Mage Routine Opinions and any good Spriest Routine?

[Perception707]

Just curious what the go to Mage routine is in pvp? Glad suite?

Also I have trialed all the Spriest routines and find them mediocre at best. Gladiator, Tuanha, Millz. What are people using in pvp?

If you have opinions on either class, would love feedback before I make a purchase. Thanks!

 

[incognitto]

Well for mage Mill's Portal when configured right is just OP. As for Spriest i dont know but am i lifetime member of tuanha and find his routines amazing and are at the same standard bobby had with shamwow back in the day(havnt tried is priest one yet). Gladiator has always has the edge when it concerns PvP and i know alot of seasoned players who are amazed by it(both botters and non-botters). So for you to make such a bold statement as "mediocre at best" brings me to one conclusion. You sir have done something wrong! Plain and simple you either didnt spend the time either researching what u needed the routines to do or you just didnt know the work involved in setting them up right. Just put some time and effort into abit of research and configerations and you'll see the difference i promise you. Also are you using 'enyo'? or bgbuddy? these are things that help in allowing us to assist you with issues for example bgbuddy is USELESS its not a CR problem. If you are using enyo then refer to previous suggestion.

 

[Perception707]

I reached 2400+ RBG playing a spriest by hand prior to WOD, so my problems with the CR's usually have to do with incorrect rotations being used or lack of off cc being used(ex. psychic horror on heals or focus). I trialed all the routines for Spriest and have monitored their respective forums for current and on-going feedback. I have worked on adjusting options where available. But they all have issues it seems acknowledged by their own devs.

I use Enyo as a base bot for the routines and I am strictly using them in arena and RBG.

Gladiator does well with the CC and options for pvp. But comes up lacking in potential DPS in RBG, doesn't use cascade on cooldown for example in large fights. In arena its the best for control and CC in fights, dps is pretty decent.
MIllz felt more geared towards simple rotation based PVE and doesn't have the options for CC that gladiator has. He has admitted this on forum posts that if you are looking for more than a dps rotation and some basic cc, his routines aren't for you.
Tuanha is a mess at the moment, he has made an all-in one routine for both healers and Spriest. Currently it is still in development, despite its release and he(tuanha) has admitted that the spriest routine is doing far from what it should be. Currently its not even running a correct rotation on target dummies.

Gladiator performed the best overall because of a good arena showing, but it's RBG use was disappointing. I am simply curious what high level arena and rbg botters are using when it comes to Spriest.

I thought I would save myself some trouble and ask about a Mage routine for pvp while I was at it.

Sorry if this wasn't enough research or knowledge of the topic on my end for you...

 

[Lipstick]

I seem to remember Gladiator Suite Spriest routine being quite awesome for RBGs, my brother used it for a long time. Only reached around 1900 cr before banwave but he was always top in damage, even outdamaging me who played boomkin druid with GS doing perfect aoe rotation (while moving). He was also using disc gear. This was some time ago though.

 

[incognitto]

Now with more information provided to us on the forums we can address the issue's for you. My self having been hwl vanilla, glad in almost each expansion since understand now what your saying. To be honest they are still just bots. They are not AI's that can think for themselves like we can and this is where they strugle. 'GOOD' pvp players will always find the bot lacking in some aspects because it requires being both proactive and reactive and for a custom routine thats alot to ask for. To allow the bots that bit more edge they have hotkeys implemented into them so you can tell the bot things its needs to do if you find it isnt doing it how you want it to be done. Both tuan and mills have these settings which give it an edge(dont know about glad) and if your looking at 2400+ the bot just isnt enough to push you any further. Remember your looking at ALOT of work for the routines and if tuan, mills and glad suit aint what your looking for your sorta shit outa luck sorry to say. They are great routines obviously not perfect and for 2400's you really need to be bloody close to perfect.