Looking to start Programing..

[jarheaded]

I've been beating around the web for some time looking to help communities like rpg,mmorpg, and fps
i want to start programing
then most people say well grab a book, or what do you want to do?

i want to know gui based programing..

then most people say whats your history like.. php,html,flash,javascript, did some server work scripted alot in the late 90's irc days

i have about 40 ebooks on c,c#,C++,D,F game mechanics, memory editing ive you tubed programing and watched Indians program for an hour and simple do this .. loosing interest faster then would be able to do some coding of my own

i dont want to learn useless information like pointers when nesox says they are useless and a book says you need them..

i dont want to make some console command driven bot or aimbot or automation with commands.

i have the tools just not guidance with such things as how to write the code to work, visual studio 2010
deflector pe explorer dev c++..

im not trying to make my own bots to replace yours or others just make things for my self.

like currently i would like to remake a cod mw2 private server hack work by changing a .exe to a .dat

i know a few things since i read the 40+ ebooks
bool true/flase
#include is to point it to librarys you make
namespace
void
main()
public
if else and while statements
\n is new line
return 0;

but thats useless without knowing how to do gui based with console based things.. like how to tell a start button to start calculating an area in wow or a login to accept or deny the characters .

ive been around a while seeing apoc and ski and lots of other talented people coding and coding and quickly releasing things that help and i have time and want to learn just at a stand still.

and dont want to waste time doing 100's of console based things when i will have to learn gui based after..

then the what language to learn question comes up.. some say c, or C#, then you get the c++ enthusiast. but im reading about D and F#, and vb or visual c./C++. and then python and pascal and others surface

they say the hardest part of programing is the idea of what you want it to do. well i know what i want. now its learn how to get there. aimbots for fps. mmorpg, object oriented control and dll injection

 

[Blink99]

you read 40+ ebooks and only got

i know a few things since i read the 40+ ebooks
bool true/flase
#include is to point it to librarys you make
namespace
void
main()
public
if else and while statements
\n is new line
return 0;

zzz. you must be touching the first chapter of every lang book you have. those syntaxes are very similar throughout all languages. c# is a good visual language. id suggest sitting down and reading Head First C# all the way through. Do all the projects it tells you.

 

[jarheaded]

okay ill try "Head First C#" and so thats telling me you favor c# or find it to be a good starting place.. also to note ive read the first 3 chapters of each to find out if its what i need because, as you get more involved it gets more complex, and i want to know im doing the right thing before getting too involved.

 

[bossland]

All about being able to code, is to learn on useless stuff and examples
Thats how i do it once i have a hour or two

 

[aricias]

I'd like to learn C# so I could code CC's, and make them do what _I_ wanted to without relaying on someone else (no offense to our CC devs here, you guys do GREAT work), I'd just like to be able to do it myself.

 

[zavis]

when i have time. i set down and write me a small program. Like a launcher or something NOT usefull.. But i learn alot of it.. and i am having fun.. i suggest start doing it,, its fun..

C# i use

 

[Sidalol]

I'd recommend starting with Java, but c# is fine also. It's different for everyone but for me, sitting reading books does absolutly nothing. Once you've done a few tutorials and know how to create a basic application and know some of the basic programming terminology, think up a simple program to work on. You'll come across absolutly loads of problems and for each one you'll have to google to find a solution. Once you start reading through solutions and use that knowledge to fix your own program, you'll understand what it is you're actually doing LOADS more than making a program by following a book line by line.

Oh, and as for being worried about going straight into GUI work, don't worry about it. Almost everything you do via console is the same as you'll do with a GUI. The only difference is instead of outputting to a console, you'll just be outputting to labels and things. Understanding how to use buttons and the like just takes a little reading about eventhandlers.

 

[Nvr87]

Saw the post and thought id leave a reply. C# is a object oriented language and not real hard to master. Started my bachelor studies software engineering 2 years ago and learned a lot of the language in easy 10 weeks. We used the Head First book but i really have 2 say its an obnoxious book, lotta chitchat around the subject wich i think makes it hard to follow. Best thing 2 do is just start. Find some tuts online and try 2 make a game (for fun remade the game bejeweled) or an easy program. First thing i ever made was a program wich loaded a movie list from a database wich i could edit with a host program. Easy way 2 keep ppl updated on new things when they often want something from ya. Very low key, easy to make but a good orientation. The hardest thing in programming is doing so with design patterns wich makes it easy to upgrade, expand etc. Download Visual Studio for free from microsoft (microsoft? free? yeah free!) and start making a windows forms project. Keep the book though (Head First) as a guideline for learningorder.

Some tips(usefull or not, decide for urself, i dont think imma pro-programmer either):

- Keep classes as dynamic and standalone as can be, not only for just 1 program
- Make comments on top of each method, easy for urself and others
- Dont make huge methods doing lotta stuff, seperate and name logically
- After u get the feel of the language, start checking the 5-layer model, its an easy design pattern and puts some more sense in ur program
- Make standards for naming. Most general standard is public variables etc start with capital, privates dont.

If you dont know what i mean right away, dont bash ur head ull find out later. There is more 2 tell and maybe some others can expand on this but im on work atm so think ill leave it with this

Goodluck and hope its a even for the slightest usefull!

 

[Sidalol]

Saw the post and thought id leave a reply. C# is a object oriented language and not real hard to master. Started my bachelor studies software engineering 2 years ago and learned a lot of the language in easy 10 weeks. We used the Head First book but i really have 2 say its an obnoxious book, lotta chitchat around the subject wich i think makes it hard to follow. Best thing 2 do is just start. Find some tuts online and try 2 make a game (for fun remade the game bejeweled) or an easy program. First thing i ever made was a program wich loaded a movie list from a database wich i could edit with a host program. Easy way 2 keep ppl updated on new things when they often want something from ya. Very low key, easy to make but a good orientation. The hardest thing in programming is doing so with design patterns wich makes it easy to upgrade, expand etc. Download Visual Studio for free from microsoft (microsoft? free? yeah free!) and start making a windows forms projects. Keep the book though (Head First) as a guideline for learningorder. Goodluck and hope its a bit usefull!

I'm doing a degree in software engineering aswel...do you get the same free Microsoft shit as us? Like Visual Studios, Windows 7, Windows server and a load of other shit legit for free? I love it

 

[Nvr87]

I'm doing a degree in software engineering aswel...do you get the same free Microsoft shit as us? Like Visual Studios, Windows 7, Windows server and a load of other shit legit for free? I love it

Haha yeah its awesome , we all get a msdn account with priviliges 2 download a lotta stuff. Hevent been there 2 shop for a while now, gonna do so soon XD

 

[Sidalol]

Haha yeah its awesome , we all get a msdn account with priviliges 2 download a lotta stuff. Hevent been there 2 shop for a while now, gonna do so soon XD

That's the one I'll be downloading everything before I leave uni just for the hell of it. It's the first time I've had a legit copy of windows in a long time lol.