Just ordered GB - Got the basics working but...Unusable with pauses at waypoints

[Nog]

Ok, I tried reading all the relevant stuff I could find and figured out how to get GB working.

I'm using a 58 DK I have since I reset it's professions and am trying to level up herbs from 1...

So I am using this profile to test things: http://www.thebuddyforum.com/gather...1-75/3-[-1-75-]-elwynn-forest-big-[herb].html

Figure out how to load it (took a while as not intuitive), used the Macros as defined in the Macro section for DKs here and it works and loots and all but...

...EVERY single waypoint, it pauses for about 1/4 of a second, and it looks SO silly and robotic I had to turn it off after 30 seconds.

I don't see anything in the profile (that I know of) or settings that would cause that. HB works fine for me.

I guess I'll try a different profile or record my own to see if the pauses at waypoints keep happening. :/


EDIT #1: I tried two another profile and also tried recording a short loop and playing it back.

All methods pause for 1/4 to 1/2 sec at each waypoint.

EDIT #2: I am using version 1.7.4.3 (standard version) and also get same behavior on my laptop when I moved GB onto it...

Halp Please :/

EDIT #3: Also tried Goldseller verison, same behavior :/

 

[Nog]

Ok, I tested some more things out.

It's not GB per se, as I created a level 1 Dwarf Pali and tried recording a few steps and playing it back and it works fine.

So it's either something with my DK...or...something with that zone?

I'll try moving to another zone and then trying it with the DK as well. The DK has mount (the one it comes with) and the 20% speed boost from talent.

Any insight as to what might the issue?

 

[Kickazz006]

the 1-75 was made with a 60% mount, are you using a 100% mount? probably so.

unless someone is following you, then don't worry about it.

Also, learn to use search, this has been pointed out many times.

 

[Nog]

the 1-75 was made with a 60% mount, are you using a 100% mount? probably so.

unless someone is following you, then don't worry about it.

Also, learn to use search, this has been pointed out many times.

1) I did search, but couldn't find anything related to this. Still don't. What are the keywords you searched under?

2) I don't get what you're saying about the 1-75 path. Are you saying it's part of the profile? If so, I don't see any elements in there for mount or mount speed.

3) Even if it had something to do with the profile, I also mentioned that this happens with my DK if I just record a simple path - so if mount speed has something to do with it (my level 1 test was walking), how do I fix that? Buy a slow mount?

 

[Kickazz006]

WOW Bot for PVP Leveling Gathering - Gatherbuddy & Honorbuddy Forums

i typed in:

mount start stop

and i see a bunch throughout the pages. Theres not a mount speed button. GB uses the old "point to point" system via recording. HB uses meshing. For now, if you want a non retarded profile for classic, you'll either

1) have to deal with it, as its going to change soon
2) make your own (guides on how to do it are on the forums)
3) stop being paranoid that a GM has nothing better to do than follow you around and ban you

Simple solution:
Stop watching your bot and watch tv

 

[Nog]

WOW Bot for PVP Leveling Gathering - Gatherbuddy & Honorbuddy Forums

i typed in:

mount start stop and i see a bunch throughout the pages. Theres not a mount speed button. GB uses the old "point to point" system via recording. HB uses meshing. For now, if you want a non retarded profile for classic, you'll either

1) have to deal with it, as its going to change soon
2) make your own (guides on how to do it are on the forums)
3) stop being paranoid that a GM has nothing better to do than follow you around and ban you

Simple solution:
Stop watching your bot and watch tv

I'm dumbfounded.

I think for the first time in a while, I'd need to troll my own post and say less gaming, more school.

But if you speak on behalf of the devs (from what I could understand in your text), then maybe this is a good post after all.

Others should be aware of it before buying. I don't care to have a bot pause every 2 seconds in such a painfully awful manner that it screams bot.

 

[Kickazz006]

Lol I don't speak for the devs. The noob profiles were made with slower mounts. Think of it this way...

Someone who is driving 60 mph tapes a video of the scenery. You watch it and say "its slow"
Someone who is driving 100 mph tapes a video of the scenery. You watch it and say "its faster"
Someone who is driving 120 mph (ie: speed buff) tapes a video of the scenery. You watch it and say "thats fast!"

ATM you're on the slow profile. So make your own or deal with the default. People aren't paid to make profiles, they do it as a courteousy. You pay for the bot that actually runs the profile.

Here is a simple post to make your own -->http://www.thebuddyforum.com/gatherbuddy-forum/12515-make-my-own-profile-gatherbuddy.html#post156278

Please don't expect everything to be handed to you. Some of us make profiles for ourselves and share them, but few people are concerned with "old school" gathering. As its a hassle b/c blizz puts a lot of nodes in places that get you stuck.

As far as "others should be aware of it before buying" ... there are countless video's on youtube showing gatherbuddy. There are various posts about this (you don't have to buy the bot to use the forums). And ... its not a big deal, you will generally be out of the 1-75 profile in like an hour

Now once you start farming w/ a flying mount, then it becomes a lot easier

 

[Nog]

Well, I'm done arguing. It was ~$30 American, not the end of the world.

It's like buying drugs. It's not exactly ethical, or even legal in many places. So when you do it and things don't work, you can't really complain. Same with this.

But all the same, I don't think you follow. I record my OWN profile just moving 5 steps...and it does the same thing. It has nothing to do with other peoples profiles... And it should make NO difference with what speed mount you record the profiles unless it also includes a timing element or speed element in the profile as well. And it doesn't.

And flying mounts are even faster than riding mounts so your logic makes even less sense.

It's ok to say "It's broken, don't look for logic" or "It's buggy" but trying to explain it the way you are just insults someone's intelligence. Also, if more people had my problem I should be able to find some posts on it.

And I'm still waiting for a link to even one post in your search keyword list. You threw out some keywords to search on but conveniently didn't list one similar post with one similar problem. I checked before I bought to make sure DKs were not having any issues or that GB wasn't having any real set of problems. Besides the flying straight up and looking botish, I didn't see any real issues besides the lack of integration and good fighting skills.

But having it pause for 1/2 second every 10 meters at a waypoint is unusable.

I'll try my hunter later today but it isn't why I bought GB. I don't want to get rid of his two max professions just to have mining and herbalism but might as well try...

 

[asdfowkw]

Well, I'm done arguing. It was ~$30 American, not the end of the world.

It's like buying drugs. It's not exactly ethical, or even legal in many places. So when you do it and things don't work, you can't really complain. Same with this.

But all the same, I don't think you follow. I record my OWN profile just moving 5 steps...and it does the same thing. It has nothing to do with other peoples profiles... And it should make NO difference with what speed mount you record the profiles unless it also includes a timing element or speed element in the profile as well. And it doesn't.

And flying mounts are even faster than riding mounts so your logic makes even less sense.

It's ok to say "It's broken, don't look for logic" or "It's buggy" but trying to explain it the way you are just insults someone's intelligence. Also, if more people had my problem I should be able to find some posts on it.

And I'm still waiting for a link to even one post in your search keyword list. You threw out some keywords to search on but conveniently didn't list one similar post with one similar problem. I checked before I bought to make sure DKs were not having any issues or that GB wasn't having any real set of problems. Besides the flying straight up and looking botish, I didn't see any real issues besides the lack of integration and good fighting skills.

But having it pause for 1/2 second every 10 meters at a waypoint is unusable.

I'll try my hunter later today but it isn't why I bought GB. I don't want to get rid of his two max professions just to have mining and herbalism but might as well try...

The problem isnt the bot mate the problem is that you arent using the correct profiles for your goals if the profile was recorded with a level 20 60% mount it will not run flawless on a level 40 100% mount thats it.

 

[beefcake]

I personally use HB for all my gathering and just run the profiles for herb/mine up to 275.

GB is AMAZING once you get flying and can go crazy in outlands and northrend. Litterally 275-whatever in outland in 1 night and 375-450 or whatever in northrend in 1 night.

If you are going to use GB then my suggestion would be to learn how to make your own profile at lvl 80 with your dk so that it fits your dks needs exactly.

I used to use the free profiles and still do to some extent, but after you learn to make your own profiles, you learn to make them for your play style and to look like you do running around doing whatever.

 

[Nog]

I know what you're saying. This isn't my first MMO bot, just first for WoW.

I now make all my own HB profiles after learning a few mistakes. But as I said, with my DK if I record my _own_ path and use no ones profile, I still have the pausing at waypoints. I can't stress enough that I'm not using anyones profile any longer.

I even moved over both versions of the bot to my laptop on a clean machine and tried recording 10 seconds with my DK, same behavior.

Clearly with more people now posting sayig it's the mount speed, I'll go with it but it still doesn't explain why it happens when I record my own profile out of the box. Going to keep fooling with stuff to figure it out...

 

[Kickazz006]

You haven't seen anyone else having a problem?

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/gather...g-mount-will-fly-5-sec-then-stays-second.html
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/gatherbuddy-forum/11225-gb-running-slow.html
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/gather...erbuddy-momentarily-stops-every-waypoint.html
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/gatherbuddy-forum/468-gb-navigation-system-do-i-something-wrong.html

^^ i found these in about 10 seconds, including reading them

But, I also know how to use the search function.

What did I type as my keywords?

start stop mount (as I posted in my earlier post)

Again, since most of your farming will not be on ground, it won't be a problem. If you don't want this bot, then ask for a refund and Bossland will gladly give it to you. If you want the bot, then deal with whats free or make your own. Now, unless someone is following you (which GB will let you know if you're being followed - or it used to) -- then turn it on, load a profile, click start and go do something else. Players usually won't be watching you to see if you're a bot unless you ninja their nodes (there is a ninja option)

 

[Nog]

Ok, my hunter seems to work fine so far so I'm writing it off to mount speed (recording or using profiles). I was going to go buy a regular mount or swift mount for DK to force him to be slower and see what happens but I guess since my 60 hunter was first ever WoW toon (day 1), despite the 4.0 nerfs, I'll level him to 80 and gather with him.

I'll also try forcing my DK to go buy a normal mount to see if slowing him down allows me to get him to level 70+ where he can fly and maybe it's all better. It seems he just has too much speed with the 20% or whatever on the ground.

However, I have a quesiton about the toolbar/macros set up for my hunter.

I'm using this: http://www.thebuddyforum.com/gather...1097-wow-4-0-1-hunter-macros-gatherbuddy.html

Bossland provided the following macro for key 0 but I'm a macro NOOB and my hunter is only level 60. I put everything else in the proper keys on bar 3 but my hunter mostly melees.

Is there anything else I need to do with:

/run t,p,a={1,12,23,33,52,63,82,91,101,113,122,132,141,151,162,171,182,191,2,3,13,21,}SetPreviewPrimaryTalentTree(t[1],GetActiveTalentGroup())for i=1,#t do a=tif a<9 then p=a else AddPreviewTalentPoints(p,floor(a/10),a%10)end end

...besides cut and paste it into my macro? I'm assuming it's trying to use some skills I might have at 80 but not at 60? Integration with HB will be so nice for some classes.

 

[Kickazz006]

the /run is for your talent points, you gotta click learn.

Key 0 is call pet

the /run command is there for you to use cast talents (ie: you respecced)

 

[Nog]

the /run is for your talent points, you gotta click learn.

Key 0 is call pet

the /run command is there for you to use cast talents (ie: you respecced)

Thanks for the quick reply. But still confused. Assuming I'm ok with my current BM build and don't want to relearn talents, what exactly will it be using for skills/spells? Or do I leave our the run command if I like my tree and it only calls pet and melees?

 

[Kickazz006]

if you want to manually do ur talents, by all means.

A lot of ppl buy accounts or have HB level them up ... and its a quick way to stick in talent points.

but if you actually know how to play your hunter, then go for it

 

[Nog]

if you want to manually do ur talents, by all means.

A lot of ppl buy accounts or have HB level them up ... and its a quick way to stick in talent points.

but if you actually know how to play your hunter, then go for it

Ok but basically just to understand, Bosslands Hunter macro setup which uses key 0 to start the fight basically calls the pet and that is that (if you look at the link).

The /run command is just provided for people who want to preset their talent trees, otherwise the opening move so to speak for the hunter is nothing more than calling a pet?

 

[Kickazz006]

Button 0 is cast once every 15 mins
button 9 is cast every 5 mins

6 is opener and cast... every 10 sec?
7 is cast every 6 sec
8 is cast every sec

 

[Nog]

Button 0 is cast once every 15 mins
button 9 is cast every 5 mins

6 is opener and cast... every 10 sec?
7 is cast every 6 sec
8 is cast every sec

Thanks. Helps a lot. Just went and bought a couple slower mounts for my DK. I'll see if that helps with him. Waiting on cooldown hearth back and try it.

In meantime, i'll trying out the hunter CC and see if it works with grinding him just fine. If so, I'll use my hunter to gather if my DK won't fly with the mount issues for now.

Sorry for being grumpy earlier but I really did stay up all night mixing and matching and trying to isolate variables, especially since a lot of getting this to work right is finding info hidden here and there... And if I didn't have the 30 day window before I need to pay again, I don't care if it takes me 2 weeks to figure something out...

 

[Nog]

BTW, not related to my initial issue but when it comes to creating your own gathering paths - I use GatherBuddy and it helps with the overlays once you've already found all the nodes.

But is there a tool or addon that will display all nodes for a given zone BEFORE you find them so I can use that map to record my paths?

Thanks in advance.