Items per hour ( IPH )

[krynoob]

my paragon lvl 94 barb: Total items dropped: 4999 [571.43 per hour]

mp0
150k unbuff dps
700 unbuff ar
0dph
400kgph

ive tried everything and i cant raise my iph??

 

[rgod14]

Maybe my ideas are flawed but I never use IPH as my metric. I've always used Rares picked up by Quality as my gauge. I mean that's what you're after right? Rares and legendaries (and you can't really make much of an impact on your legendary drop rate). I realize that stat is just a function of your MF but that's the number I truly care about the most.

For reference (and to really show the people that MP0 is the way to go) I have multiple 60k dps monks that at Paragon lvl 10 can pull off 80 rares picked up/hour. My PLVL 100 monks are hitting 120 and sometimes even 130 rares picked up/hour. To note, their IPH are usually around 600, sometimes in the very high 500's.

This is also why I spend the extra gold to get at least 150% MF on my new 60 bots. I regear them around PLVL 50 and then 75 if I see they are well over the cap.

Just my 2 cents on this whole IPH idea.....

 

[LargeInt]

I watched mine for a bit, and I really think mine is related to my computer stuttering.

I am considering breaking off about 300 gigs on a new partition with a custom Win 7 install just for botting. My current install is so bogged down, but will be very hard to clean up without losing things that I would like to keep.

Also I need to invest in VMWare Workstation. Player is not meant to be running multiple boxes.

 

[rgod14]

It's been all but proven that VMWare doesn't help.

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...9-9-banned-us-vmware-v-p-n-every-account.html

Granted this person botted 24/7 but unless you plan to totally segregate your bots from one another they will be linked and banned together.

 

[Oink]

sadly that does not prove shit. Its all up to the time they invest into your case, using different ips and hwids will make it harder on them and might save a few accounts, it definately helps you to fly under the radar as long as possible. i myself had only 1/10 banned, now that might be because someone way extremly lazy maybe they even spared the rest because i make them quite some money. i have no clue and unless we get someone with inside infos to talk this is a big guessing game.

 

[neosho]

rgod14 what levels do you pick to go up to 110-120 items picked per hour? im using 62 weaps 61 armor 60 jewel and 61 legendarys

 

[dragonfliesx]

~1000 items per hour on 3 ~10m geared barb mp0

 

[mginster]

IPH is NOT the main stat to look at. The bonus item rolls greatly inflate it while not really providing any benefit (because they do not benefit from stacks of valor).

The main stat to look at is ilvl63 rares / hour. Even though my 3 bots only average 600-650 IPH, I get 16-21 ilvl63 rares / hour.

I have consistently seen crap rares/hour with people botting MP1+, while they brag about IPH. Killing elite packs faster is the entire key, which you cant do with MP.

 

[mginster]

I noticed on my barb going from mp0 to mp5 gone from 600 to 950iph but less items picked per hour.. so in the end i loot less items, weird huh?

Because the extra items are mostly white. These drops DO NOT benefit from valor, therefore MP is useless as many have stated before.

 

[dragonfliesx]

pretty sure iph is more important than rares/hour

iph tells you how fast you're going as it's directly related to how fast you're killing/how fast you're moving through the map (ignoring bonus items from mp)
and if you read up on mf, it increases chances of getting higher quality items. so you should try to get higher iph

yes killing more elites do drop more rares but if we all run the same profile that fact doesn't matter

also at 1k iph i also get about 25 i63 rares per hour
but that doesn't mean jack shit when a3 items all get a chance to get i63 rolls

 

[mginster]

pretty sure iph is more important than rares/hour

iph tells you how fast you're going as it's directly related to how fast you're killing/how fast you're moving through the map (ignoring bonus items from mp)
and if you read up on mf, it increases chances of getting higher quality items. so you should try to get higher iph

yes killing more elites do drop more rares but if we all run the same profile that fact doesn't matter

also at 1k iph i also get about 25 i63 rares per hour
but that doesn't mean jack shit when a3 items all get a chance to get i63 rolls

How many whites do you list on the AH? Therefore rares / hour is the one stat to look at.

 

[dragonfliesx]

how does your argument make any sense when you just throw out an arbitrary, redundant question?

just looking at rares/hour is false because its based off your mf. also just looking at "i63 items" is even more wrong because thats solely based on the mlvl if you're ignoring the chances for i60 to roll i63 stats
what we care about "efficiency" which is directly related to your iph. higher iph = more-better items (assuming mp0 and same profiles)

 

[Lcyorr]

higher iph = more-better items (assuming mp0 and same profiles)

I used to get 1100 iph but only 80 rares per hour, swapped my gear around and get 800 iph but 120 rares per hour.

 

[mginster]

It was a sarcastic question proving IPH is useless because the people who post high IPH is because they are on higher MP levels. Therefore most of those added items are white.

Higher IPH does = better items IF you assume MP0, which we cannot do, because obviously people bot above MP0.

My entire argument is on the basis that people go nuts over 1k+ IPH, yet that is with MP3+...meaning most of those items are useless whites, which is why it is better to go off of rares.

 

[dragonfliesx]

swapping your gear might of changed your mf
also you never told us how long your profile was ran for
also you might of changed your profile

what you just said has no other background information so throwing that out means nothing

 

[dragonfliesx]

It was a sarcastic question proving IPH is useless because the people who post high IPH is because they are on higher MP levels. Therefore most of those added items are white.

Higher IPH does = better items IF you assume MP0, which we cannot do, because obviously people bot above MP0.

My entire argument is on the basis that people go nuts over 1k+ IPH, yet that is with MP3+...meaning most of those items are useless whites, which is why it is better to go off of rares.

more people bot mp0
but having higher mp -mp3 means you get 25% more items which all have the chance to roll into a higher quality item

 

[mginster]

but having higher mp -mp3 means you get 25% more items which all have the chance to roll into a higher quality item

That is not entirely true. If you get bonus items from a blue pack, they DO NOT roll based on valor stacks and cannot be guaranteed yellow based on valor stacks either. This is why most of these added items are white, and why peoples rares/hour typically do not increase over MP0.

 

[dragonfliesx]

That is not entirely true. If you get bonus items from a blue pack, they DO NOT roll based on valor stacks and cannot be guaranteed yellow based on valor stacks either. This is why most of these added items are white, and why peoples rares/hour typically do not increase over MP0.

my statement is 100% accurate. i never said anything about elites having to drop another rare because of the extra item drop

mp3
getting 25% more drops = increases your total "rares per hour" for example, by 25%

 

[neosho]

Higher MP on my barbarian was like +300 IPH from 600 to 900 (mp0 to mp5) but got -30 items picked per hour... so in the end.. less loot -.-

 

[dragonfliesx]

Higher MP on my barbarian was like +300 IPH from 600 to 900 (mp0 to mp5) but got -30 items picked per hour... so in the end.. less loot -.-

rng
run the bot for at least 24 hours on both mp0 and mp5 and report back in 2 days