Item Swap - future

[tesslerc]

Well as it seems the DB team have deleted my thread without giving me or anyone else any heads up.

Though they did talk to rrrix (kinda funny but ok).
Seems due to this being an "exploit" (more like smart use of game mechanics that are out since march 2012 and everyone uses them), it is not allowed on these forums.

For this reason latest Trinity dev branch ( https://www.assembla.com/code/unifiedtrinity/git/commits/DeveloperOnly ) says this: rrrix1 [20c4382dc1] Removed all WeaponSwap related code

What this means.. from now on i won't be supporting the public version AT ALL, the private one for donators will continue to be updated until patch 1.0.7 hits and this whole deal will be fixed.

 

[ianonyk]

I don't get it? This is the botting forum, DB team. We don't give a shit about exploit. tesslerc, thanks for the awesome work.

 

[Gniller]

Well thats weird, i've got to admit your code was one of my reason for my current leveling bot to be a monk.

Perhaps they found Blizzard banning for weapon swapping above average or something like that, as exploits are against TOS aswell.

Even so, weird that you haven't haven't got any intel on this whatsoever. As main provider of this trinity feature.

 

[tesslerc]

Well thats weird, i've got to admit your code was one of my reason for my current leveling bot to be a monk.

Perhaps they found Blizzard banning for weapon swapping above average or something like that, as exploits are against TOS aswell.

Even so, weird that you haven't haven't got any intel on this whatsoever. As main provider of this trinity feature.

Nah, legit players use this Swap technique since it has been found (around march), just no one made a proper plugin for it until lately.
No one has been banned for weapon swapping, as i have 5 bots running 24/7 swapping and some are even before the big ban wave..

 

[bambam922]

Bossland looked through the forum just the other day and noticed your addition to Trinity.
He told us in our Mod Chat that the thread needed to be moderated because "exploit usage is not tolerated."
Truthfully, this has always been the case and I'd like to refer you to the forum rules.
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/buddy-bots/announcements/45-gatherbuddy-honorbuddy-forum-rules-guidelines.html

I was the first to let rrrix know about it, since he is the head dev of the plugin that utilizes the function.

Yes, it is true that the mod team let it slide.
However, Bossland's word is law around here and in the future, there will not be any exploit usage.

 

[tesslerc]

bambam922 i'm not pissed that it's not allowed, that is something I accept in the end.
I'm pissed you guys say NOTHING, I need to find out about this decision by a 3rd party, this is a disgusting way to treat your customers and more than that, someone who contributed his hard work for free.

So the minimum anyone would ask for is a heads up and a normal message about it, before he enters the forum and can't understand where the hell the threads disappeared.


- Btw i don't recall you guys ever doing anything when Kane49 released his sakaroth plugin that got 99% of the community banned, but the Weapon Swap that is used by legit players for months.... this isn't allowed... :|

 

[bambam922]

bambam922 i'm not pissed that it's not allowed, that is something I accept in the end.
I'm pissed you guys say NOTHING, I need to find out about this decision by a 3rd party, this is a disgusting way to treat your customers and more than that, someone who contributed his hard work for free.

So the minimum anyone would ask for is a heads up and a normal message about it, before he enters the forum and can't understand where the hell the threads disappeared.


- Btw i don't recall you guys ever doing anything when Kane49 released his sakaroth plugin that got 99% of the community banned, but the Weapon Swap that is used by legit players for months.... this isn't allowed... :|

Unfortunately, I was not on the buddy staff during the early months of Demonbuddy. Therefore, I cannot comment on the legality of that plugin and the action taken against it.
Though if I remember correctly, exploits were not used in that plugin. Everything was optimized to get the fastest run possible.
I know a lot of the community does not want to take blame for getting banned.
The thing is, during that time EVERYONE was doing sakaroth runs. But to hell with my own actions, it must be DB that got me banned, right?

Getting back on the subject at hand.
I was not the mod who took action against your thread. I don't go back on the other staffs' work and I assume that the correct steps are taken.
Sorry that you were not contacted about it. I asked rrrix if he heard about the decision many hours after it happened and I referred him to Hawker for a clearer explanation of what happened.

We still have your post if you need any information from it, but I doubt that you would need to.

 

[tesslerc]

Unfortunately, I was not on the buddy staff during the early months of Demonbuddy. Therefore, I cannot comment on the legality of that plugin and the action taken against it.
Though if I remember correctly, exploits were not used in that plugin. Everything was optimized to get the fastest run possible.
I know a lot of the community does not want to take blame for getting banned.
The thing is, during that time EVERYONE was doing sakaroth runs. But to hell with my own actions, it must be DB that got me banned, right?

Well.. let's compare doing pinpoint movement to the exact same coordinate for runs that take 12-18s.

And... everyone uses Item Swap "exploit", more legit players use it than botters.

 

[Oink]

oh come on, im running these on my bots without any issue (and know farms that do this too since months without any bans happening) and ill be banned for 24/7 botting long before any bans because of exploitation will come rolling in. you guys might want to fix your own stuff theres so many people reporting to get banned after a few days of usage, stuff like swapping should be the least of your worries ...

please make at least sure that the swapping trinity will be working till the patch hits, if i have to regear all of my bots because of this id be really pissed.

 

[devious21]

I have never used weapon swapping, and I don't plan on it. I'm simply looking at this issue from the outside.
Hold on a second here... we can't use weapon swapping because it is an exploit?
I don't even see how it's an exploit, it seems more like a use of in game mechanics to me.
is this some kind of hilariously fail joke?
Demonbuddy is a BOT - you can't get much of a bigger "exploitation of the game" than having a program play it for you.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that you have policies and you need to follow them, but simply ramboing in and deleting threads without even so much as notifying the author is terrible business practice.
Try be a bit more professional about it next time.

 

[miniknife]

Item Swap version 1.2.3 - inna set don't save. if only one monster don't swap item, help me please.

 

[bambam922]

Closed as nothing more can be added to the thread.