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Is water cooling system effective?

Which cooling systems would you choose?

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Simmo said:
You use 3 in one computer? O.o

I've actually saw people mod the h80's onto GPUs and stuff before, quite stupid really considering you can buy a full watercooling loop including the GPU for the same price as 3 h80's
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Diktat said:
H100's aren't 'real' water cooling loops =P
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How so? They have all the same shit as a watercooling loop, the only thing you can't do is put your own coolant in.
 
xamax said:
haha i've seen this too. Not sure I'd want to mess with that.

As far as leaks are concerned I really wouldn't worry about it. I carry my rig around all the time and I've never come close to leaking. Its a weird looking setup too.

As you can see from the photo, I need to fill up the tank!
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You win the award..weirdest case I've seen! And I've seen people dip their motherboards in fish tanks full of baby oil!
 
Any cheap ass (=less than 150€ atleast) water cooler can be beaten by air cooling.

If you want proper water cooling then it aint gonna be cheap.
And cheap water cooling is just a huge waste of money.
 
If u want a secure and great water cooling u would need more then 500 eur to make a good one, and that's just good, if u one go great the number increases. Like said before any water cooling system for ~150eur will be wiped out by a good airflow system with maybe one or two big 220+ fans blowing the air from one side and the other one pushing it out. What my friend did is he made a great case even batter and only using fans and still keeping his temp at a very low ~25?C-30?C at a full load at summer times and its close to 40?C atm outside in the afternoon, gpu come a bit higher on around 40?C-50?C when he really wants to push it.
And all this was for like 80 euros as he is still waiting for the cpu cooler to arrive, but dunno if he will do it over the summer as the computer is mostly turned off.

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Love the memory fans with the blue neon but Woah whats with the stock intel fan?
 
Are you having cooling issues stopping you from reaching the next step of your overclock and your already using top of the range coolers? Then get water cooling. Otherwise, you'd be wasting money on something you don't need.

If you didn't overclock at all, you should just stick to your stock cooler, if you're thinking about overclocking, get one of the Noctua coolers, or the Silver Arrow with dual fan config - they are the best coolers on the market atm. Just make sure they will fit on your motherboard, as they are a lot bigger than most other coolers.

I'm running my i7 920 (2.67GHz) at 3.8 GHz atm on a Noctua C14 cooler (the D14 is better but won't fit in my case), and I'm only hitting temps of 70 degrees at 100% load. So I can easily take it to 4GHz as well, at least for the winter, but I want to stick to current config cause temps will rise in summer anyway.

So to answer your question, unless you're already using Noctua / Silver Arrow and are hitting high temps with your overclock, there's no point getting water cooling. Get a decent air cooler and you'll be alright.
 
When you want water cooling you need to pay arround 500? how cheaper you go how dangerous it is
 
madcow344 said:
When you want water cooling you need to pay arround 500€ how cheaper you go how dangerous it is
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Is not expensive in singapore just that I only affraid of the leackage........however it quiet than fan cooled
 
stormwarr1 said:
Are you having cooling issues stopping you from reaching the next step of your overclock and your already using top of the range coolers? Then get water cooling. Otherwise, you'd be wasting money on something you don't need.

If you didn't overclock at all, you should just stick to your stock cooler, if you're thinking about overclocking, get one of the Noctua coolers, or the Silver Arrow with dual fan config - they are the best coolers on the market atm. Just make sure they will fit on your motherboard, as they are a lot bigger than most other coolers.

I'm running my i7 920 (2.67GHz) at 3.8 GHz atm on a Noctua C14 cooler (the D14 is better but won't fit in my case), and I'm only hitting temps of 70 degrees at 100% load. So I can easily take it to 4GHz as well, at least for the winter, but I want to stick to current config cause temps will rise in summer anyway.

So to answer your question, unless you're already using Noctua / Silver Arrow and are hitting high temps with your overclock, there's no point getting water cooling. Get a decent air cooler and you'll be alright.
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I am also at 70 Degrees that why i thinking of better cooling systems ....as i had a previous computer with stock had it on 24hrs for 3 moths n died over heated lol
 
I used to use a $650 dollar open water cooling system with a GPU block and all. It cooled fine, but man having to add distilled water to it every other week was a real nuisance. And so I switched to air cooling 2 systems ago with a really high end air cooler the Prolimatech Megahalem.

My new system is running a Core i7 960x over clocked at 5.2ghz. When I built this system with the intention of overclocking it I went through a few cooling solutions. I tried my old trusty Prolimatech Megahalem air cooling which worked great on my old cpu. It was able to get me to around 4.8ghz OC while keeping temps at around 50c idle 80c full load (hotter than I wanted to be but within tolerance limits). So I pulled my old water cooling setup out of the closet and tried it out. It cooled great, pumped the OC up to 5.2ghz and got temps of 30c idle 50c full load but I was back to the annoyance of having to constantly monitor the water level and put water in it, and the pump was rather annoying, not loud but a constant low background hum which I just found nerve racking when it was quiet in the room.

So I decided to give the h100 a try since it was a closed system and should not need the extra maintenance of constantly watching the water levels. It is the best solution I've found imo. With the cpu at 5.2 ghz it only went up slightly in temps from my $650 dollar open water cooling system. 34c idle 56c full load. For a 2ghz overclock I'm perfectly happy with those temps. The pump can't be heard outside of the case, and the fans on the radiator are only barely heard a few feet away when they spin up to 4500 RPM when the cpu temp raises under load. On a normal day to day usage basis the temps sit around 42c and the fans are running at around 2800 RPM which can't be heard more than a foot away from the case.
 
Simmo said:
How so? They have all the same shit as a watercooling loop, the only thing you can't do is put your own coolant in.
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They are not near as efficient, from what i've read they barely top a good Hs/fan.
 
I use a push and pull setup with my Corsair H60 on my Ivy Bridge 3570K.

Idles at under 30 degrees celsius
 
Zesus said:
Is not expensive in singapore just that I only affraid of the leackage........however it quiet than fan cooled
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Your ambient temperature is probably between 35 to 40 degrees Celsius since it's eternal summer there.

Zesus said:
I am also at 70 Degrees that why i thinking of better cooling systems ....as i had a previous computer with stock had it on 24hrs for 3 moths n died over heated lol
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Newer i5 and i7 chips have a Tcase < 68 degrees celsius.
Older Core2Duo can go up to 80 degrees celsius.
 
tonari said:
If u want a secure and great water cooling u would need more then 500 eur to make a good one, and that's just good, if u one go great the number increases. Like said before any water cooling system for ~150eur will be wiped out by a good airflow system with maybe one or two big 220+ fans blowing the air from one side and the other one pushing it out. What my friend did is he made a great case even batter and only using fans and still keeping his temp at a very low ~25?C-30?C at a full load at summer times and its close to 40?C atm outside in the afternoon, gpu come a bit higher on around 40?C-50?C when he really wants to push it.
And all this was for like 80 euros as he is still waiting for the cpu cooler to arrive, but dunno if he will do it over the summer as the computer is mostly turned off.

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I bet that thing sounds like a wind tunnel.
 
i7's max temp is 100C, but you want it to be around 80C max when priming at 100% load.

And yeah, the megahalem is alright, Noctua coolers are better though.
 
Here is your answer. Ignore everyone else :)

My main machine has a red/black component theme + high end water cooling loop that I spent 1200 dollars on. Custom sleeved cables, black tubing, matte black bit power fittings etc etc. However, that is honestly what you pay for when it comes to water cooling. The looks! The only time that water cooling is very effective is when you are overclocking your CPU to high clock rates. I would recommend water cooling for people who want to push their i7's or i5's to 4.5 + ghz. Anything lower than 4.5 I would recommend a high end air cooling solution because those chips overclock very well, especially Sandy Bridge.

To give you a better idea, I built a computer specifically for running 10x Diablo III clients + bots. I am doing this successfully 24/7 using a 25.99$ air cooler while my CPU temperatures stay under 68 degrees when on load (while 10 bots are active) which is just fine. Idle temperatures I get 35-41 degrees. I am using a X58 setup with a i7 950 D0 chip. If you really want to do water cooling then get an H60 - H100 whichever one you think is best but they will all do more than fine for what you need. Don't waste your money on a water cooling loop if you don't plan on heavily overclocking, really . . . don't. Get a good air cooler and you will be more then happy when you see the results. I regret buying such an expensive water cooling setup, it's just simply not needed for 90% of people.

My advice, go air and save the money. Or spend it on more ram if needed. I use 12GB of DDR3 ram and it's more then plenty. I can't even use it all considering my CPU load is hitting 90-96% when running 10 bots.
 
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Gentoo said:
They are not near as efficient, from what i've read they barely top a good Hs/fan.
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This. Tried both the H-100 and the NH-D14 on my secondary rig, couldn't be bothered to go through all the watercooling problems on a comp i barely use myself. Good air flow > bad watercooling all in one solutions.

Water cooling is better, as long as you drop 500e into it.
 
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