Interesting post on WoW forums

[phatmanny]

I jus came across this on the forums and I thought I should share it here. It have no revelence to botting in general but a blue response may have some useful information. The below paragraph is a copy/paste from the blue.

"So what we've done is developed a hidden system that tracks player behavior in matchmade groups on a number of different levels. We don't go into a lot of details about the system for a few reasons: A) we've been constantly evolving how intelligent the system is, B) the system is dynamic so that it can apply penalties based on varying factors -- it's analyzing trends as they change over time and accounting for them in some fashion -- and C) we don't want players to know exactly how the system starts penalizing people for less-than-average behavior and then try to game it."


Source Blizzard says it's ok to be a jerk - Forums - World of Warcraft

 

[Mario27]

it doesend matther what blue post say they cant do anything about honorbuddy and its all fine you dont have to be worryed about blue post from blizzard im botting on 5 accounts quest botting to make gold and im stil fine.

 

[Razer1993]

I'm a bit worried, at one point, a blue replied with this.

Is what that player did cool? Absolutely not. It's a crappy thing to do to a group and it's happened to me.

So what we've done is developed a hidden system that tracks player behavior in matchmade groups on a number of different levels. We don't go into a lot of details about the system for a few reasons: A) we've been constantly evolving how intelligent the system is, B) the system is dynamic so that it can apply penalties based on varying factors -- it's analyzing trends as they change over time and accounting for them in some fashion -- and C) we don't want players to know exactly how the system starts penalizing people for less-than-average behavior and then try to game it.

Suffice it to say, the things you do in a matchmade group matter. If you're above the average in kicking players out of groups, being kicked from groups, or ducking out early (as described in the OP), deserter debuffs, kicking thresholds, and the like become increasingly less forgiving.

As for handing out suspensions or blocking people from matchmaking content for any lengths of time, that's a very different discussion. But the policies and procedures we have in place are considered with extreme care. We want to create the best and most fair environment possible in World of Warcraft, so friends and strangers alike can have a good time. And, as mentioned above, we try to put checks and balances into our game systems to ensure bad behavior isn't rewarded, and becomes very inconvenient for the instigator.


surely if they can track that.... they can track us a lot more than we think? surely if they can track if a person keep causing a wipe then leaves, then they can track us botting on a much better scale than we would think?

 

[buzzerbeater]

Not really.

Or let's say it that way: what do you think, what "we" think of how much they can track us?

When we even honor them with lcp detection, which is in some way the climax method of detection systems.

 

[phatmanny]

My intentions wasn't to scare anyone or have them worried, I just started botting since MoP came out just for lol since I lost my main during sn0wball ban last year. To me this is pretty much sums up too rule #1 of botting.

Since using HB now I have 11 90's on my main, I should listen to my own advice. I will continue botting on my other accounts and see how far I can go.

I wanted to point it out to the community and see what your thoughts are since blizz is keeping statistcs on our account, overall im no security expert but if they say they can track that, then its not a possibility of how but when.

 

[Mario27]

My intentions wasn't to scare anyone or have them worried, I just started botting since MoP came out just for lol since I lost my main during sn0wball ban last year. To me this is pretty much sums up too rule #1 of botting.

Since using HB now I have 11 90's on my main, I should listen to my own advice. I will continue botting on my other accounts and see how far I can go.

I wanted to point it out to the community and see what your thoughts are since blizz is keeping statistcs on our account, overall im no security expert but if they say they can track that, then its not a possibility of how but when.

you didnt scare me mate i bot in this game for 8 years

 

[frosticus]

interesting? check out the things we know they track in the statistics page.

gold earned per day + boss kills + whatever else they want to factor in.

but nothing is concrete, no one really knows how it works. i would even bet blizz has separated workload on the project so none of the developers know the complete system.

 

[Razer1993]

I'm not scared worried, just, its brought it to my attention.

I mean, im sure devs and coders would have realized that along time ago before me, just makes me realize, blizz are maybe smarter than they act.

 

[krycus21]

Well, That explains alot... Is this why Every BG and LFR I go in sucks butts. lol
"So what we've done is developed a hidden system that tracks player behavior in matchmade groups on a number of different levels. We don't go into a lot of details about the system for a few reasons: A) we've been constantly evolving how intelligent the system is, B) the system is dynamic so that it can apply penalties based on varying factors -- it's analyzing trends as they change over time and accounting for them in some fashion -- and C) we don't want players to know exactly how the system starts penalizing people for less-than-average behavior and then try to game it.

 

[Cocaine]

Blizzard makes the gayest systems on the planet.