[PAID] #Hunter

[pheelgood]

I don't think so.. there is a hot key for switching between AOE and single.

 

[donger12]

I don't think so.. there is a hot key for switching between AOE and single.

Yea I was turning it off, still trapping and still barrageing

 

[tolraucion]

Yea I was turning it off, still trapping and still barrageing

It should be trapping on single target for survival and as far as I know that's the only spec it does it on.

When you toggle off AoE it doesn't disable AoE spells, it prioritizes single target damage. So if Barrage is a damage increase for you in single target, then it should be casting that spell. Contrary to popular belief, casting Barrage on single target will only result in a less than a .9% damage loss for Survival. This number also gets lower if you have low mastery, to the point where it is quite possible that Barrage is a damage increase for your character when used on single target. For the other specs casting Barrage on single target is a damage increase regardless of stats. If you're seeing bad numbers this is not the reason.

The multishot issue is a problem and I have a fix for that already in testing.

As for fixing any other issues, you have given me little to no information. Are you alliance / horde? Where were you testing? Was it doing that on bosses or the dummies? What's the tooltip say for Barrage and Arcane Shot damage for your character?

 

[Day7]

I've not used this yet or anything but ..

I much much much prefer to use barrage manually, just because of the terrible shit that spell can do if it decides it wants to hit an add wayyyyy over on the other side of the area, and pull it (its range is sort of broke, essentially, and can cause terrible, terrible pulls/wipes)

 

[tolraucion]

I've not used this yet or anything but ..

I much much much prefer to use barrage manually, just because of the terrible shit that spell can do if it decides it wants to hit an add wayyyyy over on the other side of the area, and pull it (its range is sort of broke, essentially, and can cause terrible, terrible pulls/wipes)

Makes sense, I'll make a toggle for it to support this option.

 

[Day7]

Awesome

I love your dk routine (and am even leveling an unholy for explicit use with it lol)
and since my actual main is/was my hunter, I'll most assuredly be buying this when I get a few more dollars

I have to say you and Pasterke are probably some of my favourites on this site lol

 

[donger12]

Let's get a black arrow on focus only, for times were switching targets to mobs that may die with 6-10 seconds left on it, this was we can tab targets at will but never waste damage

 

[tolraucion]

Let's get a black arrow on focus only, for times were switching targets to mobs that may die with 6-10 seconds left on it, this was we can tab targets at will but never waste damage

I probably won't do it with a focus target, but this is something I have on my feature log. So it'll keep black arrow up on the boss (if there is one) so that adds don't die too fast.

 

[casanova]

Works pretty well as MM too!! Manual cast rapid fire would rock ;D Happy with the purchase otherwise!

 

[raditzdbz]

Hello tolraucion. Congratz for the work, very good routine. Im testing your 2 days trial and i want to buy it. But i need to know, its any chance to you put the skill Barrage in "AoE Toggle" settings? Because im having problems in certains pools with that skill free in single target rotation. Thanks for your attention.

edit: Or just, like you said before (i havent seen your previous post), put a Barrage toggle in the routine.
edit2: And maybe, add Explosive Trap to the single rotation to maximize the DPS. And a Explosive Trap Toggle too, for the AoE problems.

 

[tolraucion]

Hello tolraucion. Congratz for the work, very good routine. Im testing your 2 days trial and i want to buy it. But i need to know, its any chance to you put the skill Barrage in "AoE Toggle" settings? Because im having problems in certains pools with that skill free in single target rotation. Thanks for your attention.

edit: Or just, like you said before (i havent seen your previous post), put a Barrage toggle in the routine.
edit2: And maybe, add Explosive Trap to the single rotation to maximize the DPS. And a Explosive Trap Toggle too, for the AoE problems.

The barrage thing is something I'm working on. As for Explosive Trap, based on what you're asking for I assume you're not running Survival. Explosive Trap is only a damage increase on single target for Survival.

 

[7antix]

What are people pulling with this routine compared to singular, and huntastic? thinking about buying. Numbers please.

 

[tolraucion]

What are people pulling with this routine compared to singular, and huntastic? thinking about buying. Numbers please.

Why not try it with the free trial?

 

[7antix]

Why not try it with the free trial?

I did and it pulled 2k less then free singular, but that was when it first came out, havent tried it since. And huntastic is $15 euro with no trial so I dont know how that it.

 

[Kremkro]

Why not try it with the free trial?

Survival Hunter:

- Remove explosive trap from the Single Target rotation, and add it as a toggle only.
(Reason: Hunters with their 690+ rings lose DPS. Hunters without their 690+ rings, it's a DPS increase.)

- Only automate Explosive Trap with the AOE rotation for situations with 1+ Targets.
(Reason: DPS increase for all hunters at any gear level)

- Remove Barrage from single target rotation, and add it as a toggle for those that want to use it on ST. Generally Barrage is only a DPS increase when there's 1+ mobs available.
(Reason: Using barrage on single target as Survival is a DPS loss)

Reliable Source: (https://docs.google.com/document/d/...vIDC7PeDYXVfrw_0-zvn7k/preview?sle=true&pli=1)

 

[tolraucion]

I did and it pulled 2k less then free singular, but that was when it first came out, havent tried it since. And huntastic is $15 euro with no trial so I dont know how that it.

It has gone through significant improvements, I can hit my sim (optimal dps) on all specs on nearly every fight.

I'm ilvl 635 and for me that's:
BM: 19.6k
MM: 19.0k
SV: 19.8k

Survival Hunter:

- Remove explosive trap from the Single Target rotation, and add it as a toggle only.
(Reason: Hunters with their 690+ rings lose DPS. Hunters without their 690+ rings, it's a DPS increase.)

Even in the guide you link, it says trap on single target. The routine knows when it's a damage increase based on your stats. #Hunter is not a simcraft rotation, or a defined rotation. If it's doing Explosive trap on single target, then it's a damage increase.

- Remove Barrage from single target rotation, and add it as a toggle for those that want to use it on ST. Generally Barrage is only a DPS increase when there's 1+ mobs available.
(Reason: Using barrage on single target as Survival is a DPS loss)

Barrage was "removed" from single target in 1.2.2. There isn't currently a toggle that will let you choose when to use barrage but one is in the works. With that being said, Barrage is stronger, and is used, on single target fights with very low Mastery.

Reliable Source: (https://docs.google.com/document/d/...vIDC7PeDYXVfrw_0-zvn7k/preview?sle=true&pli=1)

This is not a reliable source, it's a guide and provides nothing beyond a list of spells. There is no math to show that what is said in this guide is any good at all. Maybe the math that supports the guide exists, but the guide alone is not a reliable source.

 

[Kremkro]

It has gone through significant improvements, I can hit my sim (optimal dps) on all specs on nearly every fight.

I'm ilvl 635 and for me that's:
BM: 19.6k
MM: 19.0k
SV: 19.8k


Even in the guide you link, it says trap on single target. The routine knows when it's a damage increase based on your stats. #Hunter is not a simcraft rotation, or a defined rotation. If it's doing Explosive trap on single target, then it's a damage increase.



Barrage was "removed" from single target in 1.2.2. There isn't currently a toggle that will let you choose when to use barrage but one is in the works. With that being said, Barrage is stronger, and is used, on single target fights with very low Mastery.



This is not a reliable source, it's a guide and provides nothing beyond a list of spells. There is no math to show that what is said in this guide is any good at all. Maybe the math that supports the guide exists, but the guide alone is not a reliable source.

Top % hunter in the world my dude, hunters that are merking the meters use this guys guide.

 

[tolraucion]

Top % hunter in the world my dude, hunters that are merking the meters use this guys guide.

At no point did I say that guide doesn't produce results, I said it wasn't reliable. I have nothing to act on from that document. With that being said, #Hunter already does everything in the guide.

 

[7antix]

It has gone through significant improvements, I can hit my sim (optimal dps) on all specs on nearly every fight.

I'm ilvl 635 and for me that's:
BM: 19.6k
MM: 19.0k
SV: 19.8k


Even in the guide you link, it says trap on single target. The routine knows when it's a damage increase based on your stats. #Hunter is not a simcraft rotation, or a defined rotation. If it's doing Explosive trap on single target, then it's a damage increase.



Barrage was "removed" from single target in 1.2.2. There isn't currently a toggle that will let you choose when to use barrage but one is in the works. With that being said, Barrage is stronger, and is used, on single target fights with very low Mastery.



This is not a reliable source, it's a guide and provides nothing beyond a list of spells. There is no math to show that what is said in this guide is any good at all. Maybe the math that supports the guide exists, but the guide alone is not a reliable source.

It was only $5 so i bought it... when I use it I lag really bad. Without hb using i have 156 fps and 24ms how can I fix lagging when running HB.

 

[tolraucion]

It was only $5 so i bought it... when I use it I lag really bad. Without hb using i have 156 fps and 24ms how can I fix lagging when running HB.

Thanks for your purchase! Does HB lag for you when using other routines such as singular, or is it just #Hunter? I believe HB is having framerate issues that the devs are working on, but the game still runs over 60fps for me.