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How you are being banned from BG's and Gathering.

razer

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Hey, guys

I have noticed a lot of people getting banned from gathering or bgs,I stumbled upon a thread that says this.

Over the past week or so a ton of players have reported getting banned for botting in BG's (even on that particular bot it's forum). Most seem to be banned after using one of the so called public profiles. A profile is a certain route that a bot takes to run around in a BG. Hence why you could see certain bot trains in random bg's, people using the same profile. Apparently one can make their own profile, and it doesn't look like those 'players' got banned who kept their profile private. So it was not really the bot that got detected, but rather the bot behaviour that triggered the banwave.

By the looks of it blizzard implemented a detection tool that tracks routes that characters take in random battlegrounds, and compare those routes to other players. What happened with all the boxers getting banned, and the fact that some main toons/leaders did not get the ban, is imo that they did not have enough data yet to compare. The system detected multiple toons taking the same route while it was in fact a multiboxer, and given their sample size not being big enough, the system flagged them as botters. Now that their is plenty of data available, it looks like the false positive detections for boxers disappeared.
Had 4 friends get banned. From what I've been told by a friend inside the company GMs are actually watching players in bgs once a flag comes up that they are "botting" from their internal detection system (not player reports) and taking actions based on that since there were more false positives than just for boxers, if it is your first offense you receive a 72 hour ban and a final warning and if you have ANY strikes on your account otherwise you get perma banned.

They've also implemented a new anti-botting features for gathering as well.

Thank god.

But yes, the bans shouldn't occur as often anymore if at all simply because you are boxing in bgs. You should only be banned if a GM doesn't know much about boxing but I've been told that they have made it clear if someone isn't sure to go to their supervisor before taking action.

Now this may not be 100% correct but is dam close too see what is happening, This is one of the reasons why I say never use a public profile :)

This is coming from a multiboxing forum.
 
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Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. I could have imagined that there was a certain recognition pattern being implemented as blizzard is a multi million dollar company and can make that happen.
This could be the reason why so many people are getting banned by using the most popular and also public profiles.
 
Now with cross realm servers, for gathering a lot of people are using the same public profile and therefor can be banned from that. Just like it is in the BG's So it makes some sense of too why a lot of new comers are being banned. I would say too everyone learn too make your own profiles.
 
razer said:
Now with cross realm servers, for gathering a lot of people are using the same public profile and therefor can be banned from that. I would say too everyone learn too make your own profiles.
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Yup and especially because of CRZ a lot more legit players are also farming the same spots the bots would come accross so it can be painfully obvious to watch.
 
My brother works for blizzard, he said they have the technology to turn my pc into a microwave when i login wow.
 
biller72 said:
My brother works for blizzard, he said they have the technology to turn my pc into a microwave when i login wow.
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Guess he has a 'Employee of the Month' poster hanging in his living room ? :-)
 
So if I download that hotspotrecorder and then say go around townlong stepes mining and herbing it will basically be my own unique profile? I just recently got my first bot account permabanned for gathering, guess I will try and do that on the new accounts I'm levelling..
 
have to rephrase my answer here, cause he is probably right.

got a perma on first offense.

after 2 appeals :

Following a review of your case, I can confirm that the evidence presented was correct, and
that the subsequent action taken was appropriate. Our decision in this matter stands, and will not be overturned.

Please note, it is our policy never to reveal details regarding account investigations, beyond the
information given in the original notice mail, for privacy and security reasons.

We now consider this matter closed, and would not look to enter into further communication on the matter.

so yes, i was wrong, and edited this response. bot safe.
 
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Ive had 2 accounts banned for BG botting less than 2 hours. 1 Account was perma , my fault, used same profile for like 2 weeks. Of course it's trackable, it's very easy to see in the code which characters are using the same patterns over and over again.

You think banning costs them money, they are having a Accounts sale right now, they ban your account you just buy a new one, they will have to present their quarterly earnings soon, More bots banned, more accounts sold + more happy players during the 5.2 launch.

You think it's giving Blizzard too much credit? They are probably one of the most successful gaming companies in the world, I'm sure by now they have realised that banning your bot accounts doesn't lose them any money because you're just going to buy new ones any way, and it's all automated, all the GMs have to do is look at the logs and click ban. The only money they spend is on customer service but that easily evens itself out from accounts sales, 1 Full account + Sub easily pays for 1 CS monkey full day pay.
 
Franco is right, And if its soo bullshit why are the multiboxers getting banned on the spot they play the main toon and have the rest on follow in bgs and they get a instance ban of 3 hours, sometimes they even get 3 day ban. They have called blizzard up and asked why have they been banned

They respond with its a automative banning system. Now my friends who multibox are being banned in BG's but getting unbanned as soon as they plea for it while blizzard see's they are multiboxing and not botting. And I quote them saying " stay away from the bg's for a while till we fix the problem"

It is not hard too make a tracking system. We are building our own basic tracking system on there mesh why cant they do the same?

Everything I have wrote you have said is a load of shit, But I will stick too my guns and keep using private profiles, And not everyone who get banned in BG's or Gathering comes on the forum crying :) Let alone read the forum So a lot more people are being banned then you think.

Peace Out MR Troll
 
Multiboxers got reported in BGs even more than real botters for several reasons:
1. Casual gamers do not recognize multiboxers, and generally is not aware or even informed of its presence.
2. Multiboxers looks just like bunch of bots, following the same route and casting/attacking the same targets, the difference is, they are usually same class, similar name, same server!
3. The multiboxers annoy the majority of the player base in BGs, especially the opposite faction, and most of their "victims just acting shameless reports, reports.

So do you still its easy task for a common GM to investigate these tons of reports towards the multiboxers?
 
I never been reported :) and I multibox 10 accounts at once. Its a new system coming it mang and these guys are talking about as soon as they enter and start walking around they get a instant ban unless 10+ people report them all at the same time with in under a few minutes which is highly unlikely botters get more reports them multiboxing since there is 5 of them all standing on the same spot and doing nothing 24/7
 
Wait, even with private profiles though, isn't what they record your repeated path over and over again for gatherbuddy?
 
ok...Now if only 1 person is using that private profile he runs it lets say 4 hours a day, does about 200 loops...But with a public profile 10,000 run it for 12 hours a day that could be over 1 million loops blizzard looks BAM BITCH BAN!
 
Yeah makes perfect sense if you think about it. Also if you run your private profile you might be able to appeal and say you weren't botting but if you run the same profile as every one else there's no way they'll believe you...
 
Not to crash your theory about private profiles mate, but ive ONLY been using private profiles, on different zone and zone switch each hour and got banned on 3/6 and 1/6 was permabanned so therefore yes the public profiles theory makes sense but its not the only thing that has changed, there is something else we dont know about some kind of detection.....
 
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