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How to make HB legal

odarn

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Guns kill and people are prohibited from carrying them around openly, even in countries like the USA. But you can also buy them in almost any country, legally. Even if you are required to get a license first before they can be delivered to you. Gun makers cannot be held liable with what you do with a gun, whether is was legally purchased or not. It is not illegal to manufacture guns, nor to sell them to legal buyers.
It is illegal to copy cd's or movies which are not yours. But Anydvd makes it possible to do just that. They do not copy movies or music for you, they just make it possible.
HB goes beyond that, it not only makes it possible for its customers to circumvent Blizzard's rules (which are no laws, whatever Blizzard may want us to think), it does the same thing as its users. That is its weak point, one the lawyers on both sides will be fighting about.
So, it is seems very simple: HB should not circumvent Blizzard's rules. But how can it do that and still remain in business?
That reminds me of a commercial about bugles many years ago:" how do you make bugles? Very easy! You take a big momma, and she makes the bugles for you! "
So who is the big momma?
In another thread, "The power of user settings", I hinted at the solution. Let HB be a user-defined program where the user fills in all the necessary data to get the bot functioning. That would mean that even meshing would stop being the responsibility of HB. HB provides the infrastructure (the tool to mesh an area), but it is up to the users (and this forum) to do it.
Same with the combat bot: it is after all, just a list of conditions and general behaviors that can easily be put in a database.
So, who is the big momma? HB of course!
 
What exactly was the point of this...?
Thinking about what HB is and what it could or should be. Something we do in this forum everyday. And what is the point of your comment?
 
problem is, it would lead to even more stuff being sold. "want premium meshes? get donater-meshes here for only 30$" etc pp

its good the way it is.
 
Thinking about what HB is and what it could or should be. Something we do in this forum everyday. And what is the point of your comment?
To show you that this was completely useless and not really worth anyone's time to read :)
 
Its not a matter of making HB "legal" for blizz, if they want they can ban you for NO effing reason.
 
Wasn't Honorbuddy already a legal program and did no harm to any company, neither to Blizzard? Atleast that's what the court spoke out not long ago, right?
 
Guns kill and people are prohibited from carrying them around openly, even in countries like the USA. But you can also buy them in almost any country, legally. Even if you are required to get a license first before they can be delivered to you. Gun makers cannot be held liable with what you do with a gun, whether is was legally purchased or not. It is not illegal to manufacture guns, nor to sell them to legal buyers.
It is illegal to copy cd's or movies which are not yours. But Anydvd makes it possible to do just that. They do not copy movies or music for you, they just make it possible.
HB goes beyond that, it not only makes it possible for its customers to circumvent Blizzard's rules (which are no laws, whatever Blizzard may want us to think), it does the same thing as its users. That is its weak point, one the lawyers on both sides will be fighting about.
So, it is seems very simple: HB should not circumvent Blizzard's rules. But how can it do that and still remain in business?
That reminds me of a commercial about bugles many years ago:" how do you make bugles? Very easy! You take a big momma, and she makes the bugles for you! "
So who is the big momma?
In another thread, "The power of user settings", I hinted at the solution. Let HB be a user-defined program where the user fills in all the necessary data to get the bot functioning. That would mean that even meshing would stop being the responsibility of HB. HB provides the infrastructure (the tool to mesh an area), but it is up to the users (and this forum) to do it.
Same with the combat bot: it is after all, just a list of conditions and general behaviors that can easily be put in a database.
So, who is the big momma? HB of course!

This is a very interesting thought - thanks for sharing!

I agree with your thinking, by providing a "barebones" infrastructure for users to use could circumvent the legal issues behind this particular lawsuit between blizzard and honorbuddy.

HOWEVER, even if you went to all of the trouble of creating your own meshes and profiles etc... (very time-consuming and FAR less reliable then the current system) the point remains that you are still breaking Blizzard's EULAs and would therefore still lose your accounts (legal or not).

Until a final decision is reached in the lawsuit then I personally can't see this idea going anywere...

Just my 2c!!!

Nice thinking though!
 
@liljackjack
Yes, it would not change anything for the users, Blizzard could then still ban them. But then the title is about HB, not about making botting acceptable to Blizzard.
 
Guns kill and people are prohibited from carrying them around openly, even in countries like the USA. But you can also buy them in almost any country, legally. Even if you are required to get a license first before they can be delivered to you. Gun makers cannot be held liable with what you do with a gun, whether is was legally purchased or not. It is not illegal to manufacture guns, nor to sell them to legal buyers.
It is illegal to copy cd's or movies which are not yours. But Anydvd makes it possible to do just that. They do not copy movies or music for you, they just make it possible.
HB goes beyond that, it not only makes it possible for its customers to circumvent Blizzard's rules (which are no laws, whatever Blizzard may want us to think), it does the same thing as its users. That is its weak point, one the lawyers on both sides will be fighting about.
So, it is seems very simple: HB should not circumvent Blizzard's rules. But how can it do that and still remain in business?
That reminds me of a commercial about bugles many years ago:" how do you make bugles? Very easy! You take a big momma, and she makes the bugles for you! "
So who is the big momma?
In another thread, "The power of user settings", I hinted at the solution. Let HB be a user-defined program where the user fills in all the necessary data to get the bot functioning. That would mean that even meshing would stop being the responsibility of HB. HB provides the infrastructure (the tool to mesh an area), but it is up to the users (and this forum) to do it.
Same with the combat bot: it is after all, just a list of conditions and general behaviors that can easily be put in a database.
So, who is the big momma? HB of course!

Some bad info here.
First: Open carry in the US is perfectly legal except in designated areas. I can walk around all day long with a pistol strapped to my side. All but a few areas in the US have concealed carry with permit also.
Second: Never go full retard.
 
Ever been to Texas?

yeah it's legal in most of the country. Some require a license and others dont. Its allowed here: Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia, Virginia, Alaska, Kentucky, Utah, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Indiana, Tennessee, Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Washington, Oregon, Nevada, California, Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, Louisiana , Mississippi, Alabama, North Carolina, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maine, Delaware and New Hampshire.



Wait, what is this thread about?
 
How to make HB legal


Hadn't bothered to read that mess of no paragraphs; however, HB has never been "illegal" nor does it need to be "legalized" .... you clearly have a bad understanding of what the term Illegal/Legal defines.


Guns kill and people are prohibited from carrying them around openly,

Again, skewed thoughts. Guns do not kill, bullets do not kill, neither do butter knives, or suspenders... I guess, maybe, if either one of them became self aware and grew arms, legs and a brain themselves, then maybe your statement would be true. People kill.

Prohibited? Hmmm, the state I live in we need a separate license for concealed carry and open carry, which I have both... the only places it is prohibited to carry is within Government facilities and schools, or a business requesting no firearms on the premise.
 
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