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Hellcoms simple investment calculator

Okay, markn12, I see what your doing.

The calculation is not wrong, it's your math.

The calculation is: 2,000,000 / 462,857 which equals 4.320988987959564 hours.

There is a reason I did it this way; to tell you how many hours are lost, before you profit from the purchase.
 
grim2594 said:
Okay, markn12, I see what your doing.

The calculation is not wrong, it's your math.

The calculation is: 2,000,000 / 462,857 which equals 4.320988987959564 hours.

There is a reason I did it this way; to tell you how many hours are lost, before you profit from the purchase.
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Your math is wrong not mine :)

You're showing how long until you make the gold you spent and you're counting your entire GPH your math is misleading and extremely wrong. You do not profit from buying that item in 4 hours you only gained 12k gold per hour that means in 4 hours you made 48k more gold than you would of if you didn't buy the item how are you profiting in 4 hours that way ? You spent 2 mil and are telling people you paid the item off in 4 hours that's not right.

With your calculation you're showing

current GPH
Increase in GPH
item cost

now you're / that item cost by your entire GPH that's misleading you should be dividing it by the difference because that is when you will pay off the item you can't use your entire GPH because you're getting 90% of that without spending 2 mil.
 
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markn12 said:
Your math is wrong not mine :)

You're showing how long until you make the gold you spent and you're counting your entire GPH your math is misleading and extremely wrong. You do not profit from buying that item in 4 hours you only gained 12k gold per hour that means in 4 hours you made 48k more gold than you would of if you didn't buy the item how are you profiting in 4 hours that way ? You spent 2 mil and are telling people you paid the item off in 4 hours that's not right.
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I don't want to argue with you, but you are misunderstanding the intention of my calculations. If you want to know how long it takes to profit, over a length of time, you can use Hellcom's calculator. My version is to tell you how long it's going to take to pay for that new bonus. The calculation is not wrong, or misleading. If you are buying a new piece of gear, that means that you have used x amount of hours... you have already done the hours put in. This plugin will tell you how much, exactly, you lost.
 
grim2594 said:
I don't want to argue with you, but you are misunderstanding the intention of my calculations. If you want to know how long it takes to profit, over a length of time, you can use Hellcom's calculator. My version is to tell you how long it's going to take to pay for that new bonus. The calculation is not wrong, or misleading. If you are buying a new piece of gear, that means that you have used x amount of hours... you have already done the hours put in. This plugin will tell you how much, exactly, you lost.
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You ain't paying for the new bonus that's the point you're just showing how long until you get your gold back using your new GPH. How I understand your math you're doing new GPH / item cost so your math shows how long until you get the gold spent on the item NOT how long until you actually pay for the item itself with no help from other items. How can you count what other items make to pay back the item you bought ? I guess the point of hellcoms calculator for it was to show that paying millions for a small upgrade isn't worth it.

Also your text in the plugin says hours used to pay for itself keyword ITSELF.
 
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grim2594 said:
I don't want to argue with you, but you are misunderstanding the intention of my calculations. If you want to know how long it takes to profit, over a length of time, you can use Hellcom's calculator. My version is to tell you how long it's going to take to pay for that new bonus. The calculation is not wrong, or misleading. If you are buying a new piece of gear, that means that you have used x amount of hours... you have already done the hours put in. This plugin will tell you how much, exactly, you lost.
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Say you got 250 GF and you make 500k per hour. You find some new bracers, with the exact same stats, but 5 GF more then your old ones, for 500k. Your new GPH after the upgrade, will be 507k per hour, the increase will be 7k per hour.

Now, the first 500k, that's money you would have made anyhow, regardless of whether you bought the new bracers or not. That money is already yours.

But the 7k / hour, that's extra money. But investing in the new bracers won't actually pay off until these 7k / hour have turned in to 500k total. Which will take a total of around ~70 hours. In other words, for the next 70 hours, you would've made more money by not upgrading then you do by getting the upgrade. And another 70 hours after that, you will have made 500k extra because of that upgrade.

70 hours, that's not very long, it's 3 days of botting before you turn a profit on your new investment.

But what if the item had cost 1,5 millions?

In that case, it would've taken you 210 hours before it paid off. In other words for the next 210 hours, you would have made more by not upgrading then what you do by upgrading. That's almost 9 days of botting before the item pays off, in that case, is it worth making the upgrade? Or should you just keep your current item and maybe look for something else?

If the item costs 3 millions? Wow, then it will take between 17 and 18 days for it to pay off, that's really not worth it at all.

This, is the reason you use the calculator.
 
I believe that the intent of my calculation is simply not being understood. I can't really explain the reason, any more so that I already have.

In short, again, the point is to know how much time you have lost before you "catch up" to where you were previously.

You already have the money, the time was spent already to obtain it, you spend it... my calculation shows how long until you make the money back from that purchase, at the new rate, to get back to where you were. It's intent is not to show you how many hours it will take going off of the bonus itself, but how long until it takes until you get BACK to the amount of gold you had previously.

If I wanted to copy your calculations, Hellcom, I would have done so... but there are already tools for that; and that would be pointless.
 
Except your text is misleading it says hours used to pay for itself giving the wrong impression of what your calculator is doing.
 
Just a note, I updated the plugin to match that of the expectations that you all had about it. (What it should do.)

It should now be more clear on what the values are, and also added in the calculation to determine how long it would take to profit (paying for the item with the GPH increased amount).

Let me know if you guys have any more suggestions. :)
 
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