"HB2 Final - Will no longer be updated"

[Ilja Rogoff]

No, as a matter of fact, it's not.

As has been stated over and over, Legion is new content. Garrisons are out of date, worthless content that a very small portion of the botting community uses.

I'm sure garrisonbuddy will work just fine in HB3...Eventually. As there's more pressing things to take care of in HB3, you should expect those to be taken care of first.

You're funny, Griswold. Garrisons maybe worthless for YOU. But there are still many botters out there for whom legion is worthless content, because they're farming gold (not with garrisons but without legion). And to be honest, gold farming is one of the main reasons to bot. EOT for me.

 

[wallyworld]

Worthless content? Worthless is botting in Legion where 1000s people see and report you.

In your opinion...

Garrison botting has never been safe and the 100's of bans that were directly attributed to garrison botting in WoD kinda prove that.

It's the exact same mantra that it's always been...

If you're scared to bot, don't bot. You have noone to blame but yourself for being banned. If you think avoiding one form of botting is going to protect you, it won't.

 

[Ilja Rogoff]

In your opinion...

Garrison botting has never been safe and the 100's of bans that were directly attributed to garrison botting in WoD kinda prove that.

Using your argumentation, BGBuddy has to be abandoned at once, because ban risk is max here... do you ever think before you write??

 

[Aevitas]

Friendly reminder to keep this discussion civil, or we'll be forced to lock it.

 

[reconnect]

The pathing algorithm is not nearly as good in HB3 as it was in HB2 sadly.

 

[wallyworld]

Using your argumentation, BGBuddy has to be abandoned at once, because ban risk is max here... do you ever think before you write??

You're absolutely right. I firmly believe that BGBuddy, in it's current form, should be completely abandoned. I don't see an issue at all with what I wrote.

And you absolutely don't need a garrison to farm gold. If you are using your garrison to farm gold, other than to maybe use the AH (which could easily be done without your garrison), you are terrible at farming gold. That is a fact.

You could make more gold spending 1 hour farming Starlight Rose in Suramar than you could make in an entire day in your garrison...Every gold farmer out there knows that fact.

 

[Ilja Rogoff]

There are still many people using it for different reasons, reasons your narrow mind is not able to think of. Just because it's ridiculous for you, it doesn't have to be abandoned for others.

You're funny, Griswold. Garrisons maybe worthless for YOU. But there are still many botters out there for whom legion is worthless content, because they're farming gold (not with garrisons but without legion). And to be honest, gold farming is one of the main reasons to bot.

You're absolutely right. I firmly believe that BGBuddy, in it's current form, should be completely abandoned. I don't see an issue at all with what I wrote.

And you absolutely don't need a garrison to farm gold. If you are using your garrison to farm gold, other than to maybe use the AH (which could easily be done without your garrison), you are terrible at farming gold. That is a fact.

You could make more gold spending 1 hour farming Starlight Rose in Suramar than you could make in an entire day in your garrison...Every gold farmer out there knows that fact.

Sometimes reading and understanding could help avoiding needless posts.

 

[wallyworld]

Sometimes reading and understanding could help avoiding needless posts.

i'm sorry...what point are you trying to make by needlessly quoting yourself?'

Your entire argument is that HB2 needs to be updated for garrisons...Then you say garrisons aren't needed.

As it's been said many, many times now, there is nothing that you could do in HB2 that you can't do in HB3. Go ahead and show me all these magical botbases that function perfectly in HB2 that aren't in HB3...I sure can't think of anything besides Garrisonbuddy.

And you're completely right again...You should avoid putting pointless posts here when you've already said you are done with this discussion.

 

[zerlog1337]

Friendly reminder to keep this discussion civil, or we'll be forced to lock it.

please everyone keep it civil.

 

[frosticus]

the only legit reason given in favor of garrisonbuddy so far is 'fix it for the player farming gold who hasn't bought legion'.

i just came back to wow, havent played since january. i did get a few bans using garrisonbuddy last year and wouldnt use it now even if it was the last bot standing. i have found some enjoyment picking up some free profiles from the buddy store and testing them out. currently running through one of the 'unlock wod flying' profile packs. relaxing if nothing else.

i guess the point im making is, shit gets old, shit breaks, shit gets thrown away, new shit comes around, live with it. stay thirsty my friend.

 

[gruby]

the only legit reason given in favor of garrisonbuddy so far is 'fix it for the player farming gold who hasn't bought legion'.

Players farming gold who hasnt bought legion have better ways to farm than garrison. BUT THEY DO NOT WORK IN HB3 or work but need to be supervised or they'll get stuck in a moment. I bot with few accounts at one time - different profiles, different things. Half of the things or get stuck or do not work. HB2 is still better and until HB3 will be at least at the same level hb2 should be available.

 

[Kaffee]

Does the Honorbuddy Store continue to sell products that are not compatible with Honorbuddy 3? Or are these incompatible products removed from the Store?

No.

 

[mh66]

In your opinion...

Garrison botting has never been safe and the 100's of bans that were directly attributed to garrison botting in WoD kinda prove that.

It's the exact same mantra that it's always been...

If you're scared to bot, don't bot. You have noone to blame but yourself for being banned. If you think avoiding one form of botting is going to protect you, it won't.

The way you are talking to others is quite nasty and disrespectful. Would be great if you could focus on the subject and avoid these unnecessary personal bashing subclauses. This thread is about letting core devs know what their customers think and not about who is right/better/more disrespectful, etc.

 

[Kaffee]

the only legit reason given in favor of garrisonbuddy so far is 'fix it for the player farming gold who hasn't bought legion'.

i just came back to wow, havent played since january. i did get a few bans using garrisonbuddy last year and wouldnt use it now even if it was the last bot standing. i have found some enjoyment picking up some free profiles from the buddy store and testing them out. currently running through one of the 'unlock wod flying' profile packs. relaxing if nothing else.

i guess the point im making is, shit gets old, shit breaks, shit gets thrown away, new shit comes around, live with it. stay thirsty my friend.

Garrison is irrelevant. Gold from it has been nerfed.

 

[BotOperator]

This "discussion" is not relevant or leading anywhere. HB2 is dead. If things are broken for HB3 use the support section and report them.
Make a brief description of the problem and make sure you attach a logfile showing the issue. Things will be fixed based on priority.
Don't forget that old profiles/plugins/routines not managed by us need to be updated by the author or community. We will not fix things for this!
Btw. I was leveling a dk from 55 to 100 using the 1-110 package from the store and I had only 2 times where I needed to interact. Cannot say anything atm about 1-54 but I bet a lot of people do not use singular or other strange configurations so that HB3 is not the real problem but the problem is in front of the PC
If not you know now how to report things. DO IT. This thread here is the wrong way ^^

 

[gruby]

This "discussion" is not relevant or leading anywhere. HB2 is dead. If things are broken for HB3 use the support section and report them.
Make a brief description of the problem and make sure you attach a logfile showing the issue. Things will be fixed based on the priority.
Don't forget that old profiles/plugins/routines not managed by us need to be updated by the author or community. We will not fix things for this!
Btw. I was leveling a dk from 55 to 100 using the 1-110 package from the store and I had only 2 times where I needed to interact. Cannot say anything atm about 1-54 but I bet a lot of people do not use singular or other strange configurations so that HB3 is not the real problem but the problem is in front of the PC
If not you know now how to report things. DO IT. This thread here is the wrong way ^^

You just don't care about us - your customers. All I have to say. Thanks.

 

[BotOperator]

You just don't care about us - your customers. All I have to say. Thanks.

That's totally stupid. We gave HB2 a lot of updates while HB3 was already out but at one time we need to stop this.
We cannot develop/patch/fix two versions.
HB3 is a a way forward in regards of speed, stability and functionality. It's not done yet but it makes good progress.
This is how it will be always, also in future.
HB4 will be the same (before you ask - NO there are no plans for this now ^^).

Saying "you don't care about customers" is wrong, especially from people who joined 24.08.16 ^^
We code a bot and deliver examples like leveling packages, a core routine and so on. The rest is up to you.
If you miss a plugin or profile write it on your own.
For the stuff coming with the bot people like EchoTiger work hard every day to fix old things and add new stuff.

 

[Bier]

I´m not happy with HB3 too. The Navigation is rly bad. Getting ~30% less gph with the same profile then in hb2. Reason is, that the bot stands ~1 second still when he reaches hotspots or waypoints and then moves on.

The same profile takes 6min with hb2. With HB3 7-8min. Another Problem is, when you get in a cc chain and the bot couldn´t reach the hotspot in a certain amount of time, an error accure that he couldn´t find the way and then he doesn´t do anything more and dies.

It´s simply a lie that HB3 is faster then HB2. You have navigation lags over and over and over.

 

[JJWhite]

I gotta admit my disappointment with HB2 not being continued. All the legion profiles atm basically guarantee a ban from reports so i'm using old methods unilt the heat dies down.

 

[gruby]

HB3 is a a way forward in regards of speed, stability and functionality. It's not done yet but it makes good progress.

I hope it will be. Because for now HB3 is still far behind HB2.

I gotta admit my disappointment with HB2 not being continued. All the legion profiles atm basically guarantee a ban from reports so i'm using old methods unilt the heat dies down.

Same here. I do not want to spend 50$ on fresh legion key to get it banned within few days when I can earn same amount of gold for 8$ battlechest key.