Joker76
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Let me start off by saying that this is not a bash thread. I have been using HB and GB for a long time now and they have been very good to me. I have been able to level several 80s and farm some extra gold for things I might need to spend it on. The folks who donate their time to code free stuff for this community are awesome, as are the paid devs.
I will be providing some details here, in hopes that the devs will be able to fix some of these issues. I am not a "noob" to WoW or HB, I've been doing this for a while now. I'm no coding expert, but I even managed to write a couple small crafting plugins along the way. So ... if you want to be a wise ass and you don't have anything constructive to say, just move along and go chat in trade.
In the past I have used HB to PvP with Paladin, DK, Warrior, and Shaman. All of which worked very well, mostly because they were able to take a few hits along the way and deal some decent damage. Recently I have been leveling a Priest and a Rogue, two classes I have not played in the past. Both have been performing flawlessly using PvE grinding profiles and Instancebuddy. I decided this weekend to do some PvPing and that's when I started to run into major issues.
1. The Rogue. Level 52, Assassination spec. I figured with AB weekend I would be able to get at least 10 or so levels. After watching it for the first couple matches I can say with absolute certainty that if I let it run any longer I would have been reported. The thing is a suicide bot and nothing more. It runs to the SAME EXACT spots each time and get's annihilated. Anyone in their right mind would see this and realize it's a bot. I even saw people in chat saying "that Rogue must be a bot, he keeps charging Farm and getting killed". If you check the attached log, you will see that it died 44 times in about 30 minutes.
I tried the default CC, Shadowstrike and even some modified versions that are posted. All of them gave the same results. He would mount up at the beginning of the round, charge right into one of the bases (usually occupied by Horde) and just die. Most times he would not even target anything. Even if he did manage to target something (which was very rarely) he would stealth, sprint and maybe get off a couple abilities before getting destroyed. Now I realize some of this may be CC related but he was waiting until he got into range of ranged classes before even thinking about going into stealth. This is a huge fail.
I even tried using the Squire plugin to follow other players. But that's all it would do ... just follow around some random player. It never stealthed, hardly ever targeted anyone or used abilities. And it just looked completely weird in general. Like I was just following some random dude around the BG. I can only imagine how annoyed they must have been, watching me follow them around and do nothing.
2. The Priest. Now level 80, Disc/Shadow. Running random BGs as Disc mostly for honor points to buy some PvP gear. Using the Isis CC by Raphus. When it actually finds a group of people to heal, it works rather well. However, it normally has the same problem as the Rogue. It runs into a group of Horde over and over and over again ... and just dies. Squire worked better with the Priest, but it still has some weird issues. Sometimes it seems like the CC was not taking over as it should while Squire was active (ie. it would follow someone and just stand around like the Rogue does). Other times it would kick in and heal as expected.
As Shadow, it seems to have the same issues as the Rogue. It charges into hotspots and usually gets killed unless there happens to be some friendly players nearby (which there never is). It performs OK when it's 1v1 against another player, but that rarely happens.
There are some obvious issues with CCs, meshing and overall PvP logic. I have recommended HB to friends in the past, but as of this writing I will no longer recommend it for anything other than simple PvE grinding.
In short, I'm pissed off and tired after dicking around with this stuff all damn day. I've tried different CCs, w00t's PvP profiles, different plugins and even different versions of HB. Nothing seems to help. The bot performs very poorly for me in PvP and the only thing it has accomplished is getting me one step closer to being reported.
Again, I'm not attacking anyone or trying to bash the product. I am simply very confused because it has worked so well in the past on other classes. I really appreciate all the volunteer work that people do for this community. The free CCs, profiles and plugins are amazing. I simply wish for the paid devs to step up and fix some of these issues. It's supposed to be a PvP bot for goodness sake!
/rant
I will be providing some details here, in hopes that the devs will be able to fix some of these issues. I am not a "noob" to WoW or HB, I've been doing this for a while now. I'm no coding expert, but I even managed to write a couple small crafting plugins along the way. So ... if you want to be a wise ass and you don't have anything constructive to say, just move along and go chat in trade.
In the past I have used HB to PvP with Paladin, DK, Warrior, and Shaman. All of which worked very well, mostly because they were able to take a few hits along the way and deal some decent damage. Recently I have been leveling a Priest and a Rogue, two classes I have not played in the past. Both have been performing flawlessly using PvE grinding profiles and Instancebuddy. I decided this weekend to do some PvPing and that's when I started to run into major issues.
1. The Rogue. Level 52, Assassination spec. I figured with AB weekend I would be able to get at least 10 or so levels. After watching it for the first couple matches I can say with absolute certainty that if I let it run any longer I would have been reported. The thing is a suicide bot and nothing more. It runs to the SAME EXACT spots each time and get's annihilated. Anyone in their right mind would see this and realize it's a bot. I even saw people in chat saying "that Rogue must be a bot, he keeps charging Farm and getting killed". If you check the attached log, you will see that it died 44 times in about 30 minutes.
I tried the default CC, Shadowstrike and even some modified versions that are posted. All of them gave the same results. He would mount up at the beginning of the round, charge right into one of the bases (usually occupied by Horde) and just die. Most times he would not even target anything. Even if he did manage to target something (which was very rarely) he would stealth, sprint and maybe get off a couple abilities before getting destroyed. Now I realize some of this may be CC related but he was waiting until he got into range of ranged classes before even thinking about going into stealth. This is a huge fail.
I even tried using the Squire plugin to follow other players. But that's all it would do ... just follow around some random player. It never stealthed, hardly ever targeted anyone or used abilities. And it just looked completely weird in general. Like I was just following some random dude around the BG. I can only imagine how annoyed they must have been, watching me follow them around and do nothing.
2. The Priest. Now level 80, Disc/Shadow. Running random BGs as Disc mostly for honor points to buy some PvP gear. Using the Isis CC by Raphus. When it actually finds a group of people to heal, it works rather well. However, it normally has the same problem as the Rogue. It runs into a group of Horde over and over and over again ... and just dies. Squire worked better with the Priest, but it still has some weird issues. Sometimes it seems like the CC was not taking over as it should while Squire was active (ie. it would follow someone and just stand around like the Rogue does). Other times it would kick in and heal as expected.
As Shadow, it seems to have the same issues as the Rogue. It charges into hotspots and usually gets killed unless there happens to be some friendly players nearby (which there never is). It performs OK when it's 1v1 against another player, but that rarely happens.
There are some obvious issues with CCs, meshing and overall PvP logic. I have recommended HB to friends in the past, but as of this writing I will no longer recommend it for anything other than simple PvE grinding.
In short, I'm pissed off and tired after dicking around with this stuff all damn day. I've tried different CCs, w00t's PvP profiles, different plugins and even different versions of HB. Nothing seems to help. The bot performs very poorly for me in PvP and the only thing it has accomplished is getting me one step closer to being reported.
Again, I'm not attacking anyone or trying to bash the product. I am simply very confused because it has worked so well in the past on other classes. I really appreciate all the volunteer work that people do for this community. The free CCs, profiles and plugins are amazing. I simply wish for the paid devs to step up and fix some of these issues. It's supposed to be a PvP bot for goodness sake!
/rant