HB ARCHIVES: Processed Issues from Honorbuddy Release threads

[suuzzee]

StyxWoW.Overlay.Dispatcher.InvokeShutdown(); this fixes my fps problem as soon as I run this command my fps soots back up to 150+

 

[Daviid]

StyxWoW.Overlay.Dispatcher.InvokeShutdown();

Great fix guys!! now if you could only put an enable/disable toggle for the overlay into the settings & tools we'll all be happy!!! Great work tho at least it seems you've traced the problem.

On a side note/issue Enyo's pause key wouldn't work either in .765 but after running the above command in the console the pause key in Enyo also works again.

OK, I'm pretty sure I've found out the main cause of the FPS loss, I'm betting everyone with this issue either uses a game launcher like 'Razer Game Booster' or they tick 'Disable desktop composition' in the Compatibility tab on the wow game icon, as this disables windows aero (with aero enabled the screen is essentially drawn twice so to improve game performance on slower PC's its handy to turn aero off) and if this new overlay feature is based on anything like Nexos's overlay plugin it uses windows aero to do the overlay rendering. so having aero turned off will drastically decrease performance when there are any aero overlay calls.

I hope this helps.

 

[k4ne]

StyxWoW.Overlay.Dispatcher.InvokeShutdown();

Also worked for me (full FPS as i had before this release), thanks for the "trick" !

@Daviid: Yep Aero is disabled for me. If i activate Aero then i have no FPS issue without using the Styx command. Thanks for taking time to share this with us

 

[chinajade]

[size=+1]Confirmed work-around for FPS issues[/size]

Can you please open the developer tools, go to the console tab and enter the following line in the console:

StyxWoW.Overlay.Dispatcher.InvokeShutdown();

Then press the Run button.

Does that make any noticeable differences after focusing WoW again?

Hi, all,

This is the confirmed work-around for those having FPS issues. We've opened HB-1869 against the issue.

cheers,
chinajade


[size=-2]Ref: [post=1836081]MaiN's original post about work-around[/post][/size]

 

[chinajade]

Bot (Singular) constantly casts Slice and Dice (To the point it doesn't cast other things it should be casting) while in Assassination spec on rogue. (Slice and Dice is passive in this spec, and can't be cast, and is always active).

Hi, Wired420,

This is not an issue with Honorbuddy. Please report the issue where it belongs—to the Singular thread. You can find the link to the Singular thread in the first and second posts of this thread.

cheers,
chinajade

 

[Ilja Rogoff]

[SIZE=+1]Confirmed work-around for FPS issues[/SIZE]

Hi, all,

This is the confirmed work-around for those having FPS issues. We've opened HB-1869 against the issue.

cheers,
chinajade


[SIZE=-2]Ref: [post=1836081]MaiN's original post about work-around[/post][/SIZE]

pls delete

 

[rodarvus]

Starting with this release, I noticed HB has a second thread visible to windows task manager (breaking alt+tab behaviour).

I suspect this issue is known by developers, but please let me know if not. I'm happy to provide logs, short videos, or whatever you need.

 

[Daviid]

the 'second thread' is the game overlay added in .765

 

[ginuwine12]

[size=+1]Just an update on the "FPS drop when using Overlays" issue...[/size]

It turns out the problem is actually an operating-system configuration problem. HB-1869 ("New "Overlay" feature appears to be causing FPS problems for some users") has been resolved for the next release with the following note:

"This FPS drop is caused by users disabling Desktop Composition, either via WoW.exe properties > Compatibility> Desktop Composition or in visual settings or using one of the classic themes

Turning off Composition is a bad thing to do, and increases contention for drawing content on the desktop. This results in the FPS drops observed. This is only a problem for Windows 7 and Vista (the feature was introduced in Vista)—which allow users to fiddle with this setting. Windows 8 and 10 do not allow users to configure the setting, so no problems should be observed running on the newer OS versions.

As a defensive measure, we have turned off the overlay capabilities when Desktop Composition is disabled."​

cheers,
chinajade

oh now i know why ....i enabled my aero again and its works as you said .ty that was the issue on user side >.<

i desabled Aero in the past because i tought it well increase more performance etc so ty so much to let us know where the issue was

os win 7 64x

 

[wired420]

[SIZE=+1]Just an update on the "FPS drop when using Overlays" issue...[/SIZE]

It turns out the problem is actually an operating-system configuration problem. HB-1869 ("New "Overlay" feature appears to be causing FPS problems for some users") has been resolved for the next release with the following note:

"This FPS drop is caused by users disabling Desktop Composition, either via WoW.exe properties > Compatibility> Desktop Composition or in visual settings or using one of the classic themes

Turning off Composition is a bad thing to do, and increases contention for drawing content on the desktop. This results in the FPS drops observed. This is only a problem for Windows 7 and Vista (the feature was introduced in Vista)—which allow users to fiddle with this setting. Windows 8 and 10 do not allow users to configure the setting, so no problems should be observed running on the newer OS versions.

As a defensive measure, we have turned off the overlay capabilities when Desktop Composition is disabled."​

cheers,
chinajade

Incorrect. I'm on Windows 8 and I see a significant drop with HB running at to HB not running. HB @ stop I'm locked at the 30fps I set. HB @ Start condition, I'm running between 3 and 17fps. It also does it on a Windows 10 consumer preview laptop I have. Both devices are top end (i7 Gen 4 in Laptop, FX8130 AMD in Desktop, 16GB ram laptop, 24GB ram Desktop, 3GB nvidia m6xx series in laptop, 3GB R9 280x on desktop), and shouldn't be lagging.

Edit: I should also mention it still does it if I uncap my FPS. I'd be willing to bet there is too much stuff in a framelock in the overlay.

 

[chinajade]

Incorrect. I'm on Windows 8 and I see a significant drop with HB running at to HB not running. HB @ stop I'm locked at the 30fps I set. HB @ Start condition, I'm running between 3 and 17fps. It also does it on a Windows 10 consumer preview laptop I have. Both devices are top end (i7 Gen 4 in Laptop, FX8130 AMD in Desktop, 16GB ram laptop, 24GB ram Desktop, 3GB nvidia m6xx series in laptop, 3GB R9 280x on desktop), and shouldn't be lagging.

Edit: I should also mention it still does it if I uncap my FPS. I'd be willing to bet there is too much stuff in a framelock in the overlay.

Hi, Wired420,

The overlay is still running when Honorbuddy is stopped.

Your observations verify your particular problem is not with the Overlay, but with a Botbase, Plugin, or Combat Routine you are running. If you need help isolating the problem, you should open a new thread in the Support forum with a log that demonstrates the issue.

cheers,
chinajade

 

[MaiN]

Incorrect. I'm on Windows 8 and I see a significant drop with HB running at to HB not running. HB @ stop I'm locked at the 30fps I set. HB @ Start condition, I'm running between 3 and 17fps. It also does it on a Windows 10 consumer preview laptop I have. Both devices are top end (i7 Gen 4 in Laptop, FX8130 AMD in Desktop, 16GB ram laptop, 24GB ram Desktop, 3GB nvidia m6xx series in laptop, 3GB R9 280x on desktop), and shouldn't be lagging.

Edit: I should also mention it still does it if I uncap my FPS. I'd be willing to bet there is too much stuff in a framelock in the overlay.

No, the overlay does not interact with the game in any way. It's purely a window on top of WoW and completely passive, thus it does not use any frame locks.
As CJ said, if you are experiencing FPS drops when the bot is started, but not when stopped, it's most certainly not an overlay problem. Check plugins/bot bases/routines and post a log.

 

[wired420]

Hi, Wired420,

The overlay is still running when Honorbuddy is stopped.

Your observations verify your particular problem is not with the Overlay, but with a Botbase, Plugin, or Combat Routine you are running. If you need help isolating the problem, you should open a new thread in the Support forum with a log that demonstrates the issue.

cheers,
chinajade

I'm running Questing/Kicks Questing Profile From Store/Singular

or

Enyo/No Profile/Singular

It does it both ways. I took this screen shot while it peaked at the highest fps it hits with bot running. It dips as low as 3fps at times.



As you'll see as soon as the bot gets on a taxi the fps returns. Second it gets off it drops again. It makes even doing a LFR with the bot iffy. I die a lot from the fps drops lagging me out standing in fire.

I have NO Wow Addons loaded. There is nothing loaded that didn't come with the bot, and I've removed settings directory on multiple occasions.

With bot running my CPU usage is 12% and ram usage is almost 6GB used 24GB total (These are totals not used by the bot alone).

The bots been run from both SSD and traditional platter hard drives.

It didn't do it in 763 when I first came back from my break. 764 started it. 765 continues it.

I don' t even have any CC's or plugins in the directories with the bot except what came in the zip file.

It does it with multiple custom CC's as well. However if I play my priest by hand in raid with no bot I don't experience the lag/fps drop.

It does it on windows 8 and a FRESH windows 10 install.

Another person just chimed in from my friends list on skype with this problem. 2 x Windows 7 (With AERO/Desktop Composition on), and 2 x Windows 8.

 

[Mario27]

ye wired it happens to me to kicks profiles fps drops constantly to low its verry laggy and then when running it comes back up it also does it with natfoth profile sometimes

 

[wired420]

Hi again, Wired420, and thank you for the log.

Since you say the problem started with .764, this is again confirmation that the problem is not Overlay-related.

From examining the log, we believe your issue is one of the products being streamed from the Buddy Store. Even if the product is disabled on HBclient-side, a product can still do bad things that will impact your FPS. To see if this is in fact the case, please disable the streaming of ALL store products (except Kick's profile). This article describes how to accomplish the task:

How to disable streaming of Buddy Store products​

If this solves your problem, it is now a case of isolating which products are offending, and notifying the corresponding authors. We would appreciate your letting us know which products are the culprit so we can analyze the issue and prevent such occurances in the future.

If you still have the problem please show us a fresh log with all streaming disabled.

cheers,
chinajade


[SIZE=-2]Ref: [post=1841199]Wired420's original post w/log[/post][/SIZE]

I'm going to PM you. I don't want to call out a dev in public. There's a CC if I disable streaming for, not only does my bot load faster, my fps doesn't drop below 40.

Edit: Oh well you have PMs turned off. How do you want me to point this CC out?

Edit 2: It's not locking up for like 10 seconds when it tries to load a profile either.

Question: Why would it download something it's not even using? Seems like a waste of strain on the auth server (Which might I add hasn't disconnected me in 3 nights what ever you all or the data center did to fix it), and the store. Not to mention it causes problems like this. And I ask cause it's obviously NOT something on YOUR server causing a FPS drop on my system.

Edit 3: figured I'd come back and re screen shot it fixed. When I re-enable that CC I have issues again. But without it enabled



A much happier wired.

 

[Ruhezone]

Would be great if you call out the CR in the public - just for the other people with the same problem.
Shouting out a Dev cause of Problems with his CR doesnt need to be a bad thing, you will probably help him - just for the fact that most of the devs want to know if their CR got any problems.

 

[leviathan151]

Im having some similar issues. I run the developer console command and it clears up my lag till I enter raid combat. So I went through and disabled all the routines and started to enable them one at a time. I lag when Im in raid combat no matter what Im running. I turned down my graphic settings, killed almost all of my processes windows is running in the background and turned off all my addons. I even reformatted and re installed windows and wow. Nothing seems to help. I use to be able to run wow with my graphics turned up to ultra and the bot with no lag. View attachment 12656 2015-01-29 08.55.txtView attachment 13500 2015-01-29 09.12.txtView attachment 9908 2015-01-29 08.20.txt

 

[y2krazy]

I humbly request an update push to get Highmaul LFR in the list of things for us to do. Heroic scripts would be nice as well, but are understandably lower priority that bugs. The last HB push was a week and a half ago and while I understand that it is preferred to push once a majority of publicly listed bugs have been resolved, but I'm not sure how much longer I can go seeing that Highmaul has been scripted and not be able to use it. Much love from Texas!

Feel free to archive this post once it's been seen.

 

[whiti]

I humbly request an update push to get Highmaul LFR in the list of things for us to do. Heroic scripts would be nice as well, but are understandably lower priority that bugs. The last HB push was a week and a half ago and while I understand that it is preferred to push once a majority of publicly listed bugs have been resolved, but I'm not sure how much longer I can go seeing that Highmaul has been scripted and not be able to use it. Much love from Texas!

Feel free to archive this post once it's been seen.

use beta dude

 

[blablub]

Hi,

i noticed on my druid that he switches out of "Moonkin Form" before he mounts.
its usally not a big deal, but sometimes when he mounts for like 2-3sec its look really strange / suspicious

happens with beta (707) and live (365) + with tuanha and also stars (i believe also with singular but i am not 100% sure about that)
not sure if its matter but i am using the minor glyph: [Glyph of Stars] which changes the appirience of moonkin form