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HB ARCHIVES: Kick's Old Posts Thread--DO NOT DELETE!

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I'm on the Hyjal 80-82 profile and get this error when I start it up in WoW:

Message: [string "WoW.lua"]:1: attempt to index global 'oPgCFLIYocDY' (a nil value)
Time: 07/27/13 00:26:39
Count: 1
Stack: [string "WoW.lua"]:1: in main chunk
Locals: (*temporary) = nil
(*temporary) = nil
(*temporary) = nil
(*temporary) = "attempt to index global 'oPgCFLIYocDY' (a nil value)"

I've using that profile since the beginning in Hyjal but now when I hit start it moves to outside of the shrine of aviana and quits.

[07:26:41.658 N] [Profile Message]: Compiling Sethria's Roost Quests
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedCodeBehavior.
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.658 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.659 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.659 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.659 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.659 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.659 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.659 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedWhile.
[07:26:41.785 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedWhile.
[07:26:41.785 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.785 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.785 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.785 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.785 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.786 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.787 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedIf.
[07:26:41.788 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedCodeBehavior.
[07:26:41.793 D] Goal: Flying to Pickup Quest
[07:26:41.793 D] [FlyTo-v501(debug) @line 2011]: Flying to 'Pickup Quest': <4926.755, -2699.472, 1432.118>.
[07:26:41.794 D] Activity: Loading Tile/s
[07:26:41.794 D] Loading Kalimdor_37_22
[07:26:43.725 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedCodeBehavior.
[07:26:43.744 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedCodeBehavior.
[07:26:43.744 D] Goal: ForcedDismount-v569: "In Progress (no associated quest)"
Dismounting

[Ref: "[Fly][N - Quest] Hyjal 80-82 [Kick]($Rev: 2166 $)" @line 2012]
[07:26:43.744 D] Inserted new hook [Combat_Main @0] 55d85858-8d15-4f2e-baf8-752165f22108
[07:26:43.744 D] Inserted new hook [Combat_Only @0] 72bac915-2fc5-4220-93b4-eacbf16b32fd
[07:26:43.744 D] Inserted new hook [Death_Main @0] 94b82528-1b77-476a-862b-7d959798ac43
[07:26:43.745 D] Inserted new hook [Questbot_Main @0] e1ef17ee-bc81-4461-a71d-630923f5cd04
[07:26:43.745 D] [ForcedDismount-v569(debug)] ForcedDismount behavior complete.
[07:26:43.802 D] [QDBG] Done with forced behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedCodeBehavior.
[07:26:43.802 D] Removed hook [Combat_Main] 55d85858-8d15-4f2e-baf8-752165f22108
[07:26:43.802 D] Removed hook [Combat_Only] 72bac915-2fc5-4220-93b4-eacbf16b32fd
[07:26:43.802 D] Removed hook [Death_Main] 94b82528-1b77-476a-862b-7d959798ac43
[07:26:43.802 D] Removed hook [Questbot_Main] e1ef17ee-bc81-4461-a71d-630923f5cd04
[07:26:43.829 N] Could not find quest giver NPC with ID 47002 in database.
[07:26:43.829 D] Stop called!
[07:26:43.829 Q] Bot Stopped! Reason: Could not create current in quest bot!
[07:26:43.830 D] Behavior flags changed! All -> All
[07:26:43.830 D] Activity: Honorbuddy Stopped
 
hi, as others have said the quest behaviours folder is empty on current SVN, is anyone able to post a copy of that folder from their profile pack so those of us missing it can run this profile?

thanks, if not have to wait for an update I guess
 
Botbetterwork said:
More proof for Kick's being garbage. Except for a couple of mishaps of Cava's Profiles, that is a true afk profile. There is a Gorat issue and a Duskwing quest issue, other than that I have literally ran it from 35-64 no issue, and then running that lvl 64 hunter has done literally 3 quests in 20 hours of attempted botting in Zangarmarsh. the bot won't pull an obvious Mragresh among other quest mobs. I had to manually pull. I'm going to donate to Cava's. I highly suggest you avoid Kick's as much as possible. Cava's looks like it is going to be a true afk. I want him/her to succeed so he/she will be getting my money, so I can see a pure 1-90 questing profile, where the submitter doesn't blame it on user error. Such snobs that gag on Kick's failed ability to submit a proper profile. I have no way of building a profile, but you don't see me putting out failed profiles. why doesn't HB remove an obviously consistently flawed profile?
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You got any Problems with yourself? Be lucky you get all Profile for Free. Think about how many Hours the Devs invest from there RealLife to do this for Free for the HB Community.
Kicks Profile was 100% AFK from 1-85 in this Time! And i know this because i run 149 Toons with this Profile to 85 without interacting 1 time, if you dont know how learn to bot learn to understand HB at all.

If there are Problems with Kickz Profile post them here with Log. If ChinaJade or Kickz got time they will fix it. If you dont like dont use this Profile thats easy.

Please stop this kind of Post this gives just bad blood.
 
Logs

View attachment 5568 2013-07-25 18.26.txtView attachment 5756 2013-07-16 19.58.txtView attachment 6300 2013-07-17 06.34.txtView attachment 936 2013-07-17 17.31.txtView attachment 988 2013-07-18 02.14.txtView attachment 5800 2013-07-18 03.13.txtView attachment 6796 2013-07-18 03.58.txtView attachment 6552 2013-07-18 07.04.txtView attachment 6664 2013-07-18 07.05.txtView attachment 7136 2013-07-19 04.30.txtView attachment 752 2013-07-19 05.46.txtView attachment 6252 2013-07-19 11.27.txtView attachment 1804 2013-07-19 15.46.txtView attachment 216 2013-07-20 11.25.txtView attachment 6080 2013-07-24 12.00.txtView attachment 4884 2013-07-16 04.21.txtSo under advanced there is no way of posting because it doesn't allow larger than 1mb and the entire profile is 13MB or so. Here are some logs, though I severely doubt there will be resolvement, as it seems Kick's isn't very attentive to his profile from the various posters remarks that I have read.
 
Botbetterwork said:
View attachment 100193View attachment 100207View attachment 100206View attachment 100205View attachment 100204View attachment 100203View attachment 100202View attachment 100201View attachment 100200View attachment 100199View attachment 100198View attachment 100197View attachment 100196View attachment 100195View attachment 100194View attachment 100208So under advanced there is no way of posting because it doesn't allow larger than 1mb and the entire profile is 13MB or so. Here are some logs, though I severely doubt there will be resolvement, as it seems Kick's isn't very attentive to his profile from the various posters remarks that I have read.
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There are some real nice Tools out there for Windows. Calling "file compression".

Winzip
Winrar
IzArc

Use Google to get the official Webpages.
 
The purpose of a bot, is to be a hassle-free little to no thought process involved in botting. It is on HonorBuddy to provide a completely functional botting program/system/engine/whatever.

I don't have problems with myself, nice assumption. It is rather aggravating that so called professionals don't apologize for their mistakes. I can bot fyi, I easily use Cava's so it's directly related to Kick's not working. If I have to set certain parameters to get a profile to work, then that is a flawed system. It is like a mechanic saying, "Okay so I replaced your engine, but you still need reconnect the fuel lines and spark plugs."

In my profession, I'd lose my job if I said to my customer, "You go and buy your goods, and you must know all the regulations to abide by." That defeats the purpose of my job. And hence, it defeats the purpose of Honorobuddy, if it isn't reasonably usable by a general novice. My customer are the subject matter experts on their goods required, I must be the regulation and contracting expert. I only need to have paid the money and downloaded and insta-worked.

It bothers me for people to ask for money for a immensely flawed system.

It must be nice you get to run 149 toons 1-85 100% afk. I can't even run one character three levels straight without having to do at least 5 quests. Again, defeats the purpose of botting now does it?

A true professional would apologize. At it stands, I have posted various logs. I'm sure 'Kick' won't admit errors in his profiling. I'm a complete novice in things botting, but it seems like he took shortcuts and it shows in the movement and interface of the bot.

Cava's on the other hand is by far much closer to 100% afk. And I was able to accomplish that in 5 minutes of downloads and simply clicks here and there. Why can't Kick's be that simple?

The mark of true genius is taking something complicated, and making it easy for others to understand/use. You and your nuthugging chronies don't seem to be in touch with reality. I don't bot for profit, I simply want to level toons for pvp fun at lvl 90. So I'm not asking for much. I paid for a bot, it should work with little effort. That simple. You have a requirement, you tell me what your budget is, what you need with minimum/maximum qualities, and I'll find you your product/service with thorough market research. I would think for you botting experts, you'd be able to do the same without as much issues. I wouldn't allow myself to give faulty goods/services to my customer, why would you 'botting pro's' do differently?
 
jtbrivaldo said:
hi, as others have said the quest behaviours folder is empty on current SVN, is anyone able to post a copy of that folder from their profile pack so those of us missing it can run this profile?

thanks, if not have to wait for an update I guess
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could just zip or rar it as was suggested, then if you can't attach it to post email / dropbox or other hosting site will do the trick.

if you email me at [email protected] I can upload it once I've checked it's all working
 
Again, as a matter of opinion, I shouldn't have to compress. For example, yahoo.mail allows me to attach up to what is it 20MB? Compatibility issues of attaching files larger than 1mb. I shouldn't have to take the time to post logs. But again, my belief system only works if you believe in creator being responsible for creation.
 
Botbetterwork said:
The purpose of a bot, is to be a hassle-free little to no thought process involved in botting. It is on HonorBuddy to provide a completely functional botting program/system/engine/whatever.
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Right. But Kickz Profile is not a Bossland Product! If he stops the Profile is gone, and there are not much other Profiles out there. I think you missunderstand the Bossland Honorbuddy Product. The Bossland Company gives you a Bot Program for World of Warcraft, thats all. Normaly, all other needed things like Plugins, Combat Routine, Profiles are based on FREE Community work. If there is no one out to publish this kind of you, i think most you the HB Users dont know at all how to do this things.

So please understand and respect the work from the devs, even if they dont have time to keep the work 100% afk or 100% working.

If you can, do a Profile by yourself and you know how hard it is to handle all this stuff.

About Cava Profiles, i know im official Tester for Cava Profiles, i know his Profile is brilliant. But has nothing to do to write hater posts like you did for Kickz Profile.

All longtime Users know that normaly Kickz Profiles are high Quality. Maybe he has other things to do in Summertime, just to sit infront of the Computer to do stuff for you for Free?!
 
Im sorry, i dont understand this either.

He says the Quest Behaviors is important for the quest profile he made. But He havent included the behaviors in the download.

Thats just odd and annoying.
 
fragnot said:
Im sorry, i dont understand this either.

He says the Quest Behaviors is important for the quest profile he made. But He havent included the behaviors in the download.

Thats just odd and annoying.
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My guess is, it's because the QB's are all part of the newest HB now, so they're already included. I have no missing QB's as of yet; all is fine.
 
Hello, i have a problem, but im not sure it is because of HB or Kick's profile. While using "grind bot" etc. everything is ok, but when i select to "Questing" and then load a profile it says me: "[Compiler Error]: c:\Users\ismail\Desktop\Honorbuddy\Quest Behaviors\QuestBehaviorCore\UtilityBehaviors\UtilityBehaviors_SpankMob.cs(81,35) : error CS0117: 'Honorbuddy.QuestBehaviorCore.Query' bir 'BlacklistForPulling' tanımı i?ermiyor" and then closed the HB. Before i haven't got this message, but after yesterday's upgrade i am getting this message.
 
Hello botbetterwork, you may not be an expert in coding but your ideology is completely irrelevant! Thank you for your wasted breath, now let me tell you why you're ideology is not only completely incorrect but it also only applies to your little world of entitlement.

What we have here is a classic case of "I bought it, you make it work." Thank you for adopting such an American sense of justice, your patriotism for my country (maybe yours too) leaves me without words. Now instead what we have here is a product that works, and it works as intended. Not only does it work as intended, but it also requires the user to not be completely retarded. The user has to configure everything to their individual specifications and have the technical know-how on its use. Can we think of any other things that this style of product sale also pertains too?

Oh yeah we can, lets start with a few examples. Dear OP, if you do not know how to drink milk do you then expect the company to pour the beverage into your mouth? If you called them up and asked them how to drink, aside from getting laughed at, they would give you instructions on how to do so. If you failed to successfully drink your milk, they probably will not give you further instruction and they will not offer you a refund.

But milk you say? Sure, lets do another one. Dear OP, you are now the proud owner of a new steel milling machine. You are super excited because now you have a machine that can turn your solid chunks of metal into something cool. However you go to turn it on and you have no clue, why? Because you're probably not that type of engineer. So you call up the company, what do they do? Well some might offer a class of instruction, but that's pricey (Yes, it always costs money. Whether or not it is in the cost is the other bit.) What they will probably do is expect you to already know the ins and out of metal working, it's a specialty product for someone with a special need. They will instruct you through the procedures of turning it on, running the checks and maintenance of your new purchase but if you ask them to tell you how to draft your first mold or how to import a broken mold and make it work they will do their best not to laugh in your face. They will probably mute their mic, lean over to the next cubical, tell the story to their friend and then have a good hearty laugh about your stupidity.

So what's the point then? Well my friend, it's really simple. You are ordering a specialty product, this product comes with 100% of the tools required for botting. Notice I say tools and not materials, the profiles are not tools they are materials. You ordered the steel mill, but you forgot or didn't know (both which are your fault) that you needed the steel and the technical know-how beforehand. You're lucky that you can even get your hands on a bot that doesn't require advanced computer knowledge, if you botted back in the day it wasn't as easy as clicking the "start" button, just ask around. The old timers will tell you that the rise of total scrubs, such as yourself with no knowledge or ingenuity on how to make this program work if you don't configure it correctly, is directly related to the ease of which botting has become.


Edit: Also, regarding your statement about Cava's profiles. LOLTOLOLTHELOLOFLOLOLOL. Please kiddo, Cava's profiles are not only of a different intent but are also taking forever to develop. Not because of his own skill, he is a talent among the forums, but because of the magnitude of the project. Notice how Kick's profiles are already done, he's been doing this for a bit. Cava hasn't had a (1-90) profile worth using yet because he's still coding quests for parts of the game that most people aren't on. Kick released the first working quest profile for 85-90 when MoP was released, there was probably about a million bugs. So why did Kick release it? Because dumbshits like you were crying for the two weeks we didn't have an 85-90 quest profile that was released. (Note: I put Kick's profiles on from 1-90 and let them AFK. The bugs that occur to stop the profile are essentially software limitations between hooking into WoW and avoiding Warden.)

There has already been a thread about pay plugins and profiles and your arguments have all been refuted continuously in it.


Now, because you're just a QQing child (regardless of age, you are simply a child in the head and from your text will remain so for a very long time) you should probably scamper off and let the people who know what they're talking about partake in adult conversation. I've been using this bot for a hot minute and 100% of "errors" and "bugs" or "broken shit" that players report, if it hasn't been on Bossland's servers then it's been on the user. I can solve all of my own issues, I even solve other peoples issues, and believe me if it's not working right it is your fault.

Though I do enjoy hearing the common folk talk about computers like they're magical though, so please continue.
 
/endrant

Getting this error mate, looks like something didn't like a change to CombatUseItemOnV2-V719 as it keeps throwing unspecified attributes. This was run on the beta if that matters, I haven't tested it on the regular yet.

[14:42:54.925 D] [QDBG] Starting behavior Bots.Quest.QuestOrder.ForcedCodeBehavior.
[14:42:54.936 N] [CombatUseItemOnV2-v719(error)] PROFILE ERROR: One or more of the following attributes must be specified:
UseWhenMeHasAuraId, UseWhenMeMissingAuraId, UseWhenMobCastingSpellId, UseWhenMobHasAuraId, UseWhenMobMissingAuraId, UseWhenMobHasHealthPercent

[Ref: "[H - Quest] 12-58 K and EK [Kick] ($Rev: 2609 $)" @line 5155]
[14:42:55.387 N] [CombatUseItemOnV2-v719(error)] PROFILE ERROR: For a UseItemStrategy of UseItemOncePerTarget, ItemAppliesAuraId must be specified

[Ref: "[H - Quest] 12-58 K and EK [Kick] ($Rev: 2609 $)" @line 5155]
[14:42:55.839 N] [CombatUseItemOnV2-v719(warning) @line 5155]: Attribute 'MaxRange' is not recognized by this behavior--ignoring it.
[14:42:55.839 N] [CombatUseItemOnV2-v719(warning) @line 5155]: Attribute 'MobHpPercentLeft' is not recognized by this behavior--ignoring it.
[14:42:55.839 N] [CombatUseItemOnV2-v719(warning) @line 5155]: Attribute 'NumOfTimes' is not recognized by this behavior--ignoring it.
[14:42:55.839 N] [CombatUseItemOnV2-v719(error) @line 5155]: Stopping Honorbuddy. Please repair the profile!
[14:42:55.840 D] Stop called!
[14:42:55.840 Q] Bot Stopped! Reason: Profile has too many errors
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Log is attached, I'm just trying to start the bot when this happens.


EDIT: Update, it also happens on the regular release.

EDIT 2: I went through the code and found the spot on line 5155, not sure whats different from the last one. However I commented out the custom behavior action and manually did the quest turn ins and now it's running just fine. Maybe just one of the custom behavior lines got skipped for modifying. Hope this helps.
 

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Botbetterwork said:
Again, as a matter of opinion, I shouldn't have to compress. For example, yahoo.mail allows me to attach up to what is it 20MB? Compatibility issues of attaching files larger than 1mb. I shouldn't have to take the time to post logs. But again, my belief system only works if you believe in creator being responsible for creation.
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The profile is fine, you're having issues with behaviors and the bot, or cc's etc.

if it's a 100% genuine <profile syntax> issue - then yes, blame me and it will be fixed the same day.

Otherwise get your false 'facts' straight
 
Dark57 said:
/endrant

Getting this error mate, looks like something didn't like a change to CombatUseItemOnV2-V719 as it keeps throwing unspecified attributes. This was run on the beta if that matters, I haven't tested it on the regular yet.



Log is attached, I'm just trying to start the bot when this happens.


EDIT: Update, it also happens on the regular release.

EDIT 2: I went through the code and found the spot on line 5155, not sure whats different from the last one. However I commented out the custom behavior action and manually did the quest turn ins and now it's running just fine. Maybe just one of the custom behavior lines got skipped for modifying. Hope this helps.
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someone goofed and changed combatuseitemon to combatuseitemon V2 without changing an attribute. update and lmk what happens
 
chinajade said:
Hi, Pasterke,

You raise two issues:
  • "Isn't it better to change the order to..."
    The order is controlled by HBcore and not the profile. The order in which those particular directives show up in the profile has absolutely no bearing on how they will be executed.
    In my experience, HBcore has always gone to the vendor first, and mailbox second. Perhaps you are running a plugin that alters this behavior?
  • "I don't want my toon sells he's green and blue stuff and certainly not in Pandaria."
    The profile does not sell Blues, only Greens. So, Blues should not be a consideration for the discussion.

    Alas, I agree with you. Many of us have enchanters which we'd like to send the Green 'raw' materials. Alas, its Kick's profile pack, and he has deemed that Greens will be sold. I'm not certain of his reasoning for this, but last time I checked this was a firm decision by him.

    @Kick, would you please address the question again of "why are we selling Greens that could be disenchanted--especially for the MoP profiles?"

cheers,
chinajade
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it's the user's responsibility to change the mail/sell values at the top of the profile if they don't want the default values. The masses don't have DE'ing on their accts and that's who I have to keep the defaults for. If you have DE'ing, change the values and press save... then hit start
 
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