Have some bad news for you if you think HB is going to continue after 7.3

[Azhemoth]

 

[Smashin]

Look at it in terms of money. If blizz said no to all the cheating in all there games then how much money do you think they loose. Even tho everyone see's botting as cheating blizz also looks at it as still a profit due in part they if they stopped it and they could at a blink of a eye then they would loose millions. If you were a big company like them would you take that big of a hit? Glider shut down because they didnt have any money left to fight the fight and no desire to keep fighting against them. Plus you dont know what kind of agreement they came to he might of been able to keep a few million for himself if he packed his bags and shut down. to me i think i would of too. so stop saying the sky is falling it has been for years just wait and deal with this down time. for me im using a rotation bot and grinding shit by hand you could do the same.

 

[BestWarOCE]

There are several reasons for lack of information being given. One being the lawsuits and another being Blizzard also reading what you read.

All we can say that there is nothing blocking us. We just have to deal with some stuff that takes time.

None of the other bot providers did analyzes on the code. They just took shortcuts and ignored anything recently added. We will not be doing that.

This is what i am saying. Just because other bots WORK doesn't mean they aren't DETECTED. Just because bans haven't gone out yet, doesn't mean they aren't DETECTED. I'm telling you all current LUA injectors are currently detected, as Raphus has stated.

As i said i don't really give two shits if people buy into my post or not. I'm not going to be the fool when it all comes crashing down shortly. Its never going to be like it was, is all im telling people. You're going to have more frequent banning, having to spend more money on accounts. Anyone who casual bots, this is basically over for them.

 

[BestWarOCE]

And i don't really understand why people are elegiggling over the E-Sport thing. Just because you think its a joke, doesn't mean they aren't attempting it. They've already announced their plans to push this, and have already started their first event (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175100741) with a $100,000 prize pool.

 

[BestWarOCE]

Well you are throwing false statements to back it up with what evidence? You're claiming that you know somebody who knows about the details? Come on man, don't kid yourself.

What the staff and moderators are all asking for is patience, and a nice behavioured forum, is that too much to ask for?

I don't understand how my behaviour is anything but kind. I haven't "taken shots" at anybody, I'm literally just giving what information i have to give.

 

[BestWarOCE]

Lol so much bullshit from one post.

There are next to no public hacks for Overwatch because most providers don't want to deal with lawsuits. Nothing to do with how easy it is to hack... Everything is invite only... and yes there are legit hundreds of full aimbots for Overwatch. Many undetected for months...

Lawl @ PVE as an E-Sport...

You use the word obfuscation as if you can reverse engineered the code yourself... You have no clue what changes they made and you just like the big words. 4 other bot providers have already confirmed these changes are not targeting them. Which means either all the programmers are wrong or these changes are all for HB. Since all your are points are garbage I'll assume most everyone here will put their trust in other sources.


No clue why tony didn't close this thread with so much misinformation it astounds me.

These changes aren't targeting ANYBODY. They are targeting everything that injects into the client.
Anything that is not out of process, is no longer safe. UNLESS new methods are developed.
It's obviously quite difficult to come up with a solution, as we're a month in and still no ETA.

 

[BestWarOCE]

Just one last note, focusing on the "why are other products updated and working" reasoning people are using. Raphus already went over this a little bit in terms of detect-ability. But the reason why they have updated and HB has not is that they can't afford to not have a functioning product for this long, Whereas HB can.

 

[Goshinki]

These changes aren't targeting ANYBODY. They are targeting everything that injects into the client.
Anything that is not out of process, is no longer safe. UNLESS new methods are developed.
It's obviously quite difficult to come up with a solution, as we're a month in and still no ETA.

You are on some high quality crack... "These changes aren't targeting ANYBODY. They are targeting everything that injects into the client. " Jesus the shit you type... Blizzard has to have targets or they don't know what to patch or flag... They're not blindly fixing all injection methods because you know... that's fucking impossible. You can't fix something you don't know about; let alone fix everything.

"It's obviously quite difficult to come up with a solution, as we're a month in and still no ETA." Since all your other comments are trash I'll continue to state you don't know shit about what your talking about.

 

[Dildobaggins]

There are several reasons for lack of information being given. One being the lawsuits and another being Blizzard also reading what you read.

All we can say that there is nothing blocking us. We just have to deal with some stuff that takes time.

None of the other bot providers did analyzes on the code. They just took shortcuts and ignored anything recently added. We will not be doing that.

It sounds an empy claim i think. First how do u know none of the other bot providers don't analyze codes? İts really funny Like claimin Noah lived for 500 years and his sons ; Ham , Sam and Yafet borned...
So how u 're sure that they didin't analyze ? U work for them too ? Or ur friend's friend told him?
We all understand it may take time to do some good stuff with looking after costumers' benefits; but if u come here with emptyand funny claims like that, u should know that it causes people laughin ya with their (u know noth with their mouuth). So we all know u're in stress cuz of that job and we understand that but what u say sometimes made people trust less and less to bossland i think. So please think twice b4 postin something lşke that . Expecially days like that stressfull.

 

[BestWarOCE]

Really not sure why people think blizzard updating security and the Mythic Dungeon Invitational happening at the same time is a coincidence Kappa. Believe what you want people!

 

[insanitised]

Really not sure why people think blizzard updating security and the Mythic Dungeon Invitational happening at the same time is a coincidence Kappa. Believe what you want people!

It's almost like they do events to get some people to play their game again... and they usually do them when theres new changes. hmmmmm

 

[Tony]

It sounds an empy claim i think. First how do u know none of the other bot providers don't analyze codes? İts really funny Like claimin Noah lived for 500 years and his sons ; Ham , Sam and Yafet borned...
So how u 're sure that they didin't analyze ? U work for them too ? Or ur friend's friend told him?
We all understand it may take time to do some good stuff with looking after costumers' benefits; but if u come here with emptyand funny claims like that, u should know that it causes people laughin ya with their (u know noth with their mouuth). So we all know u're in stress cuz of that job and we understand that but what u say sometimes made people trust less and less to bossland i think. So please think twice b4 postin something lşke that . Expecially days like that stressfull.

anyone with basic knowledge of how the thing works when it comes to anti-cheat,tripwire and Blizzard wouldn't ask something like that
so better do your research next time cause yeah,its really funny

 

[fedor100]

You can bet, after the release of HB, how many days will Blizzard need to release a new patch and HB will again lie for an indefinite period ...

 

[BestWarOCE]

You can bet, after the release of HB, how many days will Blizzard need to release a new patch and HB will again lie for an indefinite period ...

They aren't lying. They haven't released an update yet because they have not found a safe way to do so yet. You think HB want to be down for this long? Its losing them money. Should be thanking them for not putting peoples accounts at risk.

It's almost like they do events to get some people to play their game again... and they usually do them when theres new changes. hmmmmm

There have been 13 years worth of updates, yet this is the first time they have drastically changed their security. It's not like they've added to all their games (they haven't) they've purposefully put it into wow because of this competition having a cash prize and not being LAN based. Only Overwatch and Starcraft were previously using this new method of security as it was explained to me.

This thread is just full of deniers. I don't even post in HB and haven't used it since the last banwave (like 8 months ago?). I've made this because i can see daily posts asking why HB isn't up and I've been sitting on this information since 7.3 was on the PTR.

Noticed none of the devs have mentioned anything I've said as being wrong? They've come in and dismantled some of the deniers arguments.. "Oh but X and Y is up and working" etc.

7.3 is blizzards attempt to completely end the use of third party software with this specific game. There are always going to be temporary ways around it. You saw what happened to the Overwatch cheat here, it was only ever safe for brief periods of time.

 

[alex7184]

First off, I'm not going to claim "i know someone from Blizzard". Nobody will believe me. Lets just say i know somebody who knows exactly whats going on here.

In 7.3 Blizzard ported over their Overwatch obfuscation. As I'm sure you are already aware, this is some pretty hard to get passed stuff. It's made it so EVERYTHING is detectable without some SERIOUS workarounds, and just like Overwatch, if something is undetected, it's not for very long. Because of this most cheat providers flat out refuse to make overwatch Hacks/Aimbots.

Why are Blizzard adding this obfuscation to WoW? Why not Diablo? It's quite simple actually. Last weekend we had the first round of the Mythic Dungeon Invitational. Blizzard are making a serious push to turn PvE into an E-Sport. And with all E-Sports, there needs to be legitimacy. These tournements are competed online instead of in a LAN environment which means people will be able to use third party software to gain an unfair advantage. This is Blizzards attempt to stop it.

You can already see, that a month after 7.3, Honorbuddy still has no finish line in site in terms of an update. I would expect it to stay this way. Remember when the Overwatch Aimbot was being detected days after an "update"? Expect the same for WoW now.

Sorry to say it guys, but botting is dead unless something Groundbreaking in terms of security is developed.

I don't really care if you believe me or not, but i figured i'd give it to you real.

You are the most stupid person ever.
There are currently a few combat routines running off FireHack - Was updated 2-3 days after the release of 7.3
WoWnet also supports a few routines.

 

[BestWarOCE]

You are the most stupid person ever.
There are currently a few combat routines running off FireHack - Was updated 2-3 days after the release of 7.3
WoWnet also supports a few routines.

Just because something works does not make it safe. Raphus could have this up and running the same day as patch if he ignored all the security risks too.

I'm fluent in lua and have coded my own rotation for firehack based off badrotations in the past. I simply wont use anything right now as none of those injectors are safe right now. They are up because they need to make $$

Anyone who is familiar with sublime text and lua, will recognize the formatting of a CR, and this is one i wrote for personal use (blurred for privacy), so please don't tell me what i do and don't know about FH/WH/Wtoolkit64/EWT/Wownet etc and lua injection. I know them all. There is only ONE safe product right now, and thats only because its out of process. I won't name it, you can do your own research.

Spoiler

 

[fedor100]

I'm not complaining to the developers of HB, the guys are doing a very good job, especially considering that every new launch of the wow.exe will generate a new memory check algorithm, I do not think yet that the algorithm for generating memory dump checks is safe to run the game.

 

[raphus]

thats only because its out of process.

I would not bet on that.

 

[BestWarOCE]

I would not bet on that.

More reason for people denying, to accept that nothing in its current form is safe.

All these programs that are currently updated are going to be wiped out the moment blizzard deem it necessary.

The ENTIRE reason HB is taking so long is because it doesn't want to cut corners at the expense of its users, like other programs have.

If you have used these programs you should stop using it until a real solution is developed or you'll be saying farewell to your account in the near future.

 

[bloodygaming]

blizzard cant even push PvP games into the esports scene. Blizzard is still being owned by Activison, their "eSports" is just an adcampaign. Look at the jokes hearthstone / WoW / Hots tournaments are.