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[Guide] The All-in-One LoN Bombardment Crusader

bex said:
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m8 ... your words are almost unreadable
okay, maybe points and commas are 10.000 B.C. lol
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my bad i was typing on my phone
will you mind have a look at the leaderboard and see what they used before you give advise because unless u are the voice of wisdom or the rest of the players are just plain dumb , i dont see the reason why u build so differently compare to the rest of the players
 
gnosis said:
my bad i was typing on my phone
will you mind have a look at the leaderboard and see what they used before you give advise because unless u are the voice of wisdom or the rest of the players are just plain dumb , i dont see the reason why u build so differently compare to the rest of the players
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Actually, Bex is correct. The top-ranked players on the leaderboards are not bots, they are human players. This guide is about botting efficiently and maximizing experience, not necessarily pushing grifts or playing like a human, which means different gear is required than what you see on the leaderboards. If you want to talk theorycrafting for humans, this is not the place.

You should be using Boyarsky's, Trapped, and Esoteric along with a high % Sunkeeper (mine is 35%) if you can get it. That's, by far, the best setup for botting 75+ efficiently.

And yes, I am certainly the "voice of wisdom" on this particular subject. :)
 
Fisher67 said:
Actually, Bex is correct. The top-ranked players on the leaderboards are not bots, they are human players. This guide is about botting efficiently and maximizing experience, not necessarily pushing grifts or playing like a human, which means different gear is required than what you see on the leaderboards. If you want to talk theorycrafting for humans, this is not the place.

You should be using Boyarsky's, Trapped, and Esoteric along with a high % Sunkeeper (mine is 35%) if you can get it. That's, by far, the best setup for botting 75+ efficiently.

And yes, I am certainly the "voice of wisdom" on this particular subject. :)
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what ever
i can bot in 80 with the build i use and i must say i didnt follow your guide a 100 %
 
Fisher67 said:
Actually, Bex is correct. The top-ranked players on the leaderboards are not bots, they are human players. This guide is about botting efficiently and maximizing experience, not necessarily pushing grifts or playing like a human, which means different gear is required than what you see on the leaderboards. If you want to talk theorycrafting for humans, this is not the place.

You should be using Boyarsky's, Trapped, and Esoteric along with a high % Sunkeeper (mine is 35%) if you can get it. That's, by far, the best setup for botting 75+ efficiently.

And yes, I am certainly the "voice of wisdom" on this particular subject. :)
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well spoken
 
Fisher67 said:
Actually, Bex is correct. The top-ranked players on the leaderboards are not bots, they are human players. This guide is about botting efficiently and maximizing experience, not necessarily pushing grifts or playing like a human, which means different gear is required than what you see on the leaderboards. If you want to talk theorycrafting for humans, this is not the place.

You should be using Boyarsky's, Trapped, and Esoteric along with a high % Sunkeeper (mine is 35%) if you can get it. That's, by far, the best setup for botting 75+ efficiently.

And yes, I am certainly the "voice of wisdom" on this particular subject. :)
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Very well said. Appreciated.

People have been talking about the sweet spot being around 70-71 for farming exp. Is this just due to the availability of gear / paragon for most? I'm only 890 paragon. Swapped in inG and I'm farming around 65-67 in 4/5 minutes happily.
 
L3P said:
Very well said. Appreciated.

People have been talking about the sweet spot being around 70-71 for farming exp. Is this just due to the availability of gear / paragon for most? I'm only 890 paragon. Swapped in inG and I'm farming around 65-67 in 4/5 minutes happily.
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"sweet spot" is like "most exp/h"

means : not highest grifts, no maxing gem levels, but best experience per hour.

so basically its better to run 71/72 in 6 minutes than running 75 in 10-11 minutes in terms of exp per time.
in lower rifts you can even replace esoteric with bane of the powerful (one of several potential examples) to improve killspeed.
i do so, running grifts until 73 with bane of the powerful and disabled "wait for convention of elements" and that goes quite well.
but : everyone has to adjust equip a little depending on what you currently have.
i got all ancients, 30% sun keeper, all augmented 70+ and 1240 pl.
as said on the first page this build from 70+ highly depends on what you got on rolls ... how fast and how high you can go.

if your equip still not the bests rolls your personal "sweet spot" might be lower ofc.
it simply does not make much sense to run 2-3 grift levels higher if the time you need doubles - in terms of exp!
pushing gems is another story ofc course ... i myself did not get them higher than 81 so far, but i did not try playing the crusader by hand
yet xD
 
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bex said:
"sweet spot" is like "most exp/h"

means : not highest grifts, no maxing gem levels, but best experience per hour.

so basically its better to run 71/72 in 6 minutes than running 75 in 10-11 minutes in terms of exp per time.
in lower rifts you can even replace esoteric with bane of the powerful (one of several potential examples) to improve killspeed.
i do so, running grifts until 73 with bane of the powerful and disabled "wait for convention of elements" and that goes quite well.
but : everyone has to adjust equip a little depending on what you currently have.
i got all ancients, 30% sun keeper, all augmented 70+ and 1240 pl.
as said on the first page this build from 70+ highly depends on what you got on rolls ... how fast and how high you can go.

if your equip still not the bests rolls your personal "sweet spot" might be lower ofc.
it simply does not make much sense to run 2-3 grift levels higher if the time you need doubles - in terms of exp!
pushing gems is another story ofc course ... i myself did not get them higher than 81 so far, but i did not try playing the crusader by hand
yet xD
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Awesome, thanks Bex. Going to sit around the 65 mark I think until I've managed to get the last ancient & an actual crown.
 
Sylencer90 said:
Is this still up-2-date for latest db stable?
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jup it is, just installed yesterday fresh from scratch.


// btw im up to grift 80 now, did runs last night to push gems... best time @ 10:45 xD
gems are now 83 ... lets see if 81 works too ...
 
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Optimal run time for xp? Or is it just based upon how quickly you can kill the elites?
 
L3P said:
Optimal run time for xp? Or is it just based upon how quickly you can kill the elites?
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well for myself i try to achieve max 7 minutes run time, average around 6 minutes.
is this optimum? well i don´t know, i do not invest time into math too much xD
depends as well if you run t10 / grift combo or only grift ofc course ...
 
I'm tweeking every 100 runs/day or so. 65 I can hit an average of around 4 minutes brining in 96b/h where as 67 just now is around 7 minutes and 75b/h.

Much fun!
 
Really keen to run this once I get the gear. On that note, do you have any recommended combat settings for the Invoker build? The default trigger ranges for Crusader are really low, so I'm guessing most of the settings posted here are interchangeable.
 
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Could you screenshot or say your avoidances? The new Trinity doesn't use your avoidances anymore. They changed a lot.
 
hugendubel said:
Does this works with the new DB and 2.4.1?
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Assuming your question is "does this build still function with Diablo patch 2.4.1 and current DB and plugins?

Short answer is yes.

Long answer:
Clear speeds are faster (at least for GR72), unless bot gets stuck, which happens more often now than at some times in past. But total exp/hour seems less, prolly by 30% less exp/hour, or so.

Hopefully the new stuck issues will be fixed soon. As for me, once Season 6 starts, I'll be playing Seasonal again to get my stash tab. I expect this build to work fine for that, probably about 2 weeks or so target to complete. Less if I weren't planning to be out of town this weekend.
 
after the recent db update the setting are all gone can i just paste the file like we did before
 
It would be great if someone could re-create the settings file again as the new Trinity has a different setup. Thanks.
 
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