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Guide for Best Use of Hearthbuddy for Arena (Check Here!)

DanielMahan

DanielMahan

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Hey guys, i've seen several posts of people asking for routine on running the bot with Arena~


THE BEST way to use it that i've found is:

Use Hearth Arena - Beyond the Tier List to draft your decklist, and after you've done that it will tell you if you have a Control or Aggro deck


From there, go into your routine and set it for either Control or Rush and gg!

I just ran a priest rush deck and got 12 wins 1 loss.


You're Welcome! Enjoy! :)
 
Behavior behave = new BehaviorRush();//change this to new BehaviorRush() for rush mode

public DefaultRoutine()
{
// Global rules. Never keep a 4+ minion, unless it's Bolvar Fordragon (paladin).
_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("True", "card.Entity.Cost >= 4 and card.Entity.Id != \"GVG_063\""));

// Never keep Tracking.
_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.UserClass == TAG_CLASS.HUNTER", "card.Entity.Id == \"DS1_184\""));

// Example rule for self.
//_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.UserClass == TAG_CLASS.MAGE", "card.Cost >= 5"));

// Example rule for opponents.
//_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.OpponentClass == TAG_CLASS.MAGE", "card.Cost >= 3"));

// Example rule for matchups.
//_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.userClass == TAG_CLASS.HUNTER && mulliganData.OpponentClass == TAG_CLASS.DRUID", "card.Cost >= 2"));

bool concede = false;

// play with these settings###################################
int enfacehp = 15; // hp of enemy when your hero is allowed to attack the enemy face with his weapon
int mxwde = 3000; // numer of boards which are taken to the next deep-lvl
int twotsamount = 0; // number of boards where the next turn is simulated
bool enemySecondTurnSim = false; // if he simulates the next players-turn, he also simulates the enemys respons

bool playaround = false; //play around some enemys aoe-spells?
//these two probs are >= 0 and <= 100
int playaroundprob = 50; //probability where the enemy plays the aoe-spell, but your minions will not die through it
int playaroundprob2 = 80; // probability where the enemy plays the aoe-spell, and your minions can die!
this.useExternalProcess = false; // use silver.exe for calculations a lot faster than turning it off (true = recomended)

int amountBoardsInEnemyTurnSim = 40;
int amountBoardsInEnemyTurnSimSecondStepp = 200;
int amountBoardsInEnemySecondTurnSim = 20;

int nextturnsimDeep = 6;
int nextturnsimMaxWidth = 20;
int nexttunsimMaxBoards = 200;

bool secrets = false; // playing arround enemys secrets

int alpha = 50
 
DanielMahan said:
Behavior behave = new BehaviorRush();//change this to new BehaviorRush() for rush mode

public DefaultRoutine()
{
// Global rules. Never keep a 4+ minion, unless it's Bolvar Fordragon (paladin).
_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("True", "card.Entity.Cost >= 4 and card.Entity.Id != \"GVG_063\""));

// Never keep Tracking.
_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.UserClass == TAG_CLASS.HUNTER", "card.Entity.Id == \"DS1_184\""));

// Example rule for self.
//_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.UserClass == TAG_CLASS.MAGE", "card.Cost >= 5"));

// Example rule for opponents.
//_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.OpponentClass == TAG_CLASS.MAGE", "card.Cost >= 3"));

// Example rule for matchups.
//_mulliganRules.Add(new Tuple<string, string>("mulliganData.userClass == TAG_CLASS.HUNTER && mulliganData.OpponentClass == TAG_CLASS.DRUID", "card.Cost >= 2"));

bool concede = false;

// play with these settings###################################
int enfacehp = 15; // hp of enemy when your hero is allowed to attack the enemy face with his weapon
int mxwde = 3000; // numer of boards which are taken to the next deep-lvl
int twotsamount = 0; // number of boards where the next turn is simulated
bool enemySecondTurnSim = false; // if he simulates the next players-turn, he also simulates the enemys respons

bool playaround = false; //play around some enemys aoe-spells?
//these two probs are >= 0 and <= 100
int playaroundprob = 50; //probability where the enemy plays the aoe-spell, but your minions will not die through it
int playaroundprob2 = 80; // probability where the enemy plays the aoe-spell, and your minions can die!
this.useExternalProcess = false; // use silver.exe for calculations a lot faster than turning it off (true = recomended)

int amountBoardsInEnemyTurnSim = 40;
int amountBoardsInEnemyTurnSimSecondStepp = 200;
int amountBoardsInEnemySecondTurnSim = 20;

int nextturnsimDeep = 6;
int nextturnsimMaxWidth = 20;
int nexttunsimMaxBoards = 200;

bool secrets = false; // playing arround enemys secrets

int alpha = 50
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you already made many arenas? and which media victories?
 
I test bot in many arenas and best score what i get is 2x 5-3 and all others are 2-3 or 3-3..I dont know why i cant get better score with bot,when i play manualy i get 9 or 10wins somethimes more but with bot max score is only 2x 5-3.I draw cards for arena in heartharena.com,i test bot with many others class,rush/control decks..I dont know why i no get better score with bot..Maybe no luck or i dont know..:-/
 
If u pick your Deck with Hearth Arena and it tells u that u have a Tempo Deck, how to play it? Rush or Control? It would be nice if u could make a list of the kinds of decks and how to chose the right playstyle with the bot.
 
Thankyou muchly for sharing.
This seems like a good thing for me to learn from.

aquaculinaris said:
If u pick your Deck with Hearth Arena and it tells u that u have a Tempo Deck, how to play it? Rush or Control? It would be nice if u could make a list of the kinds of decks and how to chose the right playstyle with the bot.
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Agree with that though I'm very terrified at the idea of editing myself like this. Would be nice if HB had a built in option to select this option without having to do that.
 
Very nice, these decks perform considerably better then what hearthbuddy usually throws together.
 
I dont understand sorry really noob. please can you slow it up for me. so I got the Hearth Arena and I look there looks like i am meant to type in what cards I am picking from but how dus that have anything to do with the bot? my bot its running 1 win and 9 fails :(
 
octaner said:
just played again it picked warlock and lost every game :(
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So, you draft a deck with Heartharena, it will tell you, that your deck is an aggro deck, or a midrange deck, or a controll deck.Then you go to your Hearthbuddy folder\Routines\DefaultRoutine and you open your DefaultRoutine.cs file with a text editor.( I highly recommend you to use Notepad++, its free.)Then you search for this string:(with Ctrl+F) "Behavior behave" without the qoutes ofc, by deafult you sould find this :"Behavior behave = new BehaviorControl();//change this to new BehaviorRush() for rush mode".So Heartharena said, that your deck is an aggro deck, you should change that to ""Behavior behave = new BehaviorRush();//change this to new BehaviorRush() for rush mode", and you start your game with your bot.

I suggest you to use BehaviorControl(); when Heartharena tells you, that your deck is:
-Control
-Midrange

I suggest you to use BehaviorRush(); when Heartharena tells you these:
-Tempo(aldoe it can be Control too, but most of the times tempo decks are pretty aggressive)
-Aggro
-Rush

I'll attach my custom DefaultRoutine.cs for you guys.
 

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th3n91n3 said:
So, you draft a deck with Heartharena, it will tell you, that your deck is an aggro deck, or a midrange deck, or a controll deck.Then you go to your Hearthbuddy folder\Routines\DefaultRoutine and you open your DefaultRoutine.cs file with a text editor.( I highly recommend you to use Notepad++, its free.)Then you search for this string:(with Ctrl+F) "Behavior behave" without the qoutes ofc, by deafult you sould find this :"Behavior behave = new BehaviorControl();//change this to new BehaviorRush() for rush mode".So Heartharena said, that your deck is an aggro deck, you should change that to ""Behavior behave = new BehaviorRush();//change this to new BehaviorRush() for rush mode", and you start your game with your bot.

I suggest you to use BehaviorControl(); when Heartharena tells you, that your deck is:
-Control
-Midrange

I suggest you to use BehaviorRush(); when Heartharena tells you these:
-Tempo(aldoe it can be Control too, but most of the times tempo decks are pretty aggressive)
-Aggro
-Rush

I'll attach my custom DefaultRoutine.cs for you guys.
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Thanks man I understand now, but do I let the bot pick the cards or do I pick the cards? because I have played 5 areas now and only got 1 win :(
 
Heartharena does help, but doesn't guarantee anything the bot still makes dumb decisions time after time. Just watched it play my mage in arena, opponent had an enemy with 8-1 took my 7-7 and attacked his 8-1 killing both, then attacking the face of a my opponent with a fireballs. Makes no sense to me.

edit - now it just used 4 mana on the fireball card to take out a 2-1 instead of just shooting the special 2 mana fireball at the guy and killing him

edit - just watch it loss to matches at 5-1 that were both easily winnable but nope ended 5-3 remind me never to play arena with this bot.

edit - just watch the bot not attack, opponent have no minions out and i just lost by 1, you have to be kidding me!
 
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Wouldn't use this "guide" again, I have a better win chance with the bot's default settings and the bot picking its own cards.
 
lost everygame!!!!! if i keep losing game i want a refund!

my record in arena with HB is 14 loss 1 win :/
 
the bot has some flaws, not perfect. Be patient and in due time it will get better.
 
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