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[Grandfathered] Leaves - Tree Heals Go Whoosh

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View attachment 6684 2014-10-29 21.11.txt log, you will find my glyphs and talents in there.
View attachment paid v3.0.zip my settings file

Thanks Mirabis!
 
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What makes this routine very good? whats the healing logic like? and how does it compare to Oracle? :)
 
sparkiezz said:
What makes this routine very good? whats the healing logic like? and how does it compare to Oracle? :)
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I speak only from a PVE perspective, because i don't do PVP.

In my opinion, as a user of both, they are both very good considering healing logic, but the real difference is in the extra settings that only Leaves have and continue to add.

Like visual targeting (make you looks a lot less bottish, it actually targets your healing targets), hotkeys for nearly everything, blacklist and whitelist of targets, the possibility to change settings on the fly during the fight with a single key... all these things make me prefer Leaves over all the other resto routines.

On the other hand, truth to be told, apart from this specific moment in wich all the routines are in the process of updating, Leaves is often buggy, and everytime that's an update it brings new bugs with it, or at least it was the case in MoP. New wonderful functions > something that worked before doesn't work anymore.. it's really annoying at first, but Mirabis works always hard on resolving the new bugs, and considering the genius of Mirabis, after one year of using his routines, i can live with it.

What can i say? If you can't afford both Leaves and Oracle II, wich i recommend, in my opinion you should ask yourself this question:

All you want is topping the meters on LFR and normal pugs without too much hassle, configuration, and no problems? Go with Oracle.

You are a perfectionist and you want to top the meters playing with real pro's in Mythic difficulty? You know your class, want to use it 100% and be considered not only a good healer, but a good overall player? Go with Leaves.
 
Dr Jackall said:
I speak only from a PVE perspective, because i don't do PVP.

In my opinion, as a user of both, they are both very good considering healing logic, but the real difference is in the extra settings that only Leaves have and continue to add.

Like visual targeting (make you looks a lot less bottish, it actually targets your healing targets), hotkeys for nearly everything, blacklist and whitelist of targets, the possibility to change settings on the fly during the fight with a single key... all these things make me prefer Leaves over all the other resto routines.

On the other hand, truth to be told, apart from this specific moment in wich all the routines are in the process of updating, Leaves is often buggy, and everytime that's an update it brings new bugs with it, or at least it was the case in MoP. New wonderful functions > something that worked before doesn't work anymore.. it's really annoying at first, but Mirabis works always hard on resolving the new bugs, and considering the genius of Mirabis, after one year of using his routines, i can live with it.

What can i say? If you can't afford both Leaves and Oracle II, wich i recommend, in my opinion you should ask yourself this question:

All you want is topping the meters on LFR and normal pugs without too much hassle, configuration, and no problems? Go with Oracle.

You are a perfectionist and you want to top the meters playing with real pro's in Mythic difficulty? You know your class, want to use it 100% and be considered not only a good healer, but a good overall player? Go with Leaves.
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In addition, Leaves will become more userfriendly/simplier to use. Reducement of settings, more automation, fresh - minimalistic interface etc.
 
[Leaves] Premium Edition

I like so match new stars UI!!!
Leaves like stars?
 
Dr Jackall said:
I speak only from a PVE perspective, because i don't do PVP.
What can i say? If you can't afford both Leaves and Oracle II, wich i recommend, in my opinion you should ask yourself this question:
All you want is topping the meters on LFR and normal pugs without too much hassle, configuration, and no problems? Go with Oracle.
You are a perfectionist and you want to top the meters playing with real pro's in Mythic difficulty? You know your class, want to use it 100% and be considered not only a good healer, but a good overall player? Go with Leaves.
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This was one of the best post I've ever read in this forum. Helped a lot, thanks.
I got both since that post, lol.

Rgds.
 
In addition, Leaves will become more userfriendly/simplier to use. Reducement of settings, more automation, fresh - minimalistic interface etc.
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i enjoy the control we have over mana management. being able to shift settings on the fly, during a fight, to adjust mana use was a very nice feature. are we going to lose too much control over the CR? i love the idea of a CR that can adapt to change using math, but in the end, there are more than a few things we need to control to down bosses with 19 other live people who can barely play their own characters but have every intention to tell us how to play ours.
 
frosticus said:
i enjoy the control we have over mana management. being able to shift settings on the fly, during a fight, to adjust mana use was a very nice feature. are we going to lose too much control over the CR? i love the idea of a CR that can adapt to change using math, but in the end, there are more than a few things we need to control to down bosses with 19 other live people who can barely play their own characters but have every intention to tell us how to play ours.
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You will be able to scale, so it will *attempt* to do more healing. But changing settings for every spell, on every type of raid member, has been removed. Hence the need for proper testing etc.
 
My interface is still the old one.. am i doing something wrong? Using Leaves Premium WOD ALPHA 2.3.0.360.
 
TheHammer said:
My interface is still the old one.. am i doing something wrong? Using Leaves Premium WOD ALPHA 2.3.0.360.
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No, thats because thats the public release. New interface not public yet,
 
It is far simpler to manage, and once you get used to it, way easier to do things on the fly...

Think "throttle" control ;-)

EDIT:
Out of the box it outheals people 10 ilvl higher than you. A 550 heals like a 560 for example. All day long. I cannot stress enough how good this CR is for druids.
 
changing settings for every spell, on every type of raid member, has been removed
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it has been a long time since i was directed to 'heal group X'. a long time since i was directed to stop healing the tank and focus on the raid. mainly because leaves heals every situation so well, raidleaders dont want to change anything. i hear 'druid, you keep doing what youre doing!!' quite a bit using this CR.

i tend to adjust my rejuv count multiple times during a raid. generally 100% coverage on tanks and healers, with as many dps covered as my mana allows. will this still be adjustable with the new settings? will it adjust the cr if we are using too much mana? we no longer have mana cds so matching mana use with boss health will be a little more relevant. no longer will we be able to burn mana fast, and count on innervate to replenish. less to worry about, less to mentally calculate while raiding. just being able to match 59%boss health, should be 59%mana. i dont even pretend to know how leaves works, but i know how druids work.
 
how to use the routine for levelling healer? he does nothing on dungeon O.o, i'm returned here not from a lot maybe is not compatibile with enyo?
 
frosticus said:
it has been a long time since i was directed to 'heal group X'. a long time since i was directed to stop healing the tank and focus on the raid. mainly because leaves heals every situation so well, raidleaders dont want to change anything. i hear 'druid, you keep doing what youre doing!!' quite a bit using this CR.

i tend to adjust my rejuv count multiple times during a raid. generally 100% coverage on tanks and healers, with as many dps covered as my mana allows. will this still be adjustable with the new settings? will it adjust the cr if we are using too much mana? we no longer have mana cds so matching mana use with boss health will be a little more relevant. no longer will we be able to burn mana fast, and count on innervate to replenish. less to worry about, less to mentally calculate while raiding. just being able to match 59%boss health, should be 59%mana. i dont even pretend to know how leaves works, but i know how druids work.
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You can still modify the max upcount on Rejuvenation, and there's a slider for efficiency/more throughput with some behind the code calculations.
 
tobinopowa said:
how to use the routine for levelling healer? he does nothing on dungeon O.o, i'm returned here not from a lot maybe is not compatibile with enyo?
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Enyo will not move for u, so that looks like wanted behavior. Either way, please upload a log file :)
 
i know he will not move, i play my little toon just want the bot to heal with the heal available
 
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