[Grandfathered] Leaves - Tree Heals Go Whoosh

Tim81 · Apr 7, 2015

ChibiMatt said:
And working wonderfully. Make sure to check 'Attack' is on, and that you have chosen SotF and DoC, and your character will fill any time it's not casting a heal with wrath spamming.

I've chosen SotF and DoC as talents, but I don't see DoC under Advanced Spells or so. I do see SotF with options Rejunevation, Regrowth and Wild Growth. Attack is enabled, but my character is not spamming Wrath.

paperc07 · Apr 8, 2015

how do we use this now since we can't use enyo?

Mirabis · Apr 8, 2015

paperc07 said:
how do we use this now since we can't use enyo?

Why can't u use Enyo?

paperc07 · Apr 8, 2015

Mirabis said:
Why can't u use Enyo?

idk keeps saying this

[59:151]: Starting Up Combatlog -- Bot Started
[Enyo] ------------------------------------------
[Enyo] Shutdown - Performing required actions.
[Enyo] -------------------------------------------

[59:183]: Shutting Down Combatlog -- Bot Stopped

Brownbie · Apr 8, 2015

im having massive fps drops while enyo and this routine are active when the bot is not on i get 50-60 fps but when the bot is active it drops to 15-20 fps

pivogon · Apr 9, 2015

paperc07 said:
idk keeps saying this

[59:151]: Starting Up Combatlog -- Bot Started
[Enyo] ------------------------------------------
[Enyo] Shutdown - Performing required actions.
[Enyo] -------------------------------------------

[59:183]: Shutting Down Combatlog -- Bot Stopped

Delete everything in the Cache and Settings. Began to work.

Mirabis · Apr 9, 2015

Brownbie said:
im having massive fps drops while enyo and this routine are active when the bot is not on i get 50-60 fps but when the bot is active it drops to 15-20 fps

Could u upload the log? I need it to be able to determine a possible cause.

justfowowlol · Apr 9, 2015

Having a hard time with this routine, I followed the instruction to gain more HPS and for some reason it ain't working. My ilvl is 671, and i also go oom by the end of the fight so.. I wish i knew what to do here.

I guess with gear it will get better. I am doing BRF heroic atm.

Anyone got settings with gear around my Ilvl ? I pull around 15k hps to 26k hps the healers in my group are very well gear and i get carried.. I hate that.

Mirabis · Apr 9, 2015

justfowowlol said:
Having a hard time with this routine, I followed the instruction to gain more HPS and for some reason it ain't working. My ilvl is 671, and i also go oom by the end of the fight so.. I wish i knew what to do here.

I guess with gear it will get better. I am doing BRF heroic atm.

Anyone got settings with gear around my Ilvl ? I pull around 15k hps to 26k hps the healers in my group are very well gear and i get carried.. I hate that.

Take a look at the settings share platform. And upload a log please, allows me to check ur settings during that encounter.

jaksemurf · Apr 9, 2015

justfowowlol said:
Having a hard time with this routine, I followed the instruction to gain more HPS and for some reason it ain't working. My ilvl is 671, and i also go oom by the end of the fight so.. I wish i knew what to do here.

I guess with gear it will get better. I am doing BRF heroic atm.

Anyone got settings with gear around my Ilvl ? I pull around 15k hps to 26k hps the healers in my group are very well gear and i get carried.. I hate that.

At 671 I was able to get 30-40k HPS in most BRF fights. Keep in mind, certain fights are just not the best for druid healers. Also, your HPS will inherently drop if your fellow healers heal very aggressively.

I think it's important to keep in mind that so long as people aren't dying from insufficient heals, you've done your job, even if your numbers aren't that high. Unlike DPS, there is a limited amount of healing that can be done at any given time. Whichever healer hits it first gets the numbers. If I had to guess, I would say that going OOM and putting up low numbers has a few possible culprits: *

*Using direct heals.. like, at all. Druids should probably only use regrowth on clearcasting procs and low HP tanks. If you're using regrowth more often than that, you're wasting mana. Also, the cast time can't compete with other healers using instants. Just set Healing Touch to 1/1/1 and Regrowth to 25tank/15heal/1dps. The routine will still use them to maintain your mastery proc.

*Using wild growth at too high of an HP threshold. Wild growth eats up your mana like crazy. It's a great spell and can earn you huge HPS, but if you use it at like 90% you're gonna generate MOSTLY overheal at a huge mana cost.

*Not manually casting Wild Mushroom. Wild Mushroom generates a lot of HPS, but you should manual cast it. The routine has a tendency to move it too often which eats a lot of mana. You can anticipate where it needs to be better than the routine can, imho.

* Using Dream of Cenarius too much results in low HPS but high mana efficiency. I like this talent, but the routine doesn't control it that well. I use a hotkey to assign 3 profiles to hotkeys.
Alt + C = High threshold Rejuv + Wild Growth (DOC Deactivate) spam profile (like 90-95%). I use this during encounters like Flamebender, Darmac, Brackenspore etc where people start taking huge raid damage. Right before Infesting Spores/Tantrum/FlameyAOEThingy I activate this profile so it will HoT everyone up as soon as raid damage starts.

Alt + D is Moderate Threshold Rejuv + Wild Growth (Like 80% rejuv, 70% Germinate, DOC Deactivated). I use this during most of the rest of the time during fights when a few people might take a big spike from failing a mechanic but otherwise not much is going on.

Alt + E is identical to the Alt + D profile, except it has DOC activated. I just use this sometimes when everyone is topped off to conserve some mana by using DOC. You DEFINITELY need to control DoC manually, because healing routines will sometimes continue to wrath spam despite it being more appropriate to start throwing out raidwide heals. It will complete a just started wrath cast, even though 6 people just took a big spike and it's more appropriate to cancel wrath and swap to Wild Growth or whatever. Hopefully someday the druid routines will be updated to interrupt DoC spam but for now you should control whether DoC is activated or not.

*Disable routine using Genesis or Tranquility. You should control these yourself. It's better to use them proactively rather than reactively. Genesis burns mana like a madness and a well time tranquility can earn you 30k HPS all by itself (assuming some monk doesn't pop revival and ruin your CD).

*Turn off the mana saver option. I have no idea what exactly this does, but I found that it never saved me mana but tended to cause very passive healing.

*I also recommend setting Soul of the Forest to only proc on Wild Growth. It significantly increases mana costs to use it with single target heals for not much gain. If you have an emergency you can proc it manually.

justfowowlol · Apr 9, 2015

jaksemurf said:
At 671 I was able to get 30-40k HPS in most BRF fights. Keep in mind, certain fights are just not the best for druid healers. Also, your HPS will inherently drop if your fellow healers heal very aggressively.

I think it's important to keep in mind that so long as people aren't dying from insufficient heals, you've done your job, even if your numbers aren't that high. Unlike DPS, there is a limited amount of healing that can be done at any given time. Whichever healer hits it first gets the numbers. If I had to guess, I would say that going OOM and putting up low numbers has a few possible culprits: *

*Using direct heals.. like, at all. Druids should probably only use regrowth on clearcasting procs and low HP tanks. If you're using regrowth more often than that, you're wasting mana. Also, the cast time can't compete with other healers using instants. Just set Healing Touch to 1/1/1 and Regrowth to 25tank/15heal/1dps. The routine will still use them to maintain your mastery proc.

*Using wild growth at too high of an HP threshold. Wild growth eats up your mana like crazy. It's a great spell and can earn you huge HPS, but if you use it at like 90% you're gonna generate MOSTLY overheal at a huge mana cost.

*Not manually casting Wild Mushroom. Wild Mushroom generates a lot of HPS, but you should manual cast it. The routine has a tendency to move it too often which eats a lot of mana. You can anticipate where it needs to be better than the routine can, imho.

* Using Dream of Cenarius too much results in low HPS but high mana efficiency. I like this talent, but the routine doesn't control it that well. I use a hotkey to assign 3 profiles to hotkeys.
Alt + C = High threshold Rejuv + Wild Growth (DOC Deactivate) spam profile (like 90-95%). I use this during encounters like Flamebender, Darmac, Brackenspore etc where people start taking huge raid damage. Right before Infesting Spores/Tantrum/FlameyAOEThingy I activate this profile so it will HoT everyone up as soon as raid damage starts.

Alt + D is Moderate Threshold Rejuv + Wild Growth (Like 80% rejuv, 70% Germinate, DOC Deactivated). I use this during most of the rest of the time during fights when a few people might take a big spike from failing a mechanic but otherwise not much is going on.

Alt + E is identical to the Alt + D profile, except it has DOC activated. I just use this sometimes when everyone is topped off to conserve some mana by using DOC. You DEFINITELY need to control DoC manually, because healing routines will sometimes continue to wrath spam despite it being more appropriate to start throwing out raidwide heals. It will complete a just started wrath cast, even though 6 people just took a big spike and it's more appropriate to cancel wrath and swap to Wild Growth or whatever. Hopefully someday the druid routines will be updated to interrupt DoC spam but for now you should control whether DoC is activated or not.

*Disable routine using Genesis or Tranquility. You should control these yourself. It's better to use them proactively rather than reactively. Genesis burns mana like a madness and a well time tranquility can earn you 30k HPS all by itself (assuming some monk doesn't pop revival and ruin your CD).

*Turn off the mana saver option. I have no idea what exactly this does, but I found that it never saved me mana but tended to cause very passive healing.

*I also recommend setting Soul of the Forest to only proc on Wild Growth. It significantly increases mana costs to use it with single target heals for not much gain. If you have an emergency you can proc it manually.

Thanks ill give this a try and report back!

justfowowlol · Apr 9, 2015

Mirabis said:
Take a look at the settings share platform. And upload a log please, allows me to check ur settings during that encounter.

at the settings share platform <-- Where do i find this ?

I uploaded log from yesterday, hopefully it's the right one.

View attachment 4036 2015-04-08 21.57.txt

Hopefully you can guide me in the right direction, do you want my character stats ? I can post a screenshot of my stats might help you as well

Thanks.

theblade · Apr 10, 2015

Mirabis said:
Sounds like the popup not coming to he front window. Have u tried restarting ur pc?

multiple times. i even have a fresh format of my PC....so that is deff not the prob.

Sorry it took so long to respond, work got in the way.

pivogon · Apr 10, 2015

Leaves_Raid_Test_Myt_20_BRF_All_20_All - who makes these settings, you can say what talents to choose and how much you have spirit?

Mirabis · Apr 10, 2015

justfowowlol said:
at the settings share platform <-- Where do i find this ?

I uploaded log from yesterday, hopefully it's the right one.

View attachment 174753

Hopefully you can guide me in the right direction, do you want my character stats ? I can post a screenshot of my stats might help you as well

Thanks.

A lot of -0.0/s dmg on raid member, they either took spike dmg... or scans went wrong. But turning off 'Save Mana' should help in ur case.

justfowowlol · Apr 10, 2015

ok will give it a try

Mirabis · Apr 11, 2015

Release 2.3.2.387

Pushed out a new version, awaiting store approval before it goes live.

Changelog:

Replaced all chat window prints with Overlay Toasts
Renamings in the GUI
Fix issue where it did not unsubscribe the hotswap profile keys
Increased hotswap slots from 3 to 5
Combatlog optimizations
Lua & Framerate improvements

Brownbie · Apr 11, 2015

Mirabis said:
Pushed out a new version, awaiting store approval before it goes live.

Changelog:

Replaced all chat window prints with Overlay Toasts

Renamings in the GUI

Fix issue where it did not unsubscribe the hotswap profile keys

Increased hotswap slots from 3 to 5

Combatlog optimizations

Lua & Framerate improvements

so since this new update it casts lifebloom constantly on the tank like on gcd.

heres the log notice me going into settings alot that was me trying to figure out how to fix it i eventually just disabled lifebloom all together and did it manually
View attachment 8892 2015-04-11 17.56.txt

Talia1821 · Apr 11, 2015

View attachment 17460 2015-04-11 23.39.txt

I am having the same problem and it just had to happen right before my raid time. My guy is just spamming Lifebloom.

Botastic · Apr 12, 2015

Talia1821 said:
View attachment 175067

I am having the same problem and it just had to happen right before my raid time. My guy is just spamming Lifebloom.

Same also for some reason the language is not in english anymore so i cant even change the settings

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