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[Frost] Synapse made by Weischbier

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NickV said:
That's so helpful. What is that you do different by hand that this cc should do?
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I'am not a coder so i don't have a clue what the cc does or not I only search for a cc that play for me but so far there is no cc which can handle max aoe & single target dps for frost dk's ;x

I play on 2h Frost dk 493 ilvl so far i can see the cc does not properly use frost strike even when i am on 100 rp its still not using sometimes and no its not an aoe situation <-- massive dps loss
On some fights there was only one disease on the target and enough runes rdy to apply the other disease even unholy blight was ready but the cc does not even use this spell <-- yes it was checked on the gui
But the worst was aoe dmg 5+ targets the cc does 97k dmg 5+ I do 180k up to 200k+ (when rdy -> ub -> dnd -> spamming hb and frost strike hope runic empowermen will proc for more hb ;)
 
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bend1 said:
I'am not a coder so i don't have a clue what the cc does or not I only search for a cc that play for me but so far there is no cc which can handle max aoe & single target dps for frost dk's ;x

I play on 2h Frost dk 493 ilvl so far i can see the cc does not properly use frost strike even when i am on 100 rp its still not using sometimes and no its not an aoe situation <-- massive dps loss
On some fights there was only one disease on the target and enough runes rdy to apply the other disease even unholy blight was ready but the cc does not even use this spell <-- yes it was checked on the gui
But the worst was aoe dmg 5+ targets the cc does 97k dmg 5+ I do 180k up to 200k+ (when rdy -> ub -> dnd -> spamming hb and frost strike hope runic empowermen will proc for more hb ;)
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I guess the Problem is not the CC... its in front of the screen!
I only have Itemlevel 486 and made it to Top15 at Garalon 10nHc regarding to World of Logs... at the windlord this CC does way more then 200k DMG in the beginning with all adds alive...

so... please go and troll somewhere else
 
i was only in heroics all ids clear so can't test @raid but we will see tomorrow

i troll where i want to troll kk?
 
Drizzt1990 said:
Even in heroics this CC pulls about 75-80k without flasks&food
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Comparing 5 man heroics to raid environment ?! You're a fucking moron.
What the other poster said is correct , CC sometimes misses using frost strike and I have to do it manually.
Not that its that big of a deal but I'm just pointing it out.
 
If you dont say something constructive I'll get all your posts deleted!

So if you feel the urge to "troll where you want" then troll another thread but not here...
 
In the combat.cs it has:
Code: 
/Interrupt
Spell.InterruptSpellCasts(ret => Me.CurrentTarget), Misc.[COLOR=#FF0000]UseItmes[/COLOR]);
 
Under the 2H priority selector you have it cast Oblit if <= 76 RP and then FS if >= 78 RP. Granted, the instances you'd have exactly 77 RP when it pulsed there is slim, but it could still cause some missed FSs.
You also have the last priority as FS if Oblit has > 1.0 second CD. That should probably be just a FS no matter what. If you got all the way down the list and had nothing else to do, might as well cast FS.
 
fpsware said:
EDIT: Not to go off on a personal rant, but the attitudes and expectations of some members of this community is downright appalling and completely disrespectful.
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Amen brotha
 
NickV said:
Under the 2H priority selector you have it cast Oblit if <= 76 RP and then FS if >= 78 RP. Granted, the instances you'd have exactly 77 RP when it pulsed there is slim, but it could still cause some missed FSs.
You also have the last priority as FS if Oblit has > 1.0 second CD. That should probably be just a FS no matter what. If you got all the way down the list and had nothing else to do, might as well cast FS.
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Well, the numbers are pulled like this because HB Runic Power detection is more than slow.
Atm I use Lua and I personally have no issues with pooling Runic Power. I never sit on any which ,sometimes, makes me curious, if this is right.
And to wait 1.1s for Obliterate is totally worth it. OB hits harder when played with 2h.
 
weischbier said:
If you dont say something constructive I'll get all your posts deleted!

So if you feel the urge to "troll where you want" then troll another thread but not here...
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Pointing what I feel to be an error in executing the perfect rotation has nothing to do with trolling, specially when I, myself consider your work to be the best frost dk rotation out there at the moment.
with that said theres also something else about applying diseases. I don't know if it is just me but it has happened several times for me where the bot doesn't apply one of the two diseases , or maybe I should say it somehow delays to apply the second disease which is obviously a Dps loss. I could probably provide a log next time Im in a raid.
 
Extreme_kid said:
Pointing what I feel to be an error in executing the perfect rotation has nothing to do with trolling, specially when I, myself consider your work to be the best frost dk rotation out there at the moment.
with that said theres also something else about applying diseases. I don't know if it is just me but it has happened several times for me where the bot doesn't apply one of the two diseases , or maybe I should say it somehow delays to apply the second disease which is obviously a Dps loss. I could probably provide a log next time Im in a raid.
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Oh I should make clear that the "troll" statement wasn't pointed at you. I thought it must be clear who this is pointing at.

Regarding your issues:
What disease specifically is delayed?
If it is Blood Plague, there should be no problem at all. We stay on 1 Unholy Rune to make sure we never drop off.

greetz

Weischbier
 
Extreme_kid said:
Comparing 5 man heroics to raid environment ?! You're a fucking moron.
What the other poster said is correct , CC sometimes misses using frost strike and I have to do it manually.
Not that its that big of a deal but I'm just pointing it out.
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bend1 said:
i was only in heroics all ids clear so can't test @raid but we will see tomorrow

i troll where i want to troll kk?
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he said he was only in heroics... i didn't compare raids and heroics, i compared the heroics dps he postet with my heroics dps
 
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is it possible to make this support health stones also? I rather it try to pop a healthstone at 50% for example.
 
The trolling thing was for Drizzt1990 only, not for this thread...
I know everyone like me is happy to have this cc it's nice but as i said there are some problems with the cc and i am not the only one with these problems...
Even with their omg I am ranked @wow logs rofl nhc is serious business, the cc could even make much more dmg!
So I only want to show u 2-3 bugs i noticed but hey when everyone is happy with that I am too np

i appreciate ur work since I am on this board @weischbier keep it up :)
 
he weischbier,
your cc is awesome!
I had a raid tonight and we fought against Garalon 10nhc, normally i tank but this time i?ve done frost with your cc. my ilvl is 469 and my initializedamage were at 180k (with prepot) and overall at 98k dps.
I used Plague Leech too...every last 3-4 seconds of the Blood Plague and Frost Fever i stopped bot and used Plague Leech to get a deathrune and start bot again. i thought it have been a damage increase, maybe you can implement Plague Leech too?

keep up the good work!
 
bend1 said:
The trolling thing was for Drizzt1990 only, not for this thread...
I know everyone like me is happy to have this cc it's nice but as i said there are some problems with the cc and i am not the only one with these problems...
Even with their omg I am ranked @wow logs rofl nhc is serious business, the cc could even make much more dmg!
So I only want to show u 2-3 bugs i noticed but hey when everyone is happy with that I am too np

i appreciate ur work since I am on this board @weischbier keep it up :)
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Every feedback is welcome as long it is constructive.
Your first post wasn't, sadly.
So, it looks like you know what you're talking about.
Sum up our issues and write them down. I always listen when there are issues and I'm eager to solve them!

Rohalan said:
he weischbier,
your cc is awesome!
I had a raid tonight and we fought against Garalon 10nhc, normally i tank but this time i?ve done frost with your cc. my ilvl is 469 and my initializedamage were at 180k (with prepot) and overall at 98k dps.
I used Plague Leech too...every last 3-4 seconds of the Blood Plague and Frost Fever i stopped bot and used Plague Leech to get a deathrune and start bot again. i thought it have been a damage increase, maybe you can implement Plague Leech too?

keep up the good work!
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I'll think about it. There is already a method build in to make use of Plague Leech.
I'll see what I can do!

@All: I just stood 01h:04m:26s in frint of a Dummy and when I looked at my diseases uptime:
  • Frost Fever: 99.9%
  • Blood Plague: 99.2%
I know that hitting a dummy is a patchwork fight and that these number's are not viable to compare to raid environment. But I think that these numbers show that reapplying diseases is no issue, at least for me and my laptop (bad).

I'll push an update today or tomorrow! I'll head just right now into my last exam of this year!

greetz

Weischbier
 
bot needs two improvements:

1:implementation of plague leech to maximize dps. it is after all the overall strongest talent in its tier. my suggestion would be to use PL if the diseases run less than 2 seconds or the enemy has less than one global of raiddps left (500k on non boss type enemies)
2:including death and decay into single target rotation for dual wield frost. perhaps the most important issue at hand here.

dnd is a major single (and of course multitarget) dps gain. if you observe the single target rotation one unholy rune is unused 99% of the time, and death and decay is where it should go. this also would help since current haste levels allow for a lot of idle time anyways.

apart from those two very good work. keep it up :)
 
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