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Fpsware Shadow Priest *DPS TEST ONLY*

I ran tests this morning again.

Latest test build [24/2/2012 #3] is a marked improvement. MF is clipping properly (If not a tad early, but nothing a player wouldn't do themselves). VT fell off a couple of times while Mind Flaying, though the downtime was only 1 or 2 seconds. Everything else seemed awesome.

As I've been running it with the raid bot botbase I can't run plugin's to pop trinkets etc, so these numbers would increase given trinkets. But I think all the spells are being utilised correctly.

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AtticusG3 said:
I ran tests this morning again.

Latest test build [24/2/2012 #3] is a marked improvement. MF is clipping properly (If not a tad early, but nothing a player wouldn't do themselves). VT fell off a couple of times while Mind Flaying, though the downtime was only 1 or 2 seconds. Everything else seemed awesome.

As I've been running it with the raid bot botbase I can't run plugin's to pop trinkets etc, so these numbers would increase given trinkets. But I think all the spells are being utilised correctly.

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Thanks! That is exactly what I wanted to hear. I agree, at times MF is clipped too soon, maybe one day I'll address that. But for the most part I'm damn happy with the DPS output.

Thanks for the feed backup, its greatly appreciated.
 
I just tested your new Release and yeah, its Okay, but the results are NOT better, they are about equal.

Lets put it this way:

Last release you lost after every MF about 400ms till the next was casted. Now it clips MF which is nice, but around 80% of all MF are clipped to early so the last tick does NOT hit the mob, so again you lose 400ms till the next tick hits.

After putting it together, at least for me, there is no improved compared to the last release, tomrrow i will check both on another comp and will hopefully see, that my comp is bullshit and your CC is great. :)
 
15k DPS in mostly disc healing gear (2k spirit) ilvl 373 on raid boss dummy.
Very nice job so far mate. I really am excited about the direction this CC is going. I may just have to start playing shadow again.
 
buzzerbeater said:
I just tested your new Release and yeah, its Okay, but the results are NOT better, they are about equal.

Lets put it this way:

Last release you lost after every MF about 400ms till the next was casted. Now it clips MF which is nice, but around 80% of all MF are clipped to early so the last tick does NOT hit the mob, so again you lose 400ms till the next tick hits.

After putting it together, at least for me, there is no improved compared to the last release, tomrrow i will check both on another comp and will hopefully see, that my comp is bullshit and your CC is great. :)
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I'm working on that right now as a matter of fact :)

Its clipping MF far too soon which is resulting in less DPS.
 
EDIT: New build uploaded [25 02 12] - MAJOR UPDATE
NB: This must be installed in a folder called Fpsware Priest. Eg "..HB\CustomClasses\Fpsware Priest" You must completely remove ALL previous builds of this CC or my other priest CC in order for this to work properly

UI added
  • The UI is NOT complete
  • The UI will NOT save your settings
  • Only a few settings work; if an option is blank when you open the UI then changing that setting will have no effect
Casting Prioritisation in the UI is work
  • But as I said it will not save your settings)
  • There should not be any reason to change the settings as they are optomised for maximum DPS
Mind Flay clipping setting available in the UI, on the Advanced tab, Mind Flay Clipping. If you want this to clip earlier / sooner than it to a LOWER number. If you want it to clip later change this to a HIGHER number. For my connection, ~230ms the default value of '6 Normal' works very well. Have a look in the UI, you'll understand what I mean.


Have a play with the MF clipping settings and let me know what works best for you.
 
Just tested around and I could see, that MF has Dot Mechanics, meaning if you clip to early, the tick is added to the next MF so it doesnt matter at all when you recast it, IF it is after the second tick. (And no matter which clip timer i choose, its always after the second.)

If you say Maximum DPS, why is Shadowfiend not at 95% or 100%?

And could you add some kind of Evangelism check? It could be only cast archangel if VT and DP have more than 8 seconds left OR only recast VT and DP if 5 Stacks of Evangelism are present? (Dunno if its a real DPS inrease, but why not, for test purpose. :D )

Ah btw, nice Spellprio system. :)
 
buzzerbeater said:
Just tested around and I could see, that MF has Dot Mechanics, meaning if you clip to early, the tick is added to the next MF so it doesnt matter at all when you recast it, IF it is after the second tick. (And no matter which clip timer i choose, its always after the second.)

If you say Maximum DPS, why is Shadowfiend not at 95% or 100%?

And could you add some kind of Evangelism check? It could be only cast archangel if VT and DP have more than 8 seconds left OR only recast VT and DP if 5 Stacks of Evangelism are present? (Dunno if its a real DPS inrease, but why not, for test purpose. :D )

Ah btw, nice Spellprio system. :)
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Archangel doesn't effect DoTs, only direct damage spells.

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buzzerbeater said:
You get me wrong, it consumes Evangelism stacks, which effects dots, this is why i mean, there should be enough time to restack them.
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Ahhh... yeah I see what you are saying. I'll do some testing and see what I can come up with.


EDIT: Just a very quick test to establish some details. ...

[On my charater]
When VT is cast WITHOUT Dark Evangelism being present they tick for 3019
When VT is cast WITH Dark Evangelism (5 stacks) being present they tick for 3326
VT tick damage does not change if you gain DE after VT is placed on the target.

Therefore.... what I'm [probably] going to do is recast VT (and DP) if it has less than half duration before DE is cast. Thereby increasing VT (and DP) tick damage before DE is consumed by Archangel.
 
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Ok, so after some testing and weighing up the Pros and Cons of recasting VT (and DE) before consuming DE with Archangel its not at all worth it.

The amount of damage (damage, not DPS) you're going to lose by not recasting VT with DE is ~9000, and this will only happen once within 2 minutes (Archangel cooldown).

In order to almost guarantee VT (and DE) is cast with 5 stacks of DE then I would simply change the priority of Archangel in the spell rotation; make sure it is a lower priority than VT (and DE).
 
fpsware said:
Ok, so after some testing and weighing up the Pros and Cons of recasting VT (and DE) before consuming DE with Archangel its not at all worth it.

The amount of damage (damage, not DPS) you're going to lose by not recasting VT with DE is ~9000, and this will only happen once within 2 minutes (Archangel cooldown).

In order to almost guarantee VT (and DE) is cast with 5 stacks of DE then I would simply change the priority of Archangel in the spell rotation; make sure it is a lower priority than VT (and DE).
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This is the normal approach players take, also, we cast DA when our int procs are all up, ie spellweave thread, trinket equip procs Volc Pot etc.
 
AtticusG3 said:
This is the normal approach players take, also, we cast DA when our int procs are all up, ie spellweave thread, trinket equip procs Volc Pot etc.
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So you are saying that you will always recast VT and DP on 5 stacks of DE before it is consumed by Archangle? Regardless of the current time left on the DOT?
 
Nope, what I'm saying is players don't recast, as it's not worth the cost of the CD for the amount of damaged received.

DE will be @ 5 Stacks most of the time, the chances of you reapplying VT whens it's not are fairly low, even after casting DA you still have 15 seconds to build your Stacks back up before VT falls off.

Edit: A player would refresh VT before DA, even if it means holding DA for 5-10 seconds. IE DE = 5 Stacks, DA CD < 5, VT has <8s remaining, I would hold DA until I had refreshed VT.

Damn you reply fast lol
 
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AtticusG3 said:
Nope, what I'm saying is players don't recast, as it's not worth the cost of the CD for the amount of damaged received.

DE will be @ 5 Stacks most of the time, the chances of you reapplying VT whens it's not are fairly low, even after casting DA you still have 15 seconds to build your Stacks back up before VT falls off.
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Correct. Sorry, I was a little confused by your first statement for a moment until I reread it.

With the exception of the first time VT & DP are cast, they will almost always be recast when you have 5 stacks of DE.

I'm glad we cleared that up :)
 
ah btw. talking about recasting.

Ever thought about a heroism check to recast DP VT?

Should again be a DPS increase.

and just made long term tests with Raidbot and Lazyraider, no difference for me.

Both at around 20.9k dps

Tested Archangel as lower prio, but didnt change much for me.
 
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fpsware said:
Correct, it shouldn't make any difference at all.
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I dont mean DPS wise, i mean recast wise. Still 99% after the first archangel was a VT recasted without 5 evangelism stacks.

It really doesnt hurt much, but if you try to get max dps, why not.
 
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