Flagged accounts.

[foam_follower]

I read on the tripwire thread that accounts are flagged by Windows Key and Hardware I.D. I'm fairly sure that's unlikely with regard to flagged Windows Key but Hardware I.D? Any information here would be appreciated.

Regarding the Windows Key, I have 3 PCs all using the same shared key (Triple Windows 7 upgrade from XP). They were all upgraded to windows 10 last year. Flagging a Windows Key would flag all of my gaming PC's.

 

[DracoBlaze]

Think they just Flag the account, nothing else. Least from my understanding of it.
I've cheated and botted a lot and I hardly get banned, and when I do I create a new sub and carry on. Never been perma banned because of this, and all subs have lasted atleast a year before them.

 

[foam_follower]

Thank you.

 

[Jiniix]

Tracking on the Windows serial would be retarded, considering that 80% of Windows 10 upgrades are running with the same key.
Hardware ID, UUID and Windows Registry keys would be much more effecient, and, in my opinion, would be stupid of Blizzard not to note those down when getting confirmation that someone is a cheater.

 

[Aion]

I read on the tripwire thread that accounts are flagged by Windows Key and Hardware I.D. I'm fairly sure that's unlikely with regard to flagged Windows Key but Hardware I.D? Any information here would be appreciated.

Regarding the Windows Key, I have 3 PCs all using the same shared key (Triple Windows 7 upgrade from XP). They were all upgraded to windows 10 last year. Flagging a Windows Key would flag all of my gaming PC's.

People assume the above, simply because they cannot get the idea how their computer system is flagged and banned with another account, soon after their previous account get banned.

But actually, Blizzard since decades use other legal methods to identify customers computers.

Anyone nearby 15-20 years ago, would remember that Blizzard used to store or integrate their games physical CD-Keys (There was no digital ones back then) inside the game installation files.

So once we wanted to move the installed game - Diablo 1/2, Starcraft/BroodWars etc to different computer, we were just moving the whole game folder, and the license was going with it.

We must be silly to not assume the same nowadays - that Blizzard is storing an unique identify key with each WoW installation, either in the install folder, or into their namespace in the Windows registry.

That way they are 100% legal into anonymously identifying the game clients, without storing actual customers personal details like Windows key, any hardware Ids etc.

 

[foam_follower]

People assume the above, simply because they cannot get the idea how their computer system is flagged and banned with another account, soon after their previous account get banned.

But actually, Blizzard since decades use other legal methods to identify customers computers.

Anyone nearby 15-20 years ago, would remember that Blizzard used to store or integrate their games physical CD-Keys (There was no digital ones back then) inside the game installation files.

So once we wanted to move the installed game - Diablo 1/2, Starcraft/BroodWars etc to different computer, we were just moving the whole game folder, and the license was going with it.

We must be silly to not assume the same nowadays - that Blizzard is storing an unique identify key with each WoW installation, either in the install folder, or into their namespace in the Windows registry.

That way they are 100% legal into anonymously identifying the game clients, without storing actual customers personal details like Windows key, any hardware Ids etc.

Thank you for that concise answer. With that in mind has HB got any info to offer so that those traces can be removed?

 

[stuartroad]

Thank you for that concise answer. With that in mind has HB got any info to offer so that those traces can be removed?

my guess would be full uninstall and registry clean

 

[foam_follower]

my guess would be full uninstall and registry clean

My 2nd ban was instant, a matter of less than a day. I was on a newly built PC using a long inactive RAF account and a fresh install of WOW. 2*100s on the account and it had never been botted. I'd basically set things up on the bot during the first hour of activation and then gone to bed. The following afternoon I logged in, started the bot and queued up for a dungeon with the combat routine running in the background. Never actually did anything as I was banned before I got a dungeon finder group.

The only connection with my first ban was that it was on the same BNet. I haven't botted since.

 

[DracoBlaze]

I know Anet on GW2 take your HWID (Hardware ID), Computer name and IP, all of which can be changed. I wouldn't think Blizzard would be any different.

I would suggest changing your HWID and Computer Name and botting again. On every game I play I make out in a apart of a university campus which is why I maybe hacked or wrongfully banned.

 

[Aion]

I know Anet on GW2 take your HWID (Hardware ID), Computer name and IP, all of which can be changed. I wouldn't think Blizzard would be any different.

I would suggest changing your HWID and Computer Name and botting again. On every game I play I make out in a apart of a university campus which is why I maybe hacked or wrongfully banned.

To be strict, there is no technical therm, labeled Hardware Id (HWID).

In every computer, there is tons of hardware components, which have own very unique IDs, like HDD, SSD, Motherboard etc.

On the Windows systems, there is an unique Windows ID, created with the installation too: UID.

So, out of the web, different groups "label" as HWID different stuff, any of these above, which quite uniquely identify certain machines - usually the system HDD Id or the Windows UID.

 

[samantha]

Or you could just keep botting from the same computer?? Ive been botting since glider days, often selling gold and farming on large amoutns of accounts at once. I've never been insta flagged nor have I ever felt like ive been targeted.

I truely don't believe they go off hardware or anything else. They just ban the licence and may investigage any CURRENT accounts running off your IP/Battle.net. They don't perma flag anything.

 

[foam_follower]

I'm going to give it a go. Building a FX4300 with a GT750 & 4gb ram. Going to put it on x64 though in case I get some more memory. You'll know if I've been flagged if I file a BAN report lol. Wish me luck.

 

[Jiniix]

Please don't buy a five year old architecture and even older chipset, unless it's a really good deal. Can't imagine it being much cheaper than a Skylake i3/H110 combo. But good luck

 

[ryftobuddy]

I'm going to give it a go. Building a FX4300 with a GT750 & 4gb ram. Going to put it on x64 though in case I get some more memory. You'll know if I've been flagged if I file a BAN report lol. Wish me luck.

You can still buy systems like that? It seems more like something you'd find in a garbage dump.

As Jiniix said, you'd be much better going off going with slightly newer tech than that.

 

[foam_follower]

You can still buy systems like that? It seems more like something you'd find in a garbage dump.

As Jiniix said, you'd be much better going off going with slightly newer tech than that.

Who said anything about "Buy"? Oh yeah, that guy who keeps getting banned for making stupid comments. I'm simply recycling old bits from dead PCs that people no longer want or need. I give them away to local kids who don't have the luxury of owning their own PC. They never seem to complain. It certainly helps them with there school work at the very least. But then again I forgot, you seem to be an arrogant know-it-all who just loves to make these kind of stupid comments. Well done sir, bravo.

 

[Aion]

Who said anything about "Buy"? Oh yeah, that guy who keeps getting banned for making stupid comments. I'm simply recycling old bits from dead PCs that people no longer want or need. I give them away to local kids who don't have the luxury of owning their own PC. They never seem to complain. It certainly helps them with there school work at the very least. But then again I forgot, you seem to be an arrogant know-it-all who just loves to make these kind of stupid comments. Well done sir, bravo.

We all do remember ryftobuddy's recent activity here, but do not overreact so arrogant, please.

This time he was obviously trying to help.

Keep in mind, 95% of the people here have no idea what exactly is inside their computer case.

But words like "Building a FX4300 with GT750" always makes red alert on the remaining 5% of the community!

 

[LNS]

I read on the tripwire thread that accounts are flagged by Windows Key and Hardware I.D. I'm fairly sure that's unlikely with regard to flagged Windows Key but Hardware I.D? Any information here would be appreciated.

Regarding the Windows Key, I have 3 PCs all using the same shared key (Triple Windows 7 upgrade from XP). They were all upgraded to windows 10 last year. Flagging a Windows Key would flag all of my gaming PC's.

Not sure why you are asking this. Its is trade secrets. So all you will get is speculation, and that will not fill the hole in your tummy. A question you might like to ask google is. Can you change your hwid in a VM!

 

[junkkiller]

To be strict, there is no technical therm, labeled Hardware Id (HWID).

In every computer, there is tons of hardware components, which have own very unique IDs, like HDD, SSD, Motherboard etc.

On the Windows systems, there is an unique Windows ID, created with the installation too: UID.

So, out of the web, different groups "label" as HWID different stuff, any of these above, which quite uniquely identify certain machines - usually the system HDD Id or the Windows UID.

actually you are wrong a bit AION , the windows installation kinda makes a list of the hardware you have on your pc and creates something called "hardware hash" usually thats how pc manufacturers (DELL , HP, ETC..) activate your windows license.
i know from when i worked at DELL that pcs that came with windows 8 had some kind of hardware hash flashed on the mobo and thats how the windows 8 instalation would activate , in case a customer had to replace his mobo for any reason then we would need to send him also a new "serial" to activate his windows with

 

[foam_follower]

actually you are wrong a bit AION , the windows installation kinda makes a list of the hardware you have on your pc and creates something called "hardware hash" usually thats how pc manufacturers (DELL , HP, ETC..) activate your windows license.
i know from when i worked at DELL that pcs that came with windows 8 had some kind of hardware hash flashed on the mobo and thats how the windows 8 instalation would activate , in case a customer had to replace his mobo for any reason then we would need to send him also a new "serial" to activate his windows with

Something similar to an old proposal like Paladium?

 

[Aion]

actually you are wrong a bit AION , the windows installation kinda makes a list of the hardware you have on your pc and creates something called "hardware hash" usually thats how pc manufacturers (DELL , HP, ETC..) activate your windows license.
i know from when i worked at DELL that pcs that came with windows 8 had some kind of hardware hash flashed on the mobo and thats how the windows 8 instalation would activate , in case a customer had to replace his mobo for any reason then we would need to send him also a new "serial" to activate his windows with

Its nothing new, junkkiller.

Lots of professional software used to have different hardware identified with their customer, so upgrading/changing part of the computer system would need their support to resolve the locked software.

My point was, that HWID is not technical therm with regulated background behind the acronym, but its more like collective abbreviation on various techniques, used by the companies to protect their IP.