First answer to Activision Blizzard Lawyer / Antwort auf Klageschrift

[chickenl]

if hb wins it just means that blizz will work on detecting it

 

[fr3357]

Blizzard can only sue so far before it becomes frivolous. And I say before the courts make a decision there should be a contingency plan in place to avoid losing ALL rights of the code of HB2/GB2, GB... Something should be released before the decisions are made by the courts to give the code over to a trusted source... And just restart it in another manner. Blizzard owns the game NOT HB. HB is a external source/company.

It's like making a part on a car... I can sell it in any manner that I wish... I CREATED IT. Even if it has the same philosophy of a already made part but with my modifications... And they can't come and say it's BMW's because BMW created the part/car first... It doesn't entitle them to SHIT!!! If that was the case, I guess we owe the caveman and his family for making the wheel. Think about it.


It's a software component that only interfaces with the main game. It is not modifying anything. That's how they can win. Blizzard HAS to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt... I don't give a shit what anyone says is AMERICAN law... it has to apply in GERMANY... And as far as I know (Working for Daimler myself) Germans don't fuck around. This will be a quick/solid decision. I think that they should simply up and move countries and let Blizzard chase em... Then wtf is Blizz gonna do? Store the software/source where copyright laws DON'T apply. Simple as can be.

Its called a patent and it is sold to other companies and they pay a premium to manufacture stuff that works with the original creator

 

[fr3357]

you fail, do not pass go , do not collect $200

This made me lol, its like alot of 13 year old kids are posting in here. HB infringes on blizzards ToS. It is not legal, the only thing it has going for it is where the case will be tried and the law surrounding it. Do not think for a moment blizzard losing this case means they pack up and say oh well guys we tried... Blizzard cares alot about negatiting botting they will continue to persue it... at all costs... just will cost them more and they will come down harder on everyone.

 

[Owneth]

This made me lol, its like alot of 13 year old kids are posting in here. HB infringes on blizzards ToS. It is not legal, the only thing it has going for it is where the case will be tried and the law surrounding it. Do not think for a moment blizzard losing this case means they pack up and say oh well guys we tried... Blizzard cares alot about negatiting botting they will continue to persue it... at all costs... just will cost them more and they will come down harder on everyone.

fr3357... BULLSHIT. It's German law now. American law does not apply unless it's through a international agreement. Legality in any court case is first and foremost. There is SO MANY wrongful law suits filed "legally" that end up being unconstitutional. And in Germany...it will be swift process and decisions will be made. fr3357... Your posts sounds condescending and you sound like you side with Blizzard... If that's the case...I wonder why you are even in a botting community in the first place??? Let alone buying a subscription to something you don't support... So stop being a troll and a thread baiter. Thanks!

For those who aren't complete morons:

Original computer programs are author's intellectual properties are protected by the law. No other criteria, particularly of a qualitative or aesthetic nature, shall be applied to determine their eligibility for protection. Computer programs can be in any form, including the programming language it is written in. Ideas and principles are protected.
Copyright infringement is a crime in Germany. The penalty can be imprisonment for up to five years or a fine. No specific amount is given. The injured party shall be compensated.

[h=4]Foreign Nationals[/h]Works (including computer programs) originated by foreign nationals are protected by copyright law, if the work is published in Germany.
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This might help too:
Copyright law of Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sailleana]

Richtig geil zu lesen trotzdem, einfach herrlich womit sich die Anw?lte und Gerichte besch?ftigen m?ssen

 

[chemical]

This made me lol, its like alot of 13 year old kids are posting in here. HB infringes on blizzards ToS. It is not legal, the only thing it has going for it is where the case will be tried and the law surrounding it. Do not think for a moment blizzard losing this case means they pack up and say oh well guys we tried... Blizzard cares alot about negatiting botting they will continue to persue it... at all costs... just will cost them more and they will come down harder on everyone.

Hmm , i suppose you didn't read the post before that. maybe you need to re read your own post. making up your own words and all..

 

[S_o_M]

HB/Bossland and the Bot'Community loses anyway because if Blizzard wins HB is gone, if Bossland wins Blizzard will put so much effort in detecting bots and programmes like that. botting wont be the same after 28th of february. Hope you can archieve the Success or atleast to stave of the verdict Im quite new to the bot and havent archieved my goals yet.

 

[silverwow]

ooohhh!!!

 

[Bayoya]

HB/Bossland and the Bot'Community loses anyway because if Blizzard wins HB is gone, if Bossland wins Blizzard will put so much effort in detecting bots and programmes like that. botting wont be the same after 28th of february. Hope you can archieve the Success or atleast to stave of the verdict Im quite new to the bot and havent archieved my goals yet.​

uuuh?

 

[fukked]

HB/Bossland and the Bot'Community loses anyway because if Blizzard wins HB is gone, if Bossland wins Blizzard will put so much effort in detecting bots and programmes like that. botting wont be the same after 28th of february. Hope you can archieve the Success or atleast to stave of the verdict Im quite new to the bot and havent archieved my goals yet.

where did u get that date? February 28th?

 

[cdmichaelb]

if Bossland wins Blizzard will put so much effort in detecting bots and programmes like that. botting wont be the same after 28th of february.

Don't you think if blizzard could do that, they would be already? Instead of trying to sue/c&d 500(Exaggeration) companies across the world?

 

[Optiimus]

Don't you think if blizzard could do that, they would be already? Instead of trying to sue/c&d 500(Exaggeration) companies across the world?

Win? its true, if they wanted to stop botting they would have done more on there end to detect them, instead they cant so they are trying to hit the nail head on by shutting down each of them.

 

[Optiimus]

Don't you think if blizzard could do that, they would be already? Instead of trying to sue/c&d 500(Exaggeration) companies across the world?

Win? its true, if they wanted to stop botting they would have done more on there end to detect them, instead they cant so they are trying to hit the nail head on by shutting down each of them.

 

[Optiimus]

damn double post -.-

 

[S_o_M]

Dont you think its much easier to just kill the developers tools instead of let a team of worker exploring to detect bots or find hints to detect them to stop every bot which all may have different coding etc? Because to put them down they have always the same shit for the lawyer's no matter how they are written , they just say against our terms.

 

[reddewman]

So why will botting not be the same after the 28th of February?

 

[S_o_M]

You have 2 solutions:

Blizzard wins -> Bot gone for that moment.
Blizzard loses -> Only way to stop it -> more protection , let a team develope a better detection etc.

you know?

so for you = no HB
or
a lot more dangerous using with HB

 

[cdmichaelb]

Dont you think its much easier to just kill the developers tools instead of let a team of worker exploring to detect bots or find hints to detect them to stop every bot which all may have different coding etc? Because to put them down they have always the same shit for the lawyer's no matter how they are written , they just say against our terms.

No, if honorbuddy is "Killed" somebody else will pop up to fill the void.
Did killing Glider stop botting? Nope, hello honorbuddy.

 

[S_o_M]

No, if honorbuddy is "Killed" somebody else will pop up to fill the void.
Did killing Glider stop botting? Nope, hello honorbuddy.

Thats not what i said Because there will always be a Bot with different Scripting or whatever you can call that, that Blizz wont ever be able to detect them all. They just sue every Bot because its much easier they just have to write: they use programmes against our terms. Thats why working on detection is less effective than just sue everyone.

 

[cdmichaelb]

Thats not what i said Because there will always be a Bot with different Scripting or whatever you can call that, that Blizz wont ever be able to detect them all. They just sue every Bot because its much easier they just have to write: they use programmes against our terms. Thats why working on detection is less effective than just sue everyone.

Unless everyone fights back like honorbuddy is. You'd think because glider got shut down, it would be easy for blizz to shut down HB, but it isn't really that simple. If it's prevented in Germany, bot makers will move their base to russia or china or wherever, it'll never end.