Enough is enough. Nav Petition

[petrieslastword]

Cannot agree with you there, they are friendly, and they have the right to protect their product, but i just dont think that this is the way either. It will get *****ed either way, and we, paying customer will have a worse product than the pirates that got it for free...

Responding with "2" when I email them about the server issues during my trial is not friendly. It doesn't even tell me anything, it makes me assume it was a mistakenly sent email. Apparently it means we are extending your trial 2 days. Would it have been so hard for this supposed friendly staff to say "we will be happy to extend your trial for 2 days", so I'd actually have known?

I'm glad some of you have been treated well and had a pleasurable experience. Some of us have not.

All it would take is someone actually acting like they gave a shit about these issues. Instead we get brushed aside.

 

[SkyCrown]

All valid points posted here by all.

In the weeks to come Hawker shared more meshes will be on our desktop. Translation, more stability shared with our desktops combined with the benefits of a central server - which will provide updates on the fly.

We are all on the cutting edge of something that will in time, be more then we can imagined or hoped for.

The kicker for now is to realize this is an ever evolving project, is not finalized yet, and not by any means static.

 

[DroidFanBoyJP]

Responding with "2" when I email them about the server issues during my trial is not friendly. It doesn't even tell me anything, it makes me assume it was a mistakenly sent email. Apparently it means we are extending your trial 2 days. Would it have been so hard for this supposed friendly staff to say "we will be happy to extend your trial for 2 days", so I'd actually have known?

I'm glad some of you have been treated well and had a pleasurable experience. Some of us have not.

Alright, this is a dev driven products, forums, and customer support. You want them to work on their bot, work on your singular issue with super clarity, and talk to you on the forums? Man, you guys sure are needy, is this the generation coming up now, you guys so used to WoW handing you things, that that is how it works everywhere?

 

[jakieb]

I don't get what every one's problem is. We are all using the same program. I have had very little issues since I bought it four days ago. I look at the guides and read many thread about things and now everything works fine. The longest I have let it run is for 5 hour straight and it has done so multiple times.

 

[petrieslastword]

All valid points posted here by all.

In the weeks to come Hawker shared more meshes will be on our desktop. Translation, more stability shared with our desktops combined with the benefits of a central server - which will provide updates on the fly.

We are all on the cutting edge of something that will in time, be more then we can imagined or hoped for.

The kicker for now is to realize this is an ever evolving project, is not finalized yet, and not by any means static.

I really do wish I'd had your experience with this. Instead I've received short, incomplete response, and then told I'm simply wrong for my opinion when disregarded. It's unfortunate. One word responses to support email? Are you serious?

Alright, this is a dev driven products, forums, and customer support. You want them to work on their bot, work on your singular issue with super clarity, and talk to you on the forums? Man, you guys sure are needy, is this the generation coming up now, you guys so used to WoW handing you things, that that is how it works everywhere?

No, it's been multiple issues. I'm simply responding to this assertion that the email staff is "friendly".

I want to be able to use the product I paid for. I've barely been able to do so for the last 5 days or so, and it has been on their end.

 

[Epics]

I really do wish I'd had your experience with this. Instead I've received short, incomplete response, and then told I'm simply wrong for my opinion when disregarded. It's unfortunate. One word responses to support email? Are you serious?

You seem to be incredibly butthurt about that one word response. Let's see what you sent them, and we'll think about their response.
Dodge my post more btw, bud.

 

[Newborn]

you paid for a newly released bot, not for a 100% working amazing bot! this bot is getting amazing every day don't get me wrong.. but people keep saying OH BOT SUCKS LALALALA FALALALA.. .REFUND FALALA PINK UNICORNS LALALALALALALAL

shut up stop moaning... the devs are only human and they will fix it.. just like how honorbuddy is... just give it time... patients is key.


FINE REFUND ALL YOU WANT KID!


AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THE BOT BECOMES MORE STABLE... SO STABLE YOUR LITTLE BITCH ASS WONT COMPLAIN! YOU WILL NEED TO PAY MORE, AND THE REST OF US WHO CARES ABOUT DEMONBUDDY AND THE DEVS AND THE COMMUNITY GET IT FOR LESS CAUSE WE ARE PATIENT LIKE A SAINT AND YOU'RE and unpaitent... little moaning kid! I've been here, and used honorbuddy amazing bot... good enough for me I started using it when honorbuddy was out for awhile so It was pretty much AFK 24/7 if you want to be a little annoying whining person so be it.

 

[Kickazz006]

Nav will be serverside, end of story

feel free to complain about, if that helps you cope with it.

If you use our products, you will have to have an active connection to the nav server

Now, the nav server is usually pretty good... look at honorbuddy, it does great. Give us a little bit of time to work out the bugs; you guys bought the sessions at a discount - hopefully in the next few days we'll iron out more issues and squash some more bugs. There's a ton of people submitting bug reports; the more we get, the more we'll fix stuff. As far as nav - we're adding some logic right now to compensate for various issues

 

[quadriplegicbotting2farm]

Sorry, I'll make a list below of what one mere server mishap has caused.
- Lack of grasp on the concept of "DRM"

Not really. Elaborate on that. Or you think server-side forced features are not protecting their intellectual property? So you just could reverse it and cache the navigation by yourself. DMCA anyone? Oh, you?re not in the US? Neither am I.

- Angry people who have to reset bots? Really? All you have to do is end process of Demonbuddy and launch, tick off plugins and press start. That takes mere seconds.

If you want babysit or restart often go bot with AHK or autoit. Or not because even then can unstuck and relog properly.

- False accusations about nav server, as the new server has been up for THREE DAYS! Give them a break, they don't need endless rants about how one crash will make their users QQ.

restart DB - we've reset the nav server

Don?t shoot your own feet

P.S, Someone did ask for a refund.
Derp.

You?re slower than a quadriplegic.

 

[petrieslastword]

You seem to be incredibly butthurt about that one word response. Let's see what you sent them, and we'll think about their response.
Dodge my post more btw, bud.

I'm not "butthurt", I'm simply saying that I don't see this "friendly" "helpful" staff people are talking about.

I have no problem posting what I said:

I posted a topic here:

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...t-its-time-just-sitting-there.html#post559573

but thought I'd also email and see about the possibility of having my trial extended a day or 2. As it stands I paid to try your product, and my impression is currently, it isn't working at all. Your mod claims it will be fixed, but you could see where I wouldn't want to pay for the promise it will be fixed, when my initial impression is it simply does not function. Hopefully you can see where I'm coming from, and have a great day.

And the supposed "friendly" staff responded with a "2". They should try acting like they actually give a shit about their customers. Apparently that's what many have gotten. I have not.

With a product like this, it's pretty important you actually trust the business and staff. that's not the impression they are giving me. It's unfortunate.

 

[quadriplegicbotting2farm]

As far as nav - we're adding some logic right now to compensate for various issues

Thanks for the answer.

 

[AutomaticCoding]

i've had no issues all day

your full of shit OP

>>569799

 

[Newborn]

Not really. Elaborate on that. Or you think server-side forced features are not protecting their intellectual property? So you just could reverse it and cache the navigation by yourself. DMCA anyone? Oh, you?re not in the US? Neither am I.

If you want babysit or restart often go bot with AHK or autoit. Or not because even then can unstuck and relog properly.


Don?t shoot your own feet

You?re slower than a quadriplegic.

read my comment kid... refund... use hellbuddy, and any other bot the fact is you will get banned, you know nothing.. you have never used the rest of the products they have for sale like honorbuddy guess what? 5 85's kid... this is a new game, new bot.. they will be bugs and they will be fixed they always do.

 

[Epics]

Not really. Elaborate on that. Or you think server-side forced features are not protecting their intellectual property? So you just could reverse it and cache the navigation by yourself. DMCA anyone? Oh, you?re not in the US? Neither am I.

- Open source API
- Public profiles
Having literally one thing privatized =/= drm

If you want babysit or restart often go bot with AHK or autoit. Or not because even then can unstuck and relog properly..

Babysit? I've let mine run freely since .95
Check out this.
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...tines-plugins/55866-plugin-auto-relogger.html
Works a charm, nice COMMUNITY effort that could persist thanks to DB not privatizing their API (DRM, right?)

Don?t shoot your own feet

I never meant that it was up for the three days, I meant that the server itself has been swapped to the new server which has been existing for three days. Obviously I wouldn't say that if I'm the one who posted that it was down, derp.

You?re slower than a quadriplegic.

Mad cause I'm right or something, I swear.

I'm not "butthurt", I'm simply saying that I don't see this "friendly" "helpful" staff people are talking about.

I have no problem posting what I said:

I posted a topic here:

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...t-its-time-just-sitting-there.html#post559573

but thought I'd also email and see about the possibility of having my trial extended a day or 2. As it stands I paid to try your product, and my impression is currently, it isn't working at all. Your mod claims it will be fixed, but you could see where I wouldn't want to pay for the promise it will be fixed, when my initial impression is it simply does not function. Hopefully you can see where I'm coming from, and have a great day.

And the supposed "friendly" staff responded with a "2". They should try acting like they actually give a shit about their customers. Apparently that's what many have gotten. I have not.

With a product like this, it's pretty important you actually trust the business and staff. that's not the impression they are giving me. It's unfortunate.

That is an inappropriate response, but not worthy of flaming the staff in at least 5+ posts about it as far as I've seen your posts lately.

 

[quadriplegicbotting2farm]

read my comment kid... refund... use hellbuddy, and any other bot the fact is you will get banned, you know nothing.. you have never used the rest of the products they have for sale like honorbuddy guess what? 5 85's kid... this is a new game, new bot.. they will be bugs and they will be fixed they always do.

You just implied ahk and autoit will be banned? Reading what you said and how you said makes me come to the conclusion you?re a retarded fanboy. No more food to the trolls as I got the answer I wanted.

 

[Newborn]

You just implied ahk and autoit will be banned? Reading what you said and how you said makes me come to the conclusion you?re a retarded fanboy. No more food to the trolls as I got the answer I wanted.

Lol kid that made no sense... and you really got to learn to read..

This is the only bot with anti-warden all other bots will get you banned.. you're the retard here sir.. go back to your hole where you once crawled from the world isn't ready for a retarded little kid, who claims to be mr know it all but in fact knows nothing.

 

[hellbot87]

this thread is pointless, I agree the bot has problems, atm there is a work around to the navi side wp thing you just make the waypoints shorter i believe, for now it works until they can fix the navi server.

 

[quadriplegicbotting2farm]

- Open source API

You even know what open source is?

Having literally one thing privatized =/= drm

Wrong. This is DRM. DRM is fine for me as long as it doesnt hurt the paying customer as many games have been doing, even single-player ones.

 

[Epics]

You even know what open source is?


Wrong. This is DRM. DRM is fine for me as long as it doesnt hurt the paying customer as many games have been doing, even single-player ones.

It doesn't. It does the opposite.

Yeah, I do. They may not share their methods of obtaining their loop, statics and final classes, but giving us the ability to execute them is pretty damn close to open-source there champ.

 

[Newborn]

You even know what open source is?


Wrong. This is DRM. DRM is fine for me as long as it doesnt hurt the paying customer as many games have been doing, even single-player ones.

if you're so smart fix it? you seem like you know what's going on so talk to the devs and fix it.