does the bigred ciggarc cause bans?

[Radonic]

Donating... B Profiles... Ciggarc... WIN?

 

[supermofo]

You know the saying, go big or go home.

Example:
You been botting 3 accounts for 1-2 months 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. Then finally all banned today!

Imagine the same duration since there hasn't been much bans posted for awhile:

You been botting 3 accounts for 1-2 months 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Then finally all banned today!

The outcome is still the same, but the profit margin gap is huge. No one knows if botting less or more will trigger bans/flags, but if you bot at all, you have a risk of getting banned (Banned % is unknown). Always bot with the mindset, i'm going get banned, so go all out. So when you do get banned, you won't be surprised =).

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[Mr.Chin]

I actually disagree with this.
When I played D3 by hand, I had a farming route that I used every game.
All of my friends did the same.
What actual player uses a different order every game?
I don't think profile order would make a difference tbh.

You are so wrong. Doesnt matter how human play. Just trying to not get noticed by warden. Doing the same run so many time over and over on same profile by thousands of person is stupid. When I play with my friends in D3 we play map random to get 5 stack and then do tower in order to Cyadea, or A1 we play random map and then do butcher run. Nobody play the same run thousands times the same way. You need to put random in. Even if you no want it, may other person do.

 

[cdmichaelb]

You are so wrong. Doesnt matter how human play. Just trying to not get noticed by warden. Doing the same run so many time over and over on same profile by thousands of person is stupid. When I play with my friends in D3 we play map random to get 5 stack and then do tower in order to Cyadea, or A1 we play random map and then do butcher run. Nobody play the same run thousands times the same way. You need to put random in. Even if you no want it, may other person do.

Warden has nothing to do with profiles... and I know plenty of people who run the same route over and over, by hand, and don't do random dungeons because they are random and can be a waste of time.

 

[Bottletorch]

You are so wrong. Doesnt matter how human play. Just trying to not get noticed by warden. Doing the same run so many time over and over on same profile by thousands of person is stupid. When I play with my friends in D3 we play map random to get 5 stack and then do tower in order to Cyadea, or A1 we play random map and then do butcher run. Nobody play the same run thousands times the same way. You need to put random in. Even if you no want it, may other person do.

I used to play the same runs all the time. I used to sell runs carrying 3 people on Act 3 on a specific route. I never break my routes. People on d2jsp that used to sell/are selling runs now always follow specific routes. What you and your friends do is not an absolute truth and frankly is incredibly inefficient in the whole farming game.

 

[GCire]

You are so wrong. Doesnt matter how human play. Just trying to not get noticed by warden. Doing the same run so many time over and over on same profile by thousands of person is stupid. When I play with my friends in D3 we play map random to get 5 stack and then do tower in order to Cyadea, or A1 we play random map and then do butcher run. Nobody play the same run thousands times the same way. You need to put random in. Even if you no want it, may other person do.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on warden...... Please DO explain to me how warden works...

 

[Mr.Chin]

Warden has nothing to do with profiles... and I know plenty of people who run the same route over and over, by hand, and don't do random dungeons because they are random and can be a waste of time.

You no understand at all. Warden looking for bot like pattern, not individual profile. So when a thousands person run same profiles in same order over and over it become obvious. Random make for no pattern, much more harder to pinpoint.

 

[supermofo]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on warden...... Please DO explain to me how warden works...

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[GCire]

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[Mr.Chin]

What you and your friends do is not an absolute truth and frankly is incredibly inefficient in the whole farming game.

Waypoint in, kill elite TP back to town, do next area. As long as you know where elites are what difference it make what order you do map in??

 

[Bottletorch]

You no understand at all. Warden looking for bot like pattern, not individual profile. So when a thousands person run same profiles in same order over and over it become obvious. Random make for no pattern, much more harder to pinpoint.

Where are you getting this from? Fortune cookies? And computers cannot simulate true randomness, so there will be patterns unless it's an extremely complex algorithm. Even then it'll just be more difficult to place a pattern, not necessarily impossible (I pulled this out of my ass, I can be honest about the BS I spit).

 

[Bottletorch]

Waypoint in, kill elite TP back to town, do next area. As long as you know where elites are what difference it make what order you do map in??

And who in the world actually just get 5 stacks NV and hits Cydea again? Oh you guys.

 

[Mr.Chin]

computers cannot simulate true randomness, so there will be patterns unless it's an extremely complex algorithm.

Does no need to be true random. Just need not to be so much stupid and do the same exact thing over and over thousands time in a row.

 

[supermofo]

Oh mang what haz it become now :d

 

[Polyester]

You no understand at all. Warden looking for bot like pattern, not individual profile. So when a thousands person run same profiles in same order over and over it become obvious. Random make for no pattern, much more harder to pinpoint.

you have no idea what youre talking about :|

 

[supermofo]

you have no idea what youre talking about :|

Nop he's completely right on.

 

[devious21]

Occam's Razor.
In laymen's terms: the simplest solution is the best solution.
Why would blizzard try detect a pattern in zone clearing order, and then have to sort through all of the legitimate players that run that same order?
Why not simply take ONE of the profiles, take the coordinates, and then see who is hitting those coordinates with 80% confidence and investigate them?
It's pretty clear (to me, anyway) that Blizzard isn't even bothering to do that, or we'd all be banned. They don't want to waste the resources to track every players movements (yet)

I understand why you think randomizing profiles is beneficial, and it is certainly possible to implement, I just don't think in the grand scheme of things it's a big help.
If there's a LOT of people interested then maybe I'll add a donator version that runs profles in a different order, and see if radonic wants to implement a 'randomize profiles' option into the next pre-release of RadsAtom (don't hold your breath on that one).
I really don't see the point though. Why look at 12 pieces of the puzzle when you can investigate one? It's just not rational.

 

[GCire]

You no understand at all. Warden looking for bot like pattern, not individual profile. So when a thousands person run same profiles in same order over and over it become obvious. Random make for no pattern, much more harder to pinpoint.

Waypoint in, kill elite TP back to town, do next area. As long as you know where elites are what difference it make what order you do map in??

Does no need to be true random. Just need not to be so much stupid and do the same exact thing over and over thousands time in a row.

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IF you are able to code this and possibly make a profile for this to work, PLEASE DO SHARE IT!

You might want to do some research prior claiming such idiotic "facts".

 

[Mr.Chin]

you have no idea what youre talking about :|

No, you just too dumb to understand simple statistics. You need to go back to school, but you probably go to American school and only learn how to throw baseball and eat cheeseburger.

 

[GCire]

No, you just too dumb to understand simple statistics. You need to go back to school, but you probably go to American school and only learn how to throw baseball and eat cheeseburger.