Does anyone bot on MP10?
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My barb does but only with a specific spec:
WW
Rend+Heal
Sprint
Shouts
And he's a barb :X (para 100helps a bit too)
His gear is long into the billions now... been working on him for a long time.
Average seems to be around 4 deaths/hour
Personally, since I change it to MP10 I haven't went back. I was doing MP7 for a while for how easy it was but this spec is very comfy and I don't have room to upgrade my gear without spending 500mil+ for 1 piece so I finally kicked it up
WW
Rend+Heal
Sprint
Shouts
And he's a barb :X (para 100helps a bit too)
His gear is long into the billions now... been working on him for a long time.
Average seems to be around 4 deaths/hour
Personally, since I change it to MP10 I haven't went back. I was doing MP7 for a while for how easy it was but this spec is very comfy and I don't have room to upgrade my gear without spending 500mil+ for 1 piece so I finally kicked it up
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I've recently started doing MP9 with my barb. It's better, sure, but maybe not significantly better. It's quite inefficient in several ways: The bot will end up having to kill an elite pack at the end of a dungeon if there is one around. Same goes for when your gear is broken, it will kill the elite pack before repairing. You'll still die a lot from fallen maniacs, despite having high res/armor. Occasional stucks will lead to repeated deaths, because it's likely you'll die before the bot figures out it's a bad path.
However, when everything is going at least semi-well, I still get around 2.8 legendaries per hour. And that's over a 10 hour period.
As far as gear goes. I think I spent a couple hundred mil on most of my pieces. I'm not quite sure if the lacuni/inna's pants combination is the best for the rend build, so that's something I could possibly improve on. Those two pieces don't give a whole lot of survivability. I could perhaps even get a witching hour instead of the IK belt, because I'm using a skorn with 5%+ lifesteal. I just don't know.
My gear definitely isn't bad though, I feel. 200k unbuffed DPS with 680 all res and 5700 armor and 95k life (almost 9% lifesteal). Another thing that could boost my EHP/survivability is getting a nice pair of ice climbers with movement speed, so I can get rare pants/bracers. But those are really expensive.
I wouldn't suggest this to anyone with a budget below 1.5b though. But if you want your bots to make more money, this might be an option. This way you can save money by not getting another demonbuddy auth code/another copy of the game/upgrading your pc.
Most of my "normal" bots average 1.5 legendaries per hour. That's a ~80% increase in legendary farming efficiency. If you believe that your money comes from legendaries only, then, it might be worth it. You find less gold per hour (including repair costs) and probably fewer tomes/gems though. So it's never going to be "~80% better". Even if it's "only" 50% better, it can still be a viable option. 30 euros for another game + 25 for another auth key, higher CPU usage, or investing ~50 euros in gear. Probably worth it if you have a P100 barb and you're at the max bots for your PC, and still want to "grow".
Decisions, decisions!
However, when everything is going at least semi-well, I still get around 2.8 legendaries per hour. And that's over a 10 hour period.
As far as gear goes. I think I spent a couple hundred mil on most of my pieces. I'm not quite sure if the lacuni/inna's pants combination is the best for the rend build, so that's something I could possibly improve on. Those two pieces don't give a whole lot of survivability. I could perhaps even get a witching hour instead of the IK belt, because I'm using a skorn with 5%+ lifesteal. I just don't know.
My gear definitely isn't bad though, I feel. 200k unbuffed DPS with 680 all res and 5700 armor and 95k life (almost 9% lifesteal). Another thing that could boost my EHP/survivability is getting a nice pair of ice climbers with movement speed, so I can get rare pants/bracers. But those are really expensive.
I wouldn't suggest this to anyone with a budget below 1.5b though. But if you want your bots to make more money, this might be an option. This way you can save money by not getting another demonbuddy auth code/another copy of the game/upgrading your pc.
Most of my "normal" bots average 1.5 legendaries per hour. That's a ~80% increase in legendary farming efficiency. If you believe that your money comes from legendaries only, then, it might be worth it. You find less gold per hour (including repair costs) and probably fewer tomes/gems though. So it's never going to be "~80% better". Even if it's "only" 50% better, it can still be a viable option. 30 euros for another game + 25 for another auth key, higher CPU usage, or investing ~50 euros in gear. Probably worth it if you have a P100 barb and you're at the max bots for your PC, and still want to "grow".
Decisions, decisions!
Hi Napoleon, despite being well geared, my bots only average anywhere from 0.40 to .65 legendaries per hour. How do you average 1.50 per hour?
My bots run 24/7 and the stats are from 24/7 statistics.
All of my bots have 0 deaths average. Barbs have 300k damage unbuffed. Monks are 120k damage unbuffed. Most have 700k GPH. Farming MP0
My bots run 24/7 and the stats are from 24/7 statistics.
All of my bots have 0 deaths average. Barbs have 300k damage unbuffed. Monks are 120k damage unbuffed. Most have 700k GPH. Farming MP0
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Can you be a little more specific? I'm wondering what are the specific skills / runes + passives
Thanks so much
@Xuther,
One thing that hampered my bots' performance was setting the FPS too low. Mine is at 20 now, and the bots are working nicely. Could be something to address.
Another thing might be the profile you're using. I'm using Tinnkaizer 0.8. Works very well. Most of my bost run MP0/MP1. All my bots are P100 though. All have 24% movement speed bonus.
Let me know if something is out of the ordinary
One thing that hampered my bots' performance was setting the FPS too low. Mine is at 20 now, and the bots are working nicely. Could be something to address.
Another thing might be the profile you're using. I'm using Tinnkaizer 0.8. Works very well. Most of my bost run MP0/MP1. All my bots are P100 though. All have 24% movement speed bonus.
Let me know if something is out of the ordinary
Guys Guys..what about skipping elites ? Ofc you wont get any significant improvement if you boot mp10 all kill everything. Things are going pretty slow that way so the performance is bad. Elites on mp10 are slow and hard to kill ... plus ..Legendaries drop chance of normals is higher than elites monsters after all.
My opinion is .. if you have good geared bot with pretty good survival stats .. the only thing that makes sense is boting mp10 by skipping elites. It's true that you wont have any Nephalem Valor buffs .. but i think that is compensated by the bunuses we get boting in mp10 itself.
One more very important thing: Soon 1.0.8 will be available. It comes with new farming zones. Act1 will be far more efficient than act3 and gues what..elites in act1 are fucking easy to skip or kill (at least in the area that i am thinking about in the moment).
My opinion is .. if you have good geared bot with pretty good survival stats .. the only thing that makes sense is boting mp10 by skipping elites. It's true that you wont have any Nephalem Valor buffs .. but i think that is compensated by the bunuses we get boting in mp10 itself.
One more very important thing: Soon 1.0.8 will be available. It comes with new farming zones. Act1 will be far more efficient than act3 and gues what..elites in act1 are fucking easy to skip or kill (at least in the area that i am thinking about in the moment).
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this is mine mp10 statistic
COtA profile
still working on gear
===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 28h 9,00m 4s
Total deaths: 18 [0,64 per hour]
Total games (approx): 385 [13,68 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0,00 million [0,00 million per hour]
===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 17438 [619,44 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 1037 [36,84 per hour] {5,95 %}
- ilvl59: 420 [14,92 per hour] {2,41 %}
- ilvl60: 2706 [96,12 per hour] {15,52 %}
- ilvl61: 5904 [209,72 per hour] {33,86 %}
- ilvl62: 4669 [165,85 per hour] {26,77 %}
- ilvl63: 2702 [95,98 per hour] {15,49 %}
Items dropped by quality:
- White: 5282 [187,63 per hour] {30,29 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 211 [7,50 per hour] {1,21 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 102 [3,62 per hour] {0,58 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 599 [21,28 per hour] {3,44 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 1738 [61,74 per hour] {9,97 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 1628 [57,83 per hour] {9,34 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 1004 [35,66 per hour] {5,76 %}
- Magic: 9454 [335,83 per hour] {54,21 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 634 [22,52 per hour] {3,64 %}
--- ilvl 59 Magic: 239 [8,49 per hour] {1,37 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 1612 [57,26 per hour] {9,24 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 3235 [114,91 per hour] {18,55 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 2416 [85,82 per hour] {13,85 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 1318 [46,82 per hour] {7,56 %}
- Rare: 2641 [93,81 per hour] {15,15 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 191 [6,78 per hour] {1,10 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 79 [2,81 per hour] {0,45 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 482 [17,12 per hour] {2,76 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 919 [32,65 per hour] {5,27 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 614 [21,81 per hour] {3,52 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 356 [12,65 per hour] {2,04 %}
- Legendary: 61 [2,17 per hour] {0,35 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 1 [0,04 per hour] {0,01 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 13 [0,46 per hour] {0,07 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 12 [0,43 per hour] {0,07 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 11 [0,39 per hour] {0,06 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 24 [0,85 per hour] {0,14 %}
Potion Drops:
Total potions: 377 [13,39 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 377 [13,39 per hour] {100,00 %}
Gem Drops:
Total gems: 163 [5,79 per hour]
- Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,02 %}
--- ilvl 60 Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,02 %}
- Topaz: 42 [1,49 per hour] {25,77 %}
--- ilvl 60 Topaz: 42 [1,49 per hour] {25,77 %}
- Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {28,83 %}
--- ilvl 60 Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {28,83 %}
- Emerald: 43 [1,53 per hour] {26,38 %}
--- ilvl 60 Emerald: 43 [1,53 per hour] {26,38 %}
===== Item PICKUP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items picked up: 2665 [94,67 per hour]
Item picked up by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 191 [6,78 per hour] {7,17 %}
- ilvl59: 78 [2,77 per hour] {2,93 %}
- ilvl60: 462 [16,41 per hour] {17,34 %}
- ilvl61: 931 [33,07 per hour] {34,93 %}
- ilvl62: 623 [22,13 per hour] {23,38 %}
- ilvl63: 380 [13,50 per hour] {14,26 %}
Items picked up by quality:
- Rare: 2605 [92,54 per hour] {97,75 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 190 [6,75 per hour] {7,13 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 78 [2,77 per hour] {2,93 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 449 [15,95 per hour] {16,85 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 919 [32,65 per hour] {34,48 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 613 [21,78 per hour] {23,00 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 356 [12,65 per hour] {13,36 %}
- Legendary: 60 [2,13 per hour] {2,25 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 1 [0,04 per hour] {0,04 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 13 [0,46 per hour] {0,49 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 12 [0,43 per hour] {0,45 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 10 [0,36 per hour] {0,38 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 24 [0,85 per hour] {0,90 %}
(note: 24 follower items ignored for being ilvl <60 or blue)
Potion Pickups:
Total potions: 67 [2,38 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 67 [2,38 per hour] {100,00 %}
Gem Pickups:
Total gems: 161 [5,72 per hour]
- Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,25 %}
--- ilvl 60 Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,25 %}
- Topaz: 41 [1,46 per hour] {25,47 %}
--- ilvl 60 Topaz: 41 [1,46 per hour] {25,47 %}
- Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {29,19 %}
--- ilvl 60 Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {29,19 %}
- Emerald: 42 [1,49 per hour] {26,09 %}
--- ilvl 60 Emerald: 42 [1,49 per hour] {26,09 %}
===== End Of Report =====
COtA profile
still working on gear
===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 28h 9,00m 4s
Total deaths: 18 [0,64 per hour]
Total games (approx): 385 [13,68 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0,00 million [0,00 million per hour]
===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 17438 [619,44 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 1037 [36,84 per hour] {5,95 %}
- ilvl59: 420 [14,92 per hour] {2,41 %}
- ilvl60: 2706 [96,12 per hour] {15,52 %}
- ilvl61: 5904 [209,72 per hour] {33,86 %}
- ilvl62: 4669 [165,85 per hour] {26,77 %}
- ilvl63: 2702 [95,98 per hour] {15,49 %}
Items dropped by quality:
- White: 5282 [187,63 per hour] {30,29 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 211 [7,50 per hour] {1,21 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 102 [3,62 per hour] {0,58 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 599 [21,28 per hour] {3,44 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 1738 [61,74 per hour] {9,97 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 1628 [57,83 per hour] {9,34 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 1004 [35,66 per hour] {5,76 %}
- Magic: 9454 [335,83 per hour] {54,21 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 634 [22,52 per hour] {3,64 %}
--- ilvl 59 Magic: 239 [8,49 per hour] {1,37 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 1612 [57,26 per hour] {9,24 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 3235 [114,91 per hour] {18,55 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 2416 [85,82 per hour] {13,85 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 1318 [46,82 per hour] {7,56 %}
- Rare: 2641 [93,81 per hour] {15,15 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 191 [6,78 per hour] {1,10 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 79 [2,81 per hour] {0,45 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 482 [17,12 per hour] {2,76 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 919 [32,65 per hour] {5,27 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 614 [21,81 per hour] {3,52 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 356 [12,65 per hour] {2,04 %}
- Legendary: 61 [2,17 per hour] {0,35 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 1 [0,04 per hour] {0,01 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 13 [0,46 per hour] {0,07 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 12 [0,43 per hour] {0,07 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 11 [0,39 per hour] {0,06 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 24 [0,85 per hour] {0,14 %}
Potion Drops:
Total potions: 377 [13,39 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 377 [13,39 per hour] {100,00 %}
Gem Drops:
Total gems: 163 [5,79 per hour]
- Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,02 %}
--- ilvl 60 Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,02 %}
- Topaz: 42 [1,49 per hour] {25,77 %}
--- ilvl 60 Topaz: 42 [1,49 per hour] {25,77 %}
- Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {28,83 %}
--- ilvl 60 Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {28,83 %}
- Emerald: 43 [1,53 per hour] {26,38 %}
--- ilvl 60 Emerald: 43 [1,53 per hour] {26,38 %}
===== Item PICKUP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items picked up: 2665 [94,67 per hour]
Item picked up by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 191 [6,78 per hour] {7,17 %}
- ilvl59: 78 [2,77 per hour] {2,93 %}
- ilvl60: 462 [16,41 per hour] {17,34 %}
- ilvl61: 931 [33,07 per hour] {34,93 %}
- ilvl62: 623 [22,13 per hour] {23,38 %}
- ilvl63: 380 [13,50 per hour] {14,26 %}
Items picked up by quality:
- Rare: 2605 [92,54 per hour] {97,75 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 190 [6,75 per hour] {7,13 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 78 [2,77 per hour] {2,93 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 449 [15,95 per hour] {16,85 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 919 [32,65 per hour] {34,48 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 613 [21,78 per hour] {23,00 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 356 [12,65 per hour] {13,36 %}
- Legendary: 60 [2,13 per hour] {2,25 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 1 [0,04 per hour] {0,04 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 13 [0,46 per hour] {0,49 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 12 [0,43 per hour] {0,45 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 10 [0,36 per hour] {0,38 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 24 [0,85 per hour] {0,90 %}
(note: 24 follower items ignored for being ilvl <60 or blue)
Potion Pickups:
Total potions: 67 [2,38 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 67 [2,38 per hour] {100,00 %}
Gem Pickups:
Total gems: 161 [5,72 per hour]
- Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,25 %}
--- ilvl 60 Ruby: 31 [1,10 per hour] {19,25 %}
- Topaz: 41 [1,46 per hour] {25,47 %}
--- ilvl 60 Topaz: 41 [1,46 per hour] {25,47 %}
- Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {29,19 %}
--- ilvl 60 Amethyst: 47 [1,67 per hour] {29,19 %}
- Emerald: 42 [1,49 per hour] {26,09 %}
--- ilvl 60 Emerald: 42 [1,49 per hour] {26,09 %}
===== End Of Report =====
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and i run without skipping the elites
its better
its better
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rrrix told in trinity .11 topic that with skipping the elites bot dont pickup a lot of loot if it drops near elites
and this problem still not fixed
Well..not sure if everyone else have that in mind.
lol...have to check that out. Thanks
"Ignore gold/non-leg items near Elites actually works now" is one of the main features in .11 .
In .12 i saw your temporally solution about missing loot quadrotony.
So..all of the above is true if "Skip elites" is unchecked ..but when it's checked bot still skips loot ?
In .12 i saw your temporally solution about missing loot quadrotony.
So..all of the above is true if "Skip elites" is unchecked ..but when it's checked bot still skips loot ?
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dont know
for me now more profiteble to run CotA with killing elites
i always craft items for my toons and need thousands of essences
for me now more profiteble to run CotA with killing elites
i always craft items for my toons and need thousands of essences
Yeah cota seems to be quite useful, this is my log for COTA, gonna see how good KD2 is for today / tomo btw deaths are from 10 second log from game and elite usually kills me during the time takes to log
===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 34h 32.00m 58s
Total deaths: 152 [4.40 per hour]
Total games (approx): 527 [15.25 per hour]
Total XP gained: 1655.49 million [47.92 million per hour]
===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 28952 [837.99 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 1776 [51.40 per hour] {6.13 %}
- ilvl59: 712 [20.61 per hour] {2.46 %}
- ilvl60: 4418 [127.87 per hour] {15.26 %}
- ilvl61: 9824 [284.35 per hour] {33.93 %}
- ilvl62: 7804 [225.88 per hour] {26.95 %}
- ilvl63: 4418 [127.87 per hour] {15.26 %}
- Legendary: 87 [2.52 per hour] {0.30 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 1 [0.03 per hour] {0.00 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 12 [0.35 per hour] {0.04 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 11 [0.32 per hour] {0.04 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 20 [0.58 per hour] {0.07 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 43 [1.24 per hour] {0.15 %}
- Rare: 3675 [106.37 per hour] {12.69 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 285 [8.25 per hour] {0.98 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 107 [3.10 per hour] {0.37 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 585 [16.93 per hour] {2.02 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 1286 [37.22 per hour] {4.44 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 885 [25.62 per hour] {3.06 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 527 [15.25 per hour] {1.82 %}
btw deaths are from 10 second log from game and elite usually kills me during the time takes to log===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 34h 32.00m 58s
Total deaths: 152 [4.40 per hour]
Total games (approx): 527 [15.25 per hour]
Total XP gained: 1655.49 million [47.92 million per hour]
===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 28952 [837.99 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 1776 [51.40 per hour] {6.13 %}
- ilvl59: 712 [20.61 per hour] {2.46 %}
- ilvl60: 4418 [127.87 per hour] {15.26 %}
- ilvl61: 9824 [284.35 per hour] {33.93 %}
- ilvl62: 7804 [225.88 per hour] {26.95 %}
- ilvl63: 4418 [127.87 per hour] {15.26 %}
- Legendary: 87 [2.52 per hour] {0.30 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 1 [0.03 per hour] {0.00 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 12 [0.35 per hour] {0.04 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 11 [0.32 per hour] {0.04 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 20 [0.58 per hour] {0.07 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 43 [1.24 per hour] {0.15 %}
- Rare: 3675 [106.37 per hour] {12.69 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 285 [8.25 per hour] {0.98 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 107 [3.10 per hour] {0.37 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 585 [16.93 per hour] {2.02 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 1286 [37.22 per hour] {4.44 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 885 [25.62 per hour] {3.06 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 527 [15.25 per hour] {1.82 %}
Don't you worry that the number of elites killed in your account will rise significant and with that the chance of your account getting flagged ? There are proportions elite kills <---> game play time , that scream BOT BOT BOT. Even a regular player could say that. That's the main reason stopping me to bot COTA.
