Do we want Guild Wars 2 bot? [Poll]

[sparks]

I think you need to look at rift.
500,000 beta and first release.
Tough protection.

now its WAY down on registration (no one knows for sure. private co) but they have very few servers and most are low population so its L O W
They went from beta saying we don't care about pvp only. We want all things to be great...NO NOW pvp rules everything decision wise and pve is just some grind and grind and grind bs.
They change and nerf daily, basically after a year they are still saying we don't have a Fing clue and don't care.

So why pump in a lot of work and time and then cancel the buddy project.

I think it will be the same with GW2. I played 1 and it got real bad real quick. They nerfed daily and had a girl and frog telling us why.
They make money on expansions and they were POOR DESIGN. Looked like crap and maybe took a week for them to make.

 

[Sephy]

I think it will be the same with GW2. I played 1 and it got real bad real quick. They nerfed daily and had a girl and frog telling us why.
They make money on expansions and they were POOR DESIGN. Looked like crap and maybe took a week for them to make.

Hmm, I must say, don't even try to compare GW1 to GW2. They are not the same game at any level.
It would be like compairing Final Fantasy 7 to Final Fantasy 12. They are not the same game or even have the same combat system.
Or feel.

Otherwise, I maybe thinking lets see how Guild Wars 2 starts. As the majority have voted.
GW2 and Tera Online are not going to be the "traditional Wow killer." One of them might succeed in very large way.
Since they have done thing very much differently than any other MMO in the market atm.

 

[Anegus]

The in game real money currency has a gold-gem conversion in game. That means rich people will be able to buy gems and buy things, F2P will be able to farm gold and buy gems off the market.

So I say definitely. There may not be a huge market for selling gems outside the normal channels, but you never know you might be able to undercut the going Arena.net rate to someone to cash out Gems.

 

[banme]

I played the Beta all weekend and I for one am quite excited about it. I have spend 6 years on Wow and tried just about every premium bot out there. I have also invested a lot of time into SWTOR. I have been using Gatherbuddy since long before HB even existed. I was a Glider member from very early days, from before Pather even existed.

I can understand how some people might be worried about the amount of time spent on the development of HB. They obviously love HB so much and get so excited by new features that it is difficult to wait. These are also the same people that have resorted to botting (so they can see the value in not sitting around doing mindless tasks when a bot could do it for them).

HB is also the most mature and most supported product by the buddy team. So I can see why some people would be worried that resources that could be used to support/improve HB are being used on other products that may or may not succeed. (I lost 2 accounts via detection with the now defunct Ryftomate - Cest la vie).

But what kick says is right. HB is not subscription based, a one off purchase gets you use of the program for the forseeable future. WOW subscription numbers are steadily declining (Tho it will still be the most popular and most successful MMO for a long time) I also hazard a guess that the number HB purchases for new customers is also declining. The buddy team would be silly to not diversify and develop other products so they remain profitable. So a lack of income is going to be a much bigger problem to HB development rather than dev time spent on other products. So Bring on Buddy Wing, bring on Guild-o-Matic (the obvious name choice for GW2 bot ) and just Shut up and take my money already!!!

As for dificulty of combat rotations, CCs etc with GW2. Sure it would be difficult to code CCs that would be as affective as a real player. We have been very spoilt with the likes of Singular and Felmaster etc etc. But these have had years of development. Gatherbuddy started off with you needing to put your mount spell/macro on quickslot 4, your spam attack on 1 and was reliant on cast order macros to get a serviceable dps rotation. We have come a long way baby. with the right spec for each class, there are perfectly viable rotations for solo play. A Guardian is a 1 man dps/tanking/self healing machine. Ranger with a bear and a greatsword is EZmode. And seeing that CCs have always had massive crowdsource development, never underestimate the imagination/innovation of the collaborative.

Yes Guild Wars 2 is fun and not a boring grind, but the prospect of gathering mats while I sleep/work/study/socialize so that I can amass wealth to be used in the Gem market to make my playing time even more enjoyable. Bring it on!!!!!!!

 

[k4ne]

I'm wondering how they do it. I mean, a game without a monthly subscription. Wouldnt it cost money to update/patch the game and keep servers up etc?...
What the hell?

League of legends ? How many players spend more than 20, 30$ per month in a FREE TO PLAY game ? A LOT.
Free to play (well, GW is not a freeplay because you have to buy the game but i imagine that you will be able to buy a lot of extra content, much more than the "1 mount every 6 months" Blizzard system) is the most profitable economic model. That's why Blizzard is introducing a real money AH. There will be more and more games without subscriptions.

Warcraft 3, Diablo 2, Starcraft: No subscription, no extra content, but they still need people to update/patch and keep servers up.

 

[sparks]

I am not saying do NOT make a GW2 bot or not even test out the game from a bot perspective.
I am saying don't jump in and make a bot then drop it a few months later.
( Yep I tried Rift because there was a bot and I got banned )
do I blame HB ....NO they said use at your own risk we are in beta.
>>and the chrs were banned NOT MY ACCOUNT so I didn't loose anything but some time...No biggie it was fun while it lasted
Then after that they quit development.
I don't know how much time and money they spent testing but it was very short lived.

I just don't want to say oh look 600,000 beta testers...free trial does not say how many will buy or play
It has X and everyone will want it...like Rift it had X Y and Z but after a couple of months all the fun was changed and changed and changed until MOST quit
So I hope they wait and see, BUT I do hope they do some looking and planning and we don't see 4 bots out before they even look at it.

Since wow is going pokemon and my little pony with pandas its time to find something different.
maybe GW2 won't be all about everyone being the same and dumb down so much its a game for 12 year olds ( before you flame me ) I am saying that is what their market is trying to move to to regain the lost people.
I AM NOT SAYING everyone who plays is a 12 year old.

can't believe I have not seen a thread like this for D3 yet.

 

[webhond]

NO WE FUCKING DONT WANT A GW2 BOT. HB has taken enough of a development nosedive by spreading the team out too thin working on other bullshit games. That's all they need is to take someone else off the HB project to work on another game that's going to be a failure.

this ^^ /thread

 

[Dagradt]

@Sparks,

In all honesty D3 is a game where you WILL want to play it by hand. The storyline is great, and the combat is just way too easy to be lazy enough to have a bot for it, lol.

 

[Anegus]

@Dagradt Perhaps for the game, but this is really about making money or automating. So D3 would be highly botted, I mean they are including a means to cash out in the game itself. Why wouldn't you bot the hell (no pun intended) of that? Diablo Ching if you ask me...

 

[white_boy8869]

At first I was talking alot "shit" about guild war 2. But after seeing the amount of effort they have been putting into it. I really think I will play it on the fact that it's Buy the game and play forever. No subs to pay. And I think that's why alot of newer MMO's fail is, people are already paying for WoW and don't want to pay 15 more a month to play another. Not because it's a bad game it's all about the money. If SWTOR would go free to play I would start up again. But I don't want to spend anymore money on a game. So that's why I will be playing D3 and GW2. No subs make's me happy.

This is exactly how I feel and view it. GW2 will be alright imo, but just like Tera I think it will conform to a certain genre of player and not be bot worthy. (Tera will probably be bot worthy seeing how it is a Korean grind war)

Quote Originally Posted by likwid818 View Post
NO WE FUCKING DONT WANT A GW2 BOT. HB has taken enough of a development nosedive by spreading the team out too thin working on other bullshit games. That's all they need is to take someone else off the HB project to work on another game that's going to be a failure.

And this. I agree. SWTOR is an overall shit game missing many endgame components of a great MMO even if it IS just starting off. The start of SWTOR was simlar to Rift, everyone max leveled then got extremely bored and quit.

Creating a bot to do something simple is one thing, coding a bot to do EVERYTHING like in WOW or SWTOR is a whole nother story as we should be able to tell by the current dev'd SWTOR bot.

I cant see a diablo3 bot being too difficult to code, but I am not counting on HB to come up with it. I am confident another provider will have it readily available before HB. (Not saying I would not use HBs if they made one since I trust their products.)

 

[soundwarcraft]

Having a bot for Gw2 would be great. I mean come on. I love gaming as much as the next guy, but lets be honest here. I wont farm for my mats after using HB on WoW. Haven't farmed by hand since well probably a year ago. And I don't plan on starting in a new game either.

Gogogoo! Make it happen Kick!

 

[thanman]

Botting for myself and i am sure a lot of other people is like a sub culture. I have gw2 on preorder and a bot would be awesome. Lol i wasnt even planning on getting diablo 3 until i saw the bot. I was like ooooh. So yeah now inc diablo 3 lol. Oh even had a friend push me a trial swotr just to mess with the beta bot!

Most of the time I enjoy the botting more than the games.

 

[kasia]

No, i dont need GW bot, better focus on HB wich is stuck in developing progres because of too many bots, i know you have many temas but dome people are involved in many projects.

 

[Dagradt]

@Kasia,

Calling the Paid or Unpaid Dev's "Dumb" would not be the best of choices... You just like to flame anywhere you can huh?

 

[Koalemos]

Botting for myself and i am sure a lot of other people is like a sub culture. I have gw2 on preorder and a bot would be awesome. Lol i wasnt even planning on getting diablo 3 until i saw the bot. I was like ooooh. So yeah now inc diablo 3 lol. Oh even had a friend push me a trial swotr just to mess with the beta bot!

Most of the time I enjoy the botting more than the games.

Ain't that the truth

 

[hi1674]

No, since it seems they have more bots than current crew can maintain .

(Not meant in a bad way)

 

[whatcha413]

No we do not........Have them working on 5 different bots = Honorbuddy still not bug free or the other bots they come out with wont be bug free.....

 

[whatcha413]

u mad bro?

take a chill pill. HB is fine... but we need more income since we don't charge a subscription

more income ? for what HB does they made wayyyy more than enough money......Not like its a actual job so anything over 1,000$ is good enough income lol

 

[timotyman]

more income ? for what HB does they made wayyyy more than enough money......Not like its a actual job so anything over 1,000$ is good enough income lol

Cant tell if troll, or truly stupid.

It takes a lot of code and time to constantly keep a bot running, and considering they don't charge a subscription, most of their income from honorbuddy is depleted.
Just try and appreciate the effort it takes to actually get a quality bot or any program running.