germanicus
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Background
I've been playing & botting poe for 3~ weeks. I know some of you have been doing this forever and this might not be any new information. I just wanted to discuss some of the things I've tried and the results of each and possibly discuss with experienced or other new players.
In these couple of weeks I've botted 4 level 90~ builds: Cyclone Juggernaut, Bladeflurry Assassin, Flameblast Elementalist and Vaal Spark Inquisitor.
Again, I'm pretty new to poe so my criteria for choosing these so far have been watching some videos and looking at the fun factor and clear speed.
But before any discussion I guess we have to reconcile our goals.
Botting Objectives
I've thought of some potential objectives that someone who bots exilebuddy might have, including my own. Feel free to add to this.
I have to say my own goal aligns with the third objective. So for me this discussion means discovering a build that can achieve decent clear speed, even at higher level maps, and not dying so much that your xp gain is 0, even with chicken.
Common Issues
Below are my own experiences with the build I mentioned above, feel free to keep reading, discuss and add your own experiences. Again I picked these without knowing much about the game, and looking at the results only.
Cyclone Juggurnaut
Bladeflurry CI Assassin
Flameblast Elementalist
Crit spark/vaal spark Inquisitor
Crit spark/vaal spark Inquisitor - t2 map chaos recipe farming
Let me know what you think, of any tools I could use to improve efficiency, your own builds etc. Thanks!
I've been playing & botting poe for 3~ weeks. I know some of you have been doing this forever and this might not be any new information. I just wanted to discuss some of the things I've tried and the results of each and possibly discuss with experienced or other new players.
In these couple of weeks I've botted 4 level 90~ builds: Cyclone Juggernaut, Bladeflurry Assassin, Flameblast Elementalist and Vaal Spark Inquisitor.
Again, I'm pretty new to poe so my criteria for choosing these so far have been watching some videos and looking at the fun factor and clear speed.
But before any discussion I guess we have to reconcile our goals.
Botting Objectives
I've thought of some potential objectives that someone who bots exilebuddy might have, including my own. Feel free to add to this.
- You run multiple instances of exilebuddy and just want a relatively fast clearing, non expensive, easy to maintain build that works on its own consistently
- You run just 1 instance of exilebuddy and just want to earn additional currency while you're not playing yourself. Clear speed might be important but you're not too concerned that the bot survives higher maps
- You find botting fun, just like min maxing in the game itself, and you want to see how much the bot can actually do.
I have to say my own goal aligns with the third objective. So for me this discussion means discovering a build that can achieve decent clear speed, even at higher level maps, and not dying so much that your xp gain is 0, even with chicken.
Common Issues
- Not moving out of breach skills: i.e. fire tornado and lightning orb. I noticed that the default bot and Alcor75PlayerMover does not move out of breach skills. Please let me know if there is something else out there that does this. For now, either having enough life leech or something like one cast of vaal discipline will outlast these skills once, afterwhich hopefully it is recharged or you don't sit in another one.
- Not moving out of normal postmortem effects: Such as when the mobs explode in various ways after death. Chicken deals with this if you have enough health pool.
- Breach performance: Sometimes it gets so bad in the breach your character just doesn't do anything or does things too slow. I've taken the suggestions to reduce the number of rules in AIF and this seems to have helped.
- Backtracking: This may not be an issue at all, please correct me if I'm wrong. I know the bot by default explores a certain % of the map then goes to the boss room. Sometimes it appears this leads to backtracking, which wastes time with respect to the clearspeed objective. Not sure if there is a way to make it do the boss room as it finds it, and continue on exploring.
Other than that I haven't had too many issues common to all the builds I've tried. Some of them I've had to fiddle with a lot to get the behaviour how I want it, i.e. timing of vaal skills, but I find if you put enough effort into this its not a huge problem.
Also the bot will run into unexpected situations from time to time. Chicken works most of the time for this, unless there is huge burst damage. It would be nice if we could specify chicken by threshold and/or % of pool damage taken per period time, but not sure if that is do-able. A lot of builds run cwdt + immortal call anyway
Below are my own experiences with the build I mentioned above, feel free to keep reading, discuss and add your own experiences. Again I picked these without knowing much about the game, and looking at the results only.
Cyclone Juggurnaut
Build: Forum - Marauder - [2.5 Video Guide] Beginners "End-Game-Viable" Tanky Cyclone Build - Path of Exile
Setup: CycloneCOC routine found on forums with vaal haste added, Alcor75PlayerMover with leap slam and ignore mobs on, no kitine.
Results: Tier 9-10 maps with clear time of 6~ minutes each, and positive xp gain. This is not super high end gear, 6 link atziri's disfavor is probably most expensive item.
Pros: Good survivability, good leech as long as there are things to hit, clear speed is not bad.
Cons: The cyclone routine is nice but its hard to emulate human behaviour of moving through mobs. Slow clearing against single targets like bosses.
Setup: CycloneCOC routine found on forums with vaal haste added, Alcor75PlayerMover with leap slam and ignore mobs on, no kitine.
Results: Tier 9-10 maps with clear time of 6~ minutes each, and positive xp gain. This is not super high end gear, 6 link atziri's disfavor is probably most expensive item.
Pros: Good survivability, good leech as long as there are things to hit, clear speed is not bad.
Cons: The cyclone routine is nice but its hard to emulate human behaviour of moving through mobs. Slow clearing against single targets like bosses.
Bladeflurry CI Assassin
Build: Forum - Shadow - [2.5 Video Guide] Assassin CI Blade Flurry End-Game Build! [HC/SC] - Path of Exile
Setup: BladeFlurry routine found on forums modified with vaal haste and discipline, Alcor75PlayerMover with shield charge, no kitine.
Results: Tier 9-10 maps with clear time of 5-6 minutes each, and positive xp gain. Uses Bino dagger, Herectic's Veil, and lions roar + atziri's promise for survival and more damage. Could be better with better gear
Pros: Good survivability, good leech, decent clear speed.
Cons: Not as fast in terms of moving to a group of mobs, stopping to clear, and moving on. Can probably get better with + attackspeed
Setup: BladeFlurry routine found on forums modified with vaal haste and discipline, Alcor75PlayerMover with shield charge, no kitine.
Results: Tier 9-10 maps with clear time of 5-6 minutes each, and positive xp gain. Uses Bino dagger, Herectic's Veil, and lions roar + atziri's promise for survival and more damage. Could be better with better gear
Pros: Good survivability, good leech, decent clear speed.
Cons: Not as fast in terms of moving to a group of mobs, stopping to clear, and moving on. Can probably get better with + attackspeed
Flameblast Elementalist
Build: Forum - Witch - [2.5] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast) - Path of Exile
Setup: Flameblast routine found on forums, modified to summon 2 different golems, cast orb of storms for cursing on hit, vaal discipline. Alcor75PlayerMover with flamedash and kitine
Results: Tier 11 maps with clear time of 7~ minutes each, and positive xp gain. Relatively cheap gear, Doryani's Catalyst
Pros: Massive damage, decent clear speed, decent survivability with vaal discipline
Cons: Doesn't move very fast, can be inefficient with flameblast choices, i.e. channeling more than necessary for single targets. These things you can customize yourself though.
Setup: Flameblast routine found on forums, modified to summon 2 different golems, cast orb of storms for cursing on hit, vaal discipline. Alcor75PlayerMover with flamedash and kitine
Results: Tier 11 maps with clear time of 7~ minutes each, and positive xp gain. Relatively cheap gear, Doryani's Catalyst
Pros: Massive damage, decent clear speed, decent survivability with vaal discipline
Cons: Doesn't move very fast, can be inefficient with flameblast choices, i.e. channeling more than necessary for single targets. These things you can customize yourself though.
Crit spark/vaal spark Inquisitor
Build: Forum - Templar - [2.5.1] Fyndel LL Vaal Spark build 100m xp/h 6 days lvl 100 - Path of Exile
Setup: Default oldroutine, modified to cast vaal disc (my own addition just for safety), and vaal spark with some conditions on mobs around and shield percentage. Alcor75PlayerMover with shield charge and kitine
Results: Tier 9 maps around 3:50~ clear speed. Can go higher but I'm waiting for a few more passive points. Expensive with skyforths, shav, vinktar and crit+spellpower dagger and shield.
Pros: Massive area damage, great clear speed, moves very fast.
Cons: Vaal spark timing behaviour. I've added a bunch of conditions to try to emulate human behaviour but in the end it is see mobs -> cast spell. Would be nice to take advantage of dashing to mobs not on screen while vaal spark is going off. Survivability is ok. I think if you go with a different take on the same build you might be able to take burst easier. This build does not run immortal call.
Another issue is getting stuck on corners and strongboxes and not being able to hit anything, but chicken solves this however at a cost to efficiency.
Setup: Default oldroutine, modified to cast vaal disc (my own addition just for safety), and vaal spark with some conditions on mobs around and shield percentage. Alcor75PlayerMover with shield charge and kitine
Results: Tier 9 maps around 3:50~ clear speed. Can go higher but I'm waiting for a few more passive points. Expensive with skyforths, shav, vinktar and crit+spellpower dagger and shield.
Pros: Massive area damage, great clear speed, moves very fast.
Cons: Vaal spark timing behaviour. I've added a bunch of conditions to try to emulate human behaviour but in the end it is see mobs -> cast spell. Would be nice to take advantage of dashing to mobs not on screen while vaal spark is going off. Survivability is ok. I think if you go with a different take on the same build you might be able to take burst easier. This build does not run immortal call.
Another issue is getting stuck on corners and strongboxes and not being able to hit anything, but chicken solves this however at a cost to efficiency.
Crit spark/vaal spark Inquisitor - t2 map chaos recipe farming
Build: Forum - Templar - [2.5.1] Fyndel LL Vaal Spark build 100m xp/h 6 days lvl 100 - Path of Exile
Setup: Default oldroutine, modified to cast vaal disc (my own addition just for safety), and vaal spark with some conditions on mobs around and shield percentage. Alcor75PlayerMover with shield charge and kitine. Went with voidwalker boots and Assassin's mark for better Divination Distillate uptime. 2 MF rings with 45%+ iir 10% iiq, 45+iir amulet. Switched one of the vaal spark support 6ls for item rarity support
Results: Tier 1-3 maps around 2:30~ clear speed. Up to 11 chaos recipes per hour consistently.
Setup: Default oldroutine, modified to cast vaal disc (my own addition just for safety), and vaal spark with some conditions on mobs around and shield percentage. Alcor75PlayerMover with shield charge and kitine. Went with voidwalker boots and Assassin's mark for better Divination Distillate uptime. 2 MF rings with 45%+ iir 10% iiq, 45+iir amulet. Switched one of the vaal spark support 6ls for item rarity support
Results: Tier 1-3 maps around 2:30~ clear speed. Up to 11 chaos recipes per hour consistently.
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