Death Vader - Woohoo

[Xcesius]

Been a follower of your routine for a while now and cheers for your work, but got a bit of a facepalm when i got raped in dps by another DK in bluegear last night (i got ilvl 495) so i tested Bloodys routine and almost doubled my output ^^
I've read your tread and ppl say they get the most out the DK with your routine but i just cant get the crank out of it.
Got the last svnupdate and pretty much go with stocksettings, 2h, frost... With Bloodys i hold ~90k dps on dummy and with Vader i level out at ~50k.
Got any setupsugestions for the routine that im missing?

Regards/ Sado

I'll look into it.

Were you using Tyrael with 40 TPS and Lockselector ON? This rotation is basically useless without framelock

 

[Xcesius]

Added Blood Tap support for DW DK.

 

[Pasterke]

[20:17:23.329 N] Character is a level 90 Pandaren Monk
[20:17:23.330 N] Current zone is Shrine of Two Moons

Mate, this shows your character is a Monk... this CR is for Death Knights only. If you started Honorbuddy while logged into another character, it will not work. Please close all sessions of honorbuddy and start a new session when logging into another character.

Don't matter what your character is. If you put this routine in your routines folder and you start HB, then you get those errors when HB compile the routines.

 

[wakkawakka22]

Don't matter what your character is. If you put this routine in your routines folder and you start HB, then you get those errors when HB compile the routines.

Hrm idk, I run a BAT file before HB that clears compile and I never get this

 

[Xcesius]

Copying this from the PR thread.

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Combat ressing is very hard to do with any class. I target a player to ressurect and CR immediately re-targets enemy - big problem in raiding.

No log, but all the time and only when using the CR for Blood DK I get lag spikes in game. This almost never happens with Frost or any other class.
I havent tested in raid, but when playing single, BLOOD DK does not use Horn ever. Frost sometimes opens with Unholy Blight and not with Outbreak. UB is much better to be kept at the start. Often adds come out shortly after and there is its use.
Which rotation is best for Frost DK? I am using the default one (PVP) and I dont see any difference with others. Also, I am not wrong UH FB rotation should use attack power procs to apply strong deseases. I don't see this happening. I tested on Horridon heroic and my desease dmg is far below SS dmg, even tho I am dpsing adds most of the time (info is before switching to Jelak fulltime). Also did some tests on dummy - same thing. I have JK hc trinket. Tests with DV UH CR on dummy also result in far less dps than Frost. UH kinda keeps up with Frost when there is AOE, but single target dps is far lower. This should not be the case. Over 525 ilvl UH should be doing better.

Is pala healing getting fixed fixed? As I wrote before CR does not use any AOE healing spells. If a log is all it takes, I will kill Sha a couple of times and you will see there is no AOE healing.

AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS GREAT CR!

TLDR:
I really care mostly about DK DPS rotations, other stuff is just good to have for me.

I just want to point out that regardless of "new trinkets" in 5.4, FB is most likely dead. The small dps gain over time isn't worth it

It's Blizzard that's trying to kill FB because they don't see the rotation as fit as a "normal" rotation. They are trying to make up for the mistakes by for instance removing dot damage gained by "Tricks of the Trade" in a hotfix.
The new trinkets doesn't benefit FB. When I see the proper math when 5.4 is released from the "pro" players, I'll consider it. But until then FB won't be supported.

I might however add :: Put plague strike / outbreak on target IF attack power is higher and I can put a larger and better dot on the current-target. ->
This will be added to the standard rotation as it is an "dps win" as you say. However I will consider adding Blood Tap support for Unholy and Frost Twohander when 5.4 hits.

BUT! I will never add supporting of fully FB because in my eyes that's a pretty much dead rotation due to the new trinkets arriving in 5.4 and blizzard wants to kill it, when I mean fully ->

Spamming Festering Strike until dot duration is -> 40-50+ seconds then Scouring Strike.

I'll be adding a focus thing for auto ress if the selected focus target is dead and we have raise dead available -> USE

 

[Strewdle]

What skills do i need selected and glyohs to maximize this CC? Because at 10 mill damage im doing just 60k dps so something i am doing or have selected is wrong.

 

[Xcesius]

What skills do i need selected and glyohs to maximize this CC? Because at 10 mill damage im doing just 60k dps so something i am doing or have selected is wrong.

Could you upload your log please.


Hmm, I see nothing wrong with it. I'll take a look at twohander again later today.

 

[Strewdle]

my ? is though do i have the right glyphs and such cause that may be a issue. i have since unlearned my talents and added just RE for now as i didnt have that before. that may help some. But what other talents do you use and glyphs? It also could be my gear and reforges. what site do u use for setting up your DK? all i know is before this previous patch i was doing 120k+ dps and after i have fallen to where i am, so im just trying to fix my guy.

 

[diablofan]

with this CC my 2h dk in frost pulls 75k and unholy only 60k. Full pvp gear. Is this normal ?So low for unholy ?

 

[deeluxejon]

with this CC my 2h dk in frost pulls 75k and unholy only 60k. Full pvp gear. Is this normal ?So low for unholy ?

Unholy is really trinket dependent for optimal dps...unless there is a bunch of adds ur dps will be lower than frost until you have the strength stacking trinkets at max and just keep rerolling the poision buff.

 

[KsuCoolCat]

I might however add :: Put plague strike / outbreak on target IF attack power is higher and I can put a larger and better dot on the current-target. ->
This will be added to the standard rotation as it is an "dps win" as you say.

Don't forget to add a throttle so it's not spamming plague strike while feathers are counting up =P

 

[Xcesius]

Don't forget to add a throttle so it's not spamming plague strike while feathers are counting up =P

It's going to be a preventdoublecast with 1 second delay. So it shouldn't spam, only when we can apply a stronger dot + 5000 AP

 

[phaedrus]

I have a problem with Empower Rune Weapon. I selected use it only at boss and it keeps using everytime..

 

[KsuCoolCat]

Shouldn't Unholy only use Unholy Frenzy if they don't already have a lust buff?

DV_Unholy.cs:125 should be changed to

(SG.Instance.Unholy.UnholyFrenzy == DvEnum.AbilityTrigger.OnBossDummy && U.IsTargetBoss[B][COLOR="#008000"] && !G.SpeedBuffsAura[/COLOR][/B]) ||

 

[Xcesius]

Shouldn't Unholy only use Unholy Frenzy if they don't already have a lust buff?

DV_Unholy.cs:125 should be changed to

(SG.Instance.Unholy.UnholyFrenzy == DvEnum.AbilityTrigger.OnBossDummy && U.IsTargetBoss[B][COLOR=#008000] && !G.SpeedBuffsAura[/COLOR][/B]) ||

No. It doesn't matter

 

[KsuCoolCat]

the speed buffs don't stack do they? so if they overlap, don't you effectively waste a 3 min cooldown?

 

[Xcesius]

the speed buffs don't stack do they? so if they overlap, don't you effectively waste a 3 min cooldown?

They do overlap since 5.0, you gain additional haste (about 10% more) I think it was

 

[KsuCoolCat]

so they stack instead of overlapping then? good to know...

 

[phaedrus]

I have a problem with Empower Rune Weapon. I selected use it only at boss and it keeps using everytime..

???

 

[Xcesius]

???

I can't find the similar issue :\ Make sure to use Hotkey is all I can say.


\*Unholy Updates\*

Added DoTTracker, where Plague Strike / Outbreak will apply stronger dots if we can.
* You can tweak the required attack power in the cc settings to override the currentdot on the target.
** You can also turn this on and off if you want, there's a setting for it.