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Crusader not using Phalanx

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hartleyrs02

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How can I enable my crusader to use Phalanx to kill Ghom? I tried editing the combat.cs file for crusader but it still won't work. Also tried searching forums, but I was not able to find any only one thread asking how to spam phalanx, but it remains unanswered. Please help.

Note: Even Condemn is not being used
 
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I asked a similar question 04 May 14 in the three musketeers topic and no response. Hopefully someone will action this:

Hi - fantastic product.
I'm now burning through Ghom (for a Crusader...) @50-75% through Akharat's on T4.
I've noticed a few issues as I have experimented with build:
1. When I used Phalanx (Bowman or Bodyguard) the bot/profile doesn't use it immediately and seems to wait until Ghom is about 50% down. I've substituted Bombardment Annihilate, but Phalanx would be give me more overall DPS during the fight.
2. Condemn. Similar to above (I have it set to one mob in combat mode), however it does doesn't automatically go off either.
3. Bags. I have it set to 1 empty spot before returning to town for bags, however it returns when only @66% full.
4. Do you have the ability to not use the potion if Akharat's is up? Ie Because it is a free life, the potion is wasted when it's used.
I've tried going into combat profile to explore why Phalanx and Condemn are delaying and I have no idea - there is no issue on Bounty or Campaign profiles.
I've even tried remapping the buttons as I noticed some only started delaying when I mapped them to different buttons, but no luck.
Appreciate your help - getting bowman to immediately work will allow me to push to T5.
Thanks again for an excellent product!
Last edited by Tank; 04.05.2014 at 14:49.
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hartleyrs02 said:
How can I enable my crusader to use Phalanx to kill Ghom? I tried editing the combat.cs file for crusader but it still won't work. Also tried searching forums, but I was not able to find any only one thread asking how to spam phalanx, but it remains unanswered. Please help.

Note: Even Condemn is not being used
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It's not using Phalanx at all? or only at certain range? I tried it and it activates vs Ghom but only on a 15f radius. what does your Crusadercombat Phalanx skill look like
 
JoshE said:
It's not using Phalanx at all? or only at certain range? I tried it and it activates vs Ghom but only on a 15f radius. what does your Crusadercombat Phalanx skill look like
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I found condemn was delayed about 5 secs and phalanx about 10. There is no crusadercombat phalanx skills. I reduced all distances/mobs # to 1 and still not working. Changed phalanx to meteor but it's only cycles once due to the CD's.
 
Tank said:
I found condemn was delayed about 5 secs and phalanx about 10. There is no crusadercombat phalanx skills. I reduced all distances/mobs # to 1 and still not working. Changed phalanx to meteor but it's only cycles once due to the CD's.
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distance to 1? O.o shouldn't you make it higher so it'll activate at better range
 
JoshE said:
distance to 1? O.o shouldn't you make it higher so it'll activate at better range
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Why does it matter? I'm standing on Ghom and it still takes 5 seconds to activate.

Ps. Condemn activation is based on mobs in range - not distance. So I changed it to activate when 1 knob, ie Ghom, Is in range.
 
I've updated trinity and it now casts phalanx and as Tank previously mentioned, the cast time of Phalanx has a delay. Tried editing as well still no luck though. It only casts when a few seconds after I've engaged Ghom (most likely when he's almost dead). I'm not entirely sure about Condemn. I tried using Condemn and Divine Well spam build but for my personal view, holy shotgun is faster. I'm fairly able to do t5 fast enough but not as fast as 55+ gph on t4.
 
hartleyrs02 said:
I've updated trinity and it now casts phalanx and as Tank previously mentioned, the cast time of Phalanx has a delay. Tried editing as well still no luck though. It only casts when a few seconds after I've engaged Ghom (most likely when he's almost dead). I'm not entirely sure about Condemn. I tried using Condemn and Divine Well spam build but for my personal view, holy shotgun is faster. I'm fairly able to do t5 fast enough but not as fast as 55+ gph on t4.
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Mine works OK. DB beta and Trinity 1.9.3 ||questools 2.0.51. My crusader casts phalanx as soon as he engages ghom and recast it whenever is off cooldown. Try to reinstall in a fresh new folder.
 
trophywife said:
Mine works OK. DB beta and Trinity 1.9.3 ||questools 2.0.51. My crusader casts phalanx as soon as he engages ghom and recast it whenever is off cooldown. Try to reinstall in a fresh new folder.
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Tried a fresh install. First, without touching anything (Trinity 1.9.2) and just simply running the combat routine. Second, updating the plugins again to the latest yet both yielding same results having a delay on Phalanx being cast.
 
Open \Trinity\Combat\Abilities\CrusaderCombat.cs and find where it says:

Code: 
                if (CanCastPhalanx())
                {
                    return new TrinityPower(SNOPower.x1_Crusader_Phalanx3, 45f, TargetUtil.GetBestClusterPoint(15f, 45f));
                }

Because Trinity operates on a priority-based rotation, so you need to move the position of this piece of the code to a place wherever is appropriate for your build.

In my specific case, my crusader is running a shotgun build but by default in Trinity Phalanx comes after Heaven's Fury which means it will never get casted until the wrath is completed exhausted and HF can no longer be casted.

The default priority queue is just assuming Heaven's Fury has a cool down and that's not the case with fate of the fell.

Same goes to other abilities I suppose..
 
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magicpork said:
Open \Trinity\Combat\Abilities\CrusaderCombat.cs and find where it says:

Code: 
                if (CanCastPhalanx())
                {
                    return new TrinityPower(SNOPower.x1_Crusader_Phalanx3, 45f, TargetUtil.GetBestClusterPoint(15f, 45f));
                }

Because Trinity operates on a priority-based rotation, so you need to move the position of this piece of the code to a place wherever is appropriate for your build.

In my specific case, my crusader is running a shotgun build but by default in Trinity Phalanx comes after Heaven's Fury which means it will never get casted until the wrath is completed exhausted and HF can no longer be casted.

The default priority queue is just assuming Heaven's Fury has a cool down and that's not the case with fate of the fell.

Same goes to other abilities I suppose..
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I changed the priority order, as suggested, and no change. It sits immediately after Akharat's and before bombardment now - still doesn't inititiate until @ 10 secs, and he is almost dead by then. Bombardment is immediate still.
 
Tank said:
I changed the priority order, as suggested, and no change. It sits immediately after Akharat's and before bombardment now - still doesn't inititiate until @ 10 secs, and he is almost dead by then. Bombardment is immediate still.
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hmm..not sure then..this fixes my problem..sorry it didn't help..
 
Knoedel said:
here is a working combat file for shotgun crusader + phalanx
have fun :D
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Nice, been helped alot on the forums the last few posts. Just found a new balefull with 10% cdr as well, t6 bounty+rifts running sweet now.
 
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Is this file for trinity? i dont know how to use this file
Can u help me?
 
I also have been, unfortunately, experiencing the same problem: my crusader is simply not using Phalanx when it is off CD, even if I select the option for it to do so. It seems that the issue above is correct: the bot is completely set on using Heavens fury before it, and I can't figure out how to edit the combat routine to fix the issue (not having much experience in programming in any way does not help). Worse, whenever try to insert the combat file for Trinity, it causes trinity as a plugin to completely vanish from Demonbuddy.

any advice or fix on this for someone without any coding experience?
 
can anyone link a profile for this setup
with gear / skills i should focus on grinding
thanks
 
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