Crashes/BSODs/Errors? How stable is D3+DB?

[Dbuddy]

Hi Guys,

i hope the dev's aren't mad because of this, i just want to collect some numbers about the stability of this game and botting.

I would like to announce that every discussion to this topic has it's place here:

Demonbuddy Support

And we are NOT talking about slight problems like some botting-loops, problems with profile etc.

Please mind that i am a HC Player and therefore the stability of the game is our No1 topic.
Roughly speaking, a SC Player doesn't mind 1 crash per day and won't even bother to contact the Support or opening a thread...
2 friends of mine also play HC and also have D3 Crashing Issues while botting. They stopped HC.

Lets see which numbers we get out of this poll...

greetings

 

[CodenameG]

if your getting BOSD's and crashing, theres something going on with your OS or your hardware thats causing that to fail, the bot wouldn't cause that.

 

[IeU]

sorry, but game does not crash when im playing manually, only crash with db. so . . .

BSOD/"auto restart" i agree with you, OS/Hardware related, mostly overheating. But D3 crash is not OS related (could be in some cases), bcse i can play d3 for hours without a crash, but as soon i load up DB, i can get a crash in minutes or within an hour.

 

[DavidKDean]

Hi Guys,

i hope the dev's aren't mad because of this, i just want to collect some numbers about the stability of this game and botting.

I would like to announce that every discussion to this topic has it's place here:

Demonbuddy Support

And we are NOT talking about slight problems like some botting-loops, problems with profile etc.

Please mind that i am a HC Player and therefore the stability of the game is our No1 topic.
Roughly speaking, a SC Player doesn't mind 1 crash per day and won't even bother to contact the Support or opening a thread...
2 friends of mine also play HC and also have D3 Crashing Issues while botting. They stopped HC.

Lets see which numbers we get out of this poll...

greetings

If your botting in HC some advice!: Thorns.... LOTS of Thorns.

 

[CodenameG]

sorry, but game does not crash when im playing manually, only crash with db. so . . .

BSOD/"auto restart" i agree with you, OS/Hardware related, mostly overheating. But D3 crash is not OS related (could be in some cases), bcse i can play d3 for hours without a crash, but as soon i load up DB, i can get a crash in minutes or within an hour.

i had ram go bad recently for no reason at all, it would screw up with it would heat up, and i would see stuff locking up, and apps that never crash (like skype and explorer) crashing. it was pretty bad. i had to replace 8gb of ddr3 it was really sucky.

 

[Dbuddy]

If your botting in HC some advice!: Thorns.... LOTS of Thorns.

i learned a bloody lesson with my latest botting attempts in HC...

Enchantress with 5,5k dam,
toon with 1,8k life reg and monk earth ally.

the equip wasn't that expensive...

the only thing that worries me, would be a bot that drives the toon by accident trough the whole map in inferno act1 without attacking.
but this hasn't happend by now...

anyways... about 6 botting-toons in HC - from lvl 20 to 60 - have died because of errors and BSOD's - on my brand new pc.
Changed every single component, even the mainboard and tested many many things, from heat to ram... still BSOD's and crashes from time to time.

No Crash when i play without bot.

 

[RaiProdigy]

I have not ever crashed once because DB. Let alone D3(Maybe besides launch night and the first week).

And im also using my PoS laptop that can barely run the game

 

[Sinenomen]

<- D3 crashes only with DB. And DB-Crashes, the char stays in game. Now i startet SC, HC makes no sense...

 

[l2bot-4ever1]

my db has never crashed before, its always the freezing/crashing d3 that screws it up, and the only reason i can come up with is because there are too many d3 clients running that uses the same battle.net folder in c/drive :/

 

[termite]

sorry, but game does not crash when im playing manually, only crash with db. so . . .

Exactly. And 54% experiencing crashes, to say this is hardware related sounds a bit like a fairy tale.

 

[andyt315]

anyways to fix crash d3 that with error key while running with db? im using it with isboxer now...sometimes it crashes with error key...don't know why

 

[hutnik]

Had all of the situations.
Stopping Sandboxie and Daemon tools services (didn't want to uninstall them in case I'll want to use them later) helped with BSODs.
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb..._run-helps-restarting-db-d3-periodically.html helped with DB and D3 freezes.
Only thing I'm missing now is some disconnect solution, because arelog don't want to work with AGB, and this batch file don't recognize disconnect :/

 

[Hellcom]

Retarded poll. Multiple choice where several of the choices are in conflict with each other and there's no option for "rarely crashes".

Reality is that DB set up right very rarely does crash, it does if you haven't set it up correctly, it most certainly does when you're testing different options, but on a general basis, it's very stable.

For instance, since release I've had maybe 15-20 crashes, that sounds like a lot, but it has all been connected to patch dates, wrong settings and similar.

For me, it's been completely AFKable 90% of the time, and by that I mean completely AFKable. Every single time once I get the settings / lootrules or whatever is causing the problems down, it runs smoothly for days after without a single crash. The crashes only occur right after D3 updates, profile updates, changing loot rules or DB updates.

In other words, 99% of all DB crashes are user error.

 

[IeU]

99% speculation.

I am a long time botter, i know actually what i am doing, i do not think i am missing anything here. Fresh DB install + 1 PlugIn, will crash on me, sometimes after 1 hour, sometimes 5 hours. And my DB never crashes, its D3, that does.
D3 never crashes when playing manually for 5+ hours. None of my others high taxing games crash, so i would in such case rule out hardware problems.

So i am left to believe that DB is the one causing D3 to crash. If not then something DB uses, Net4 or that Redistributable thingy . . .

I am going to reinstall .net the that c red win thingy, and see if something changes.

And, i am pretty sure i would get a "tests passed all ok" if i run that kernel lvl memtest for 10 hours . . . Bcse none of all my other applications, games and os crash at all, it is just D3 when i run DB.

 

[Marlhex]

99% speculation.

I am a long time botter, i know actually what i am doing, i do not think i am missing anything here. Fresh DB install + 1 PlugIn, will crash on me, sometimes after 1 hour, sometimes 5 hours. And my DB never crashes, its D3, that does.
D3 never crashes when playing manually for 5+ hours. None of my others high taxing games crash, so i would in such case rule out hardware problems.

So i am left to believe that DB is the one causing D3 to crash. If not then something DB uses, Net4 or that Redistributable thingy . . .

I am going to reinstall .net the that c red win thingy, and see if something changes.

And, i am pretty sure i would get a "tests passed all ok" if i run that kernel lvl memtest for 10 hours . . . Bcse none of all my other applications, games and os crash at all, it is just D3 when i run DB.

Big chance it isn't your memory causing the random D3 freezes/crashes. Just to be sure, i've ran memtest86 for a full night on all modules, and ran them 1 hour per RAM Module (4 modules of 4GB). None of them had any issue's. If it would be your RAM being broken, then i'm sure you would've experienced other errors and hang-ups and BSOD's.

 

[IeU]

Exactly. I am trying to rule out the cause of the crashing. Uninstalled D3, cleaned every track of it from my pc and now i am reinstalling it. Also redoing, (again, after the 10x time), the db install, a fresh one.

If you check the support forum, 25%+ of the threads there are bout, crashing D3, crashing DB and/or freezing D3 (in combination of running D3+DB)

I have a feeling that it has to do with x64_OS(+x64 Net4 +x64 Redistributable win thingy)

 

[Dbuddy]

In other words, 99% of all DB crashes are user error.

brandnew pc, fresh Win7 install, fresh D3 and DB install, everything updated, using the best profile available
-> at least 1 or 2 Crashes per day.

Yeah, thats NOT that much...

But it's much if the biggest part of the community also experiences the same crashes.
And my care-cup is full because i play HC... In SC i wouldn't even bother to start a poll like this or torture the devs...

The only retarded message is telling us that 99% of the problems are caused by the user.

This multiple-choice-poll ist 100 times more meaningful than your "99%" number.

1) if you got a problem with the poll -> do it better
2) if you got a problem that it's multiple choice -> just check the number above, it is exactly shown how many voters, so the poll is ok. Actually 60 voters and 7 of them are running D3+DB without crashes.

 

[jimjohnson]

Retarded poll. Multiple choice where several of the choices are in conflict with each other and there's no option for "rarely crashes".

Reality is that DB set up right very rarely does crash, it does if you haven't set it up correctly, it most certainly does when you're testing different options, but on a general basis, it's very stable.

For instance, since release I've had maybe 15-20 crashes, that sounds like a lot, but it has all been connected to patch dates, wrong settings and similar.

For me, it's been completely AFKable 90% of the time, and by that I mean completely AFKable. Every single time once I get the settings / lootrules or whatever is causing the problems down, it runs smoothly for days after without a single crash. The crashes only occur right after D3 updates, profile updates, changing loot rules or DB updates.

In other words, 99% of all DB crashes are user error.

50% of crashes are more likely DB not user error. Since we already know that DB gets out of sync with D3. How you can claim its user error, you must be a fan boy. It is a decent product with sub par support so far.

 

[swolbyn]

Retarded poll. Multiple choice where several of the choices are in conflict with each other and there's no option for "rarely crashes".

Reality is that DB set up right very rarely does crash, it does if you haven't set it up correctly, it most certainly does when you're testing different options, but on a general basis, it's very stable.

For instance, since release I've had maybe 15-20 crashes, that sounds like a lot, but it has all been connected to patch dates, wrong settings and similar.

For me, it's been completely AFKable 90% of the time, and by that I mean completely AFKable. Every single time once I get the settings / lootrules or whatever is causing the problems down, it runs smoothly for days after without a single crash. The crashes only occur right after D3 updates, profile updates, changing loot rules or DB updates.

In other words, 99% of all DB crashes are user error.

82.5% of all statistics are made up.

 

[scott123]

I have two computers running DB one with no problems and the other is a problem child. Game freezes, DB shuts down etc. No BSOD though