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CLU (Codified Likeness Utility)

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Nice! I'm running LFR at 30fps, because I get about 30-38fps in LFR with these settings:
1920x1200, everything set to max, except multisampling (set to 2x and not 8x) with an Intel i5-2500K (boosted to 3,4GHz) and a Radeon 6870 (stock).

Everywhere else I can sustain 60fps, but not in LFR. Could be caused by addons too, I don't really know.

It's too bad you can't use DX11 though with HB, that was even better regarding looks AND speed.
 
Well, i have had the same issue than Soeski. When I try to pause and restart, it freezes. I've been trying to make the disc spec work, but had not luck. It works in Heroics (to a certain degree, i have to manually select the targets because sometimes it stops smiting, and i have to manually select the players because sometimes it stops healing). But in raids, sometimes it remains idle for no reason... People take damage, and it doesn't do anything. So, these are the moments when i try to restart it... And it freezes HB, i have to kill the process from the windows task manager...
No other class behaves like this...
I'm actually trying to find a viable RAIDING CC for healing priests... At this point I don't care if it's Holy, Disc or whatever. I just need to be able to keep up with the others. I will gladly help you with testing or anything you need...
 
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Hi guys have been using the frost and blood CC and i think there awsome but ive found out that this clashes with 'The Ultimate PVP suite' when in a BG, it makes the bot take very small steps almost like you just spamming the forward arrow key but only when targeting and/or withing melee range. only tested with blood and frost if you want any more details just let me know :D
 
hbaioni said:
Well, i have had the same issue than Soeski. When I try to pause and restart, it freezes. I've been trying to make the disc spec work, but had not luck. It works in Heroics (to a certain degree, i have to manually select the targets because sometimes it stops smiting, and i have to manually select the players because sometimes it stops healing). But in raids, sometimes it remains idle for no reason... People take damage, and it doesn't do anything. So, these are the moments when i try to restart it... And it freezes HB, i have to kill the process from the windows task manager...
No other class behaves like this...
I'm actually trying to find a viable RAIDING CC for healing priests... At this point I don't care if it's Holy, Disc or whatever. I just need to be able to keep up with the others. I will gladly help you with testing or anything you need...
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What bot are you using? Lazyrider doesnt typically respond as fast as Raidbot
 
Well, something definately has changed in Resto Druid. Done LFR a few times now, and I am always the lowers HPS. BY FAR. About 7.7K HPS, with 43% overheal. I go OOM too now, every 1 or 2 fights in Wyrmrest Temple. Getting comments on my performance. Nonetheless, no one is dying or in need of more heals, so everything is fine. We had some big healers in the party too. Still, never did so low before.
I do believe it's only healing what needs healing, but people watch HPS bars... so they assume you're not performing (lazy!), even though you're quite efficient. Nothing you can fix I guess, because nothing is broken? Other healers have the idea they have to compensate for slackers like me. The fun part is though, when they tone down their healing a bit, mine will probably go up :)

In essence; the bot heals what is needed. Sometimes, that's not a lot. So, you seem to slack and they (might) kick you. Efficiency is a nice goal, but can ultimately work against you. Catch my drift?
 
Soeski said:
Well, something definately has changed in Resto Druid. Done LFR a few times now, and I am always the lowers HPS. BY FAR. About 7.7K HPS, with 43% overheal. I go OOM too now, every 1 or 2 fights in Wyrmrest Temple. Getting comments on my performance. Nonetheless, no one is dying or in need of more heals, so everything is fine. We had some big healers in the party too. Still, never did so low before.
I do believe it's only healing what needs healing, but people watch HPS bars... so they assume you're not performing (lazy!), even though you're quite efficient. Nothing you can fix I guess, because nothing is broken? Other healers have the idea they have to compensate for slackers like me. The fun part is though, when they tone down their healing a bit, mine will probably go up :)

In essence; the bot heals what is needed. Sometimes, that's not a lot. So, you seem to slack and they (might) kick you. Efficiency is a nice goal, but can ultimately work against you. Catch my drift?
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Have you tried using it in a normal 10 man group? LFR isnt a good judge on healing because of the amount of overhealing done by all people. If your two healing spine or madness in a normal run, trust me, it will heal all day.
 
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Have you tried using it in a normal 10 man group? LFR isnt a good judge on healing because of the amount of overhealing done by all people. If your two healing spine or madness in a normal run, trust me, it will heal all day.
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Wulf, did 5-man HC now. Something is definately up, I can't use CLU anymore. It's only spamming Lifebloom and Rejuvenation on all targets. Wild Growth now and then. Not even one Nourish the entire dungeon. I go OOM before the fight ends, against a boss like the Archbishop. It's only doing instant heals now, costing me all my mana. ilvl 382; 120K mana. Reforged and somewhat gemmed according to AskMrROBOT.
I may be able to make you a log, but had to switch to Noobrage mid-dungeon to not get kicked or at least get into trouble.
 
I am using LazyRaider, not RaidBot. Does it make any difference? All classes perform well in LazyRaider, I can do 50K dps with my rogue using LazyRaider, so, why should i do 7K hps with my healer? I think it has to do with the CC, not the botbase. And I see this kind problems in all environments, not just LFR. In 5 men heroics, people die because of the lack of healing as well.

The Mana management is great. I agree with that. But other healers are able to keep their mana for the entire fight and still do 20k+ hps... I don't care about overhealing as long as it doesn't suck my mana. It may be very efficient, but other people will never see it that way. I've been called "noob", "handicapped priest" among other things. There has to be a balance between performance and mana management, otherwise this is useless. ShamWoW does an Excelent job. I have yet to see a healer doing more HPS than me when I use ShamWoW. I'm always top, and I end every fight with half of my mana bar... Even Deathwing.

I just want to keep up with the other players, not being the best. I mean, if the top healer is doing 20K+ hps, I'm good with 13 or 14, but not 7... just enough so other people don't notice it. Got it?
 
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hbaioni said:
I am using LazyRaider, not RaidBot. Does it make any difference? All classes perform well in LazyRaider, I can do 50K dps with my rogue using LazyRaider, so, why should i do 7K hps with my healer? I think it has to do with the CC, not the botbase. And I see this kind problems in all environments, not just LFR. In 5 men heroics, people die because of the lack of healing as well.
The Mana management is great. I agree with that. But other healers are able to keep their mana for the entire fight and still do 20k+ hps... I don't care about overhealing as long as it doesn't suck my mana. It may be very efficient, but other people will never see it that way. I've been called "noob", "handicapped priest" among other things. There has to be a balance between performance and mana management, otherwise this is useless. ShamWoW does an Excelent job. I have yet to see a healer doing more HPS than me when I use ShamWoW. I'm always top, and I end every fight with half of my mana bar... Even Deathwing.
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Raidbot always seem to make the CC faster. I can set Lazyrider to 60fps and it still wont tick it as fast.
 
Sippinhaterade said:
Raidbot always seem to make the CC faster. I can set Lazyrider to 60fps and it still wont tick it as fast.
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So, what are you using exactly?
I read about your good performance, so, I want to try the exact same things and see if it makes any difference.
(I want to use a priest, i don't care if it's holy or disc).
Tell me your botbase, what plugins (if any) are you using, your toon's ilvl, your standard hps in LFR and your standard hps in DS 10. (While you're using CLU, of course).
 
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To complement my previous post; with 2.7.1 or even 2.7.2, Resto healing was better/fine. I did not try Disc-AA yet.
I understand that is is hard to make a mana-efficient class, who heals all that is needed, and still does "what other people in the raid want you to do". Somehow find a balance in A) Healing very well B) Efficiently use mana and C) Have a HPS number that does not make you a slacker/lazy raider (pun intended :)).
Still, Wulf, you do a great job. Overhealing is brought down to a minimum, always the lowest overhealer. But THE lowest healer will get you kicked, unless it's close together. But doing 7.7K and nr. 1 through 5 do 13-30K... that's not getting thumbs up from others :)

Unfortunately, it's also only a moment in time. When others in the raid group do less HPS, the bot does more. It compensates. Maybe it's a speed thing? Bot sees group members already getting healed, so the bot doesn't.
 
Just tested this on my level 40 holy paladin, healed like a champ, and did really well with mana management!
Keep up the good work.
 
Seems with this CC it will run past the mobs and not turn around to attack. Juat stands there getting hit in the back. Using kicks leveling profile for 58-70. Singular however works perfectly....idk. class is a DK.
 
hbaioni said:
So, what are you using exactly?
I read about your good performance, so, I want to try the exact same things and see if it makes any difference.
(I want to use a priest, i don't care if it's holy or disc).
Tell me your botbase, what plugins (if any) are you using, your toon's ilvl, your standard hps in LFR and your standard hps in DS 10. (While you're using CLU, of course).
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I switch between Raidbot and Lazyrider. Sometimes Raidbot causes my fps to drop significantly so I have to switch to Lazyrider then. Not real sure why it works flawlessly sometimes and other times it drops my fps.

When Im using Lazyrider I set performance to 30-40 fps. Havent noticed an increase in performance above that.
I dont run any plugins or addons while I am using Honorbuddy decrease the performance. I dont use LFR as a benchmark for healing because of all the overhealing thats being done. My HPS in a normal madness fight is typically 17-20k hps.
I use this build Talent Calculator - Game Guide - World of Warcraft and my ilvl is 397. I reforged out of all my spirit because I was finishing every fight with around 85% mana. Before I had around 3500 spirit, now I have around 2300 which was all reforged to haste and mastery.
 
Trevor said:
Seems with this CC it will run past the mobs and not turn around to attack. Juat stands there getting hit in the back. Using kicks leveling profile for 58-70. Singular however works perfectly....idk. class is a DK.
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Do you have movement enabled?
 
Hey wulf there is a problem with rogues and TotT if ur focus is death it keep trying to cast TotT and do not combat :<
 
hbaioni said:
I am using LazyRaider, not RaidBot. Does it make any difference?
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I always go with LazyRaider for healing for 3ish reasons.
1) I don't have to select a target or enter combat to start.
2) Non BT CCs have to purposely lag to cast a ground cast.
3) I get better framerate with LazyRaider, so its more fun to me.

CLU is a BT CC, so it waits instead of lagging for ground cast. RaidBot is probably fine for CLU healing.
 
Any chance of adding a WoWPlayer HealTarget to the CC? So instead of setting the Me.CurrentTarget to who you are healing, you set your HealTarget before the rotation starts. When I heal, I like to keep an eye on the tanks target.
 
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