CLU (Codified Likeness Utility)

[wulf]

emm and why dont you heal them? not healing them wipe the raid too

ok..so I heal the ones that do not have a stack count of more than 4 (if they have a 5 stack they explode right ?)

 

[Stormchasing]

update to latest SVN my friend (you are using 3.0.8 => 3.0.11 is latest)

On a side note: One thing i notice...is the differences in enchantment ID's:

• You have: Enchantment ID: 283 => I have Enchantment ID: 8232 for Windfury
• You have: Enchantment ID: 5 => I have Enchantment ID: 8024 for Flametongue

My Enchantment ID's line up with Windfury Weapon - Spell - World of Warcraft

Is it a language thing?

i'll check the id thing, it shouldn't be a language issue, i'm playing with english client (id's should be language independent, that's the reason why someone would use ids instead of strings^^)
maybe there's something different on my weapons which returns a false value, i'll report back later bout that,

and yes ... updating fixed the lock up of HB

 

[Stormchasing]

emm and why dont you heal them? not healing them wipe the raid too

no it won't wipe the raid, cause this is a situation which should be handled by using cooldowns (mostly done by hand).
And to be sure that u won't wipe your raid by healing, set your values to some lower ones, when it should start healing.
CLU don't needs to heal if someone is above 50% (or 75% if you are looking for epeen heal per second)
And CLU should stop using AOE heals if someone in your raid has this debuff (not if the currenttarget has the debuff , if someone has the debuff !!! this is important, cause all the other CCs check only the current target, but ignoring other targets with Deep Corruption. so they sometimes use AOE Heals cause current target does not have debuff, all is fine, raid explodes cause someone has already the debuff at 4 )

I dunno if there are AOE spells which can be used, i only know Holy Radiance and Tranquility can't be used in this phase

 

[wulf]

no it won't wipe the raid, cause this is a situation which should be handled by using cooldowns (mostly done by hand).
And to be sure that u won't wipe your raid by healing, set your values to some lower ones, when it should start healing.
CLU don't needs to heal if someone is above 50% (or 75% if you are looking for epeen heal per second)
And CLU should stop using AOE heals if someone in your raid has this debuff (not if the currenttarget has the debuff , if someone has the debuff !!! this is important, cause all the other CCs check only the current target, but ignoring other targets with Deep Corruption. so they sometimes use AOE Heals cause current target does not have debuff, all is fine, raid explodes cause someone has already the debuff at 4 )

I dunno if there are AOE spells which can be used, i only know Holy Radiance and Tranquility can't be used in this phase

Ok cool..CLU is checking the entire raid and excluding players that have the buff when casting AoE heals.

 

[Noelbuddy]

no it won't wipe the raid, cause this is a situation which should be handled by using cooldowns (mostly done by hand).
And to be sure that u won't wipe your raid by healing, set your values to some lower ones, when it should start healing.
CLU don't needs to heal if someone is above 50% (or 75% if you are looking for epeen heal per second)
And CLU should stop using AOE heals if someone in your raid has this debuff (not if the currenttarget has the debuff , if someone has the debuff !!! this is important, cause all the other CCs check only the current target, but ignoring other targets with Deep Corruption. so they sometimes use AOE Heals cause current target does not have debuff, all is fine, raid explodes cause someone has already the debuff at 4 )

I dunno if there are AOE spells which can be used, i only know Holy Radiance and Tranquility can't be used in this phase

1st not all classes can use healing spec have healing cd or spell to heal themself like paladin, enh shaman , and all rogue.
2nd if stoping clu from healing then we already have hot key to do that.
well you can use druid 's Swiftmend on pets and priest's Prayer of Mending on thr tank usually.

 

[Noelbuddy]

Ok cool..CLU is checking the entire raid and excluding players that have the buff when casting AoE heals.

all the players will have it so the aoe heal should be turn off.
only druid 's Swiftmend on pets and priest's Prayer of Mending on the tank or other players can be used.

 

[newguy8708]

Wulf,

I am having some issues with the hunter portion and maybe it's just user error. I've had HB for a while now (lifetime member) but this is really the first time I have started using combat classes to do dps for me. I have been using it successfully so far, but it doesn't seem to do the type of dps that I can do by hand. I tested it out on the combat dummy in SW and noticed that with your cc using a MM hunter with ilvl 375, I am getting around 16-18k of average dps. This doesn't really change if I switch over to singular and test it out, either. I have been testing out the different fps ratings in 5 unit increments (30, 35, 40, etc) all the way to 100 and it doesn't change the output at all. Just to see if I could, I tested it manually and was able to push an easy 20k out by hand so I know I have to be doing something wrong with the cc as I have seen other people state they're getting much higher outputs.

Whenever I click on the class settings button in HB, it pulls up a window with several tabs. Under "general" it shows the same thing most other ccs show but under the "class specific" tab, it's entirely blank. Am I missing something here? Isn't there supposed to be a way we can modify everything that is happening with our class? Again, it may be user error (and most likely is ). If I need to, I can upload a log for more specific help, but if you have any general tips for setting this up to dps a bit better (or if anyone has a hunter they are currently using this cc on and wouldn't mind helping), that'd be great. PM me if you'd like.

 

[zeldrak]

Wulf,

I am having some issues with the hunter portion and maybe it's just user error. I've had HB for a while now (lifetime member) but this is really the first time I have started using combat classes to do dps for me. I have been using it successfully so far, but it doesn't seem to do the type of dps that I can do by hand. I tested it out on the combat dummy in SW and noticed that with your cc using a MM hunter with ilvl 375, I am getting around 16-18k of average dps. This doesn't really change if I switch over to singular and test it out, either. I have been testing out the different fps ratings in 5 unit increments (30, 35, 40, etc) all the way to 100 and it doesn't change the output at all. Just to see if I could, I tested it manually and was able to push an easy 20k out by hand so I know I have to be doing something wrong with the cc as I have seen other people state they're getting much higher outputs.

Whenever I click on the class settings button in HB, it pulls up a window with several tabs. Under "general" it shows the same thing most other ccs show but under the "class specific" tab, it's entirely blank. Am I missing something here? Isn't there supposed to be a way we can modify everything that is happening with our class? Again, it may be user error (and most likely is ). If I need to, I can upload a log for more specific help, but if you have any general tips for setting this up to dps a bit better (or if anyone has a hunter they are currently using this cc on and wouldn't mind helping), that'd be great. PM me if you'd like.

I don't believe wulf has any hunter specific settings in the bot like he does for DK. And, I really haven't checked my other classes as I really only play hunter and DK most of the time right now since those are my raiding and farming toons. The only thing I can suggest is try respeccing to survival. I tried MM against SV and found that with ilevel 390 gear in MM I get about 18-19k unbuffed against a dummy, but with SV I get about 26-28k unbuffed against a dummy. It could be the rotations, it could be the spec, the gear, the reforges, the gems, the enchants, or who knows what else. There are lots of variables in play, but for all intents and purposes, I'd say switch to SV. I've been reading a lot about hunter raiding specs and the majority of things I've read say that BM and MM are not nearly as viable for raiding as SV is. That could change in the MoP patch, but right now SV is getting the best dps numbers.

 

[RownX]

I actually get less DPS as with Singular, is this normal? (Arms Warri)

 

[newguy8708]

I don't believe wulf has any hunter specific settings in the bot like he does for DK. And, I really haven't checked my other classes as I really only play hunter and DK most of the time right now since those are my raiding and farming toons. The only thing I can suggest is try respeccing to survival. I tried MM against SV and found that with ilevel 390 gear in MM I get about 18-19k unbuffed against a dummy, but with SV I get about 26-28k unbuffed against a dummy. It could be the rotations, it could be the spec, the gear, the reforges, the gems, the enchants, or who knows what else. There are lots of variables in play, but for all intents and purposes, I'd say switch to SV. I've been reading a lot about hunter raiding specs and the majority of things I've read say that BM and MM are not nearly as viable for raiding as SV is. That could change in the MoP patch, but right now SV is getting the best dps numbers.

I did actually set my dual spec as SV and made sure I made the correct talent placements. I tried the SV with clu and it actually turned up with only 15k. That's what led me to keep doing MM. I tried the SV with clu, singular, and even Bowman 3.6 and the newest one. All of them turned out the same. Also, I wanted to state that I am using LazyRaider (if that makes a difference).

Also, it's good to know this works well with a DK. I am currently about finished leveling a Masterfrost DK DW up to 85 and wanted to test this cc out in DS.

 

[zeldrak]

I did actually set my dual spec as SV and made sure I made the correct talent placements. I tried the SV with clu and it actually turned up with only 15k. That's what led me to keep doing MM. I tried the SV with clu, singular, and even Bowman 3.6 and the newest one. All of them turned out the same. Also, I wanted to state that I am using LazyRaider (if that makes a difference).

Also, it's good to know this works well with a DK. I am currently about finished leveling a Masterfrost DK DW up to 85 and wanted to test this cc out in DS.

It's odd that you're only getting 15k. Even at ilevel 375 I was doing more than that, but I was running dungeons. You'll always do more dps in a dungeon than on a test dummy. Not to mention you'll have buffs as well. SV is more of an AoE spec, in my opinion, and you'll see better numbers with larger packs. I use it to run DS normal mode and I come out with about 26-27k dps, and when in dungeons I break 30k easily. I've used CLU and Bowman, but I don't use Singular to raid or dungeon with. It's too sketchy. It likes to target and pull on its own at times, even with all targeting and taunting disabled. I've had too many "huntard" pre pulls because of Singular. So, when I leather farm, I use Singular, but other than that I use CLU and Bowman.

 

[newguy8708]

It's odd that you're only getting 15k. Even at ilevel 375 I was doing more than that, but I was running dungeons. You'll always do more dps in a dungeon than on a test dummy. Not to mention you'll have buffs as well. SV is more of an AoE spec, in my opinion, and you'll see better numbers with larger packs. I use it to run DS normal mode and I come out with about 26-27k dps, and when in dungeons I break 30k easily. I've used CLU and Bowman, but I don't use Singular to raid or dungeon with. It's too sketchy. It likes to target and pull on its own at times, even with all targeting and taunting disabled. I've had too many "huntard" pre pulls because of Singular. So, when I leather farm, I use Singular, but other than that I use CLU and Bowman.

Which would you say does the better of the two? Also, that makes sense that the AOE damage would show up better in the raid. Maybe that is what my problem is. Although, I was reading around and saw that SV was supposed to be really good at single target, too. I'm just confused. Do you think it has to do with Lazyraider?

 

[zeldrak]

Which would you say does the better of the two? Also, that makes sense that the AOE damage would show up better in the raid. Maybe that is what my problem is. Although, I was reading around and saw that SV was supposed to be really good at single target, too. I'm just confused. Do you think it has to do with Lazyraider?

Nah, I don't think the bot base has anything to do with it. I use LazyRaider all the time. I'm not fond of Combat Bot or Raid Bot because they make my computer lag out and lock up. As for single target, SV is good for that too, it's just it excels at AoE as far as I can see. On fight like Ultraxion, where you stand still and fire mainly at one target all the time, I can get almost 30k+. I like using CLU on the Ultraxion and Madness fights because it clicks the buttons for you. I get lost and forget to click buttons, so I mess things up half the time. For mostly everything else I use Bowman for all the class specific options I can set. As you mentioned, CLU has no hunter class specific options, but Bowman has many. I like being able to configure things, and so Bowman usually takes precedence due to its many options.

For instance, in Bowman, I set my AoE spells to be cast on 2+ mobs, and I think CLU is hard coded for maybe 4+? I'm not totally sure what wulf has it set to to fire off AoE abilities. I also like that you can adjust the focus amount to use Cobra shot, and other focus regen shots. You can set up pets, pet healing and rezzing, though I don't use the rezzing or calling options, and so many other things. The one done by Shaddar, version 3.6, does the most dps for me, but does lack several of the features falldown coded into the one he made though.

 

[newguy8708]

Nah, I don't think the bot base has anything to do with it. I use LazyRaider all the time. I'm not fond of Combat Bot or Raid Bot because they make my computer lag out and lock up. As for single target, SV is good for that too, it's just it excels at AoE as far as I can see. On fight like Ultraxion, where you stand still and fire mainly at one target all the time, I can get almost 30k+. I like using CLU on the Ultraxion and Madness fights because it clicks the buttons for you. I get lost and forget to click buttons, so I mess things up half the time. For mostly everything else I use Bowman for all the class specific options I can set. As you mentioned, CLU has no hunter class specific options, but Bowman has many. I like being able to configure things, and so Bowman usually takes precedence due to its many options.

For instance, in Bowman, I set my AoE spells to be cast on 2+ mobs, and I think CLU is hard coded for maybe 4+? I'm not totally sure what wulf has it set to to fire off AoE abilities. I also like that you can adjust the focus amount to use Cobra shot, and other focus regen shots. You can set up pets, pet healing and rezzing, though I don't use the rezzing or calling options, and so many other things. The one done by Shaddar, version 3.6, does the most dps for me, but does lack several of the features falldown coded into the one he made though.

I am going to get a log of my test on a dummy up. Something has to be going on with how I have it set up, then. Zel, could you pm me with how you have your Lazy set up? There should honestly be no reason that I can manually pump out 20k and my clu only gets 15k on SV

 

[Stormchasing]

[21:48:19:226] [CLU] 3.0.11: ERROR saving settings: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Ein Aufrufziel hat einen Ausnahmefehler verursacht. ---> System.ArgumentException: Der angeforderte Wert "ImprovedTestVerion" konnte nicht gefunden werden.
bei System.Enum.Parse(Type enumType, String value, Boolean ignoreCase)
bei System.Enum.Parse(Type enumType, String value)
bei Styx.Helpers.Settings.ConvertType(String val, Type t, String elmName)
bei Styx.Helpers.Settings.LoadFromXML(XElement root)
bei Styx.Helpers.Settings..ctor(String settingsPath)
bei Clu.Settings.RogueSettings..ctor() in e:\Selektra\Deathknight\CustomClasses\CLU\Settings\RogueSettings.cs:Zeile 19.
bei Clu.Settings.CLUSettings.get_Rogue() in e:\Selektra\Deathknight\CustomClasses\CLU\Settings\CLUSettings.cs:Zeile 599.


p.s. i'm playing DK atm not rogue ... dunno why it says rogue-settings

 

[GraveWalker]

Hay Wulf i got to say good job on this CC. I use it on almost evey toon i boot on. Now that said i am having a small problem with my Enhancement Shaman, there is not a setting for the fire totem. So when I'm in a BG and start combat it drops the earth, wing, air totem. Has a globle cool down , and then drops the fire totem, global cool down then starts combat rotation. so there is a dps loss there due to it not droping all 4 totems at the begining. Is this how you ment it to be?

 

[Crowley]

all the players will have it so the aoe heal should be turn off.
only druid 's Swiftmend on pets and priest's Prayer of Mending on the tank or other players can be used.

Thought you could heal tank through BOL by casting single target heals on pets aswell?

 

[Noelbuddy]

Thought you could heal tank through BOL by casting single target heals on pets aswell?

I was talking about aoe healing, if you want to talk about all spell that does not do stacks then it will be more than these spells
like shaman's ES etc

 

[wulf]

[21:48:19:226] [CLU] 3.0.11: ERROR saving settings: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Ein Aufrufziel hat einen Ausnahmefehler verursacht. ---> System.ArgumentException: Der angeforderte Wert "ImprovedTestVerion" konnte nicht gefunden werden.
bei System.Enum.Parse(Type enumType, String value, Boolean ignoreCase)
bei System.Enum.Parse(Type enumType, String value)
bei Styx.Helpers.Settings.ConvertType(String val, Type t, String elmName)
bei Styx.Helpers.Settings.LoadFromXML(XElement root)
bei Styx.Helpers.Settings..ctor(String settingsPath)
bei Clu.Settings.RogueSettings..ctor() in e:\Selektra\Deathknight\CustomClasses\CLU\Settings\RogueSettings.cs:Zeile 19.
bei Clu.Settings.CLUSettings.get_Rogue() in e:\Selektra\Deathknight\CustomClasses\CLU\Settings\CLUSettings.cs:Zeile 599.


p.s. i'm playing DK atm not rogue ... dunno why it says rogue-settings

Delete your XML settings file for rogue. I fixed a spelling mistake by renaming the "ImprovedTestVerion" to "ImprovedTestVersion"

 

[justjames]

Whenever i equip Rosary of Light - Item - World of Warcraft HB locks up.

Here is my log View attachment 51325

This is still happening.