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CLU (Codified Likeness Utility) - (PvP)

PvP class selection & validity check

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  • Validity Check ~ Blood(Death Knight)

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  • Validity Check ~ Bear(Druid)

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  • Validity Check ~ Arcane(Mage)

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rascal9 said:
Blood: Not viable
Does this mean you have no plans to implement Blood DK PVP rotations?
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I will implement all specs, less healing: I don't have the necessary skills to code that yet, but it is at the bottom of my list as they just are not viable in RBGs/Arena. Chain disarm and the DK will die instantly, DK's have no functionality when it comes to mobility and since all attacks that heal and block require his main hand he is useless without.
 
Great news, thanks so much for this!
Dagradt, you worked with Shaddar right.
I assume he won't come back for MoP, will you be delivering the awsome quality CC's instead then? So I know who to watch out for ;)
 
Latest Changes in PVP Hunters CC not very good, IMHO. At the beginning of the combat CC casting Window Wenom and Concussive Shot for all targets (why do?), after do this Serpent Sting ... So we waste 3 GCD and no damage on target. In BG after 3 GCD or target dead, or me.

Now Recount Log looks so:

1. Pet AutoAttack
2. Pet Special Abilities
3. My Autoattack
4. Lynx Rush (CD 1.5 min, OMG)
5. Kill Command
6. Arcane Shot

In BM Arcane Shot must take first place on damage, but now CC don`t have time for cast this.

Look this log from HB:

[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Serpent Sting on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Rapid Fire
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Bestial Wrath
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Readiness on Myself Why do?!
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Cobra Shot on Стайлер 100% focus now
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Bestial Wrath
[CLU] 3.3.2: [UseItem] Плетеные рукавицы гладиатора Катаклизма
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Serpent Sting on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Cobra Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер

PVE Rotation looks better, but i can`t activate her and can`t dismiss Concussive Shot in options (turn it "False", but CC cast CS anyway)...
Sorry for criticism.

P.S. I think CS don`t needed in rotation in general, and combat beginning must be start from Bestial Wrath (if he not on CD), Arcane Shot (this also apply HM on target), Kill Command (then by CD), Lynx Rush (if he not on CD), Serpent Sting and further, depending on the focus management.
P.P.S. It`s true for only BM Hunter, SV and MM don`t tested.
P.P.P.S. It`s all IMHO and i don`t have 2200+ rating :)
 
ye blood is good for tanking in rbg flag carrier for arena blood sucks blood is good for rbg and pve tanking hey dagradt wil u implent all pvp rotations in mop for evry class spec etc? also the cooldowns and 1 shot rotations etc? and with warrior heroic leap when a target kites?
 
Handler said:
Latest Changes in PVP Hunters CC not very good, IMHO. At the beginning of the combat CC casting Window Wenom and Concussive Shot for all targets (why do?), after do this Serpent Sting ... So we waste 3 GCD and no damage on target. In BG after 3 GCD or target dead, or me.

Now Recount Log looks so:

1. Pet AutoAttack
2. Pet Special Abilities
3. My Autoattack
4. Lynx Rush (CD 1.5 min, OMG)
5. Kill Command
6. Arcane Shot

In BM Arcane Shot must take first place on damage, but now CC don`t have time for cast this.

Look this log from HB:

[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Serpent Sting on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Rapid Fire
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Bestial Wrath
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Readiness on Myself Why do?!
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Cobra Shot on Стайлер 100% focus now
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Bestial Wrath
[CLU] 3.3.2: [UseItem] Плетеные рукавицы гладиатора Катаклизма
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Serpent Sting on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Cobra Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер

PVE Rotation looks better, but i can`t activate her and can`t dismiss Concussive Shot in options (turn it "False", but CC cast CS anyway)...
Sorry for criticism.

P.S. I think CS don`t needed in rotation in general, and combat beginning must be start from Bestial Wrath (if he not on CD), Arcane Shot (this also apply HM on target), Kill Command (then by CD), Lynx Rush (if he not on CD), Serpent Sting and further, depending on the focus management.
P.P.S. It`s true for only BM Hunter, SV and MM don`t tested.
P.P.P.S. It`s all IMHO and i don`t have 2200+ rating :)
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I AGree :)
 
Filmfilm said:
Great news, thanks so much for this!
Dagradt, you worked with Shaddar right.
I assume he won't come back for MoP, will you be delivering the awsome quality CC's instead then? So I know who to watch out for ;)
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Yes I did work with Shaddar on the Lazyraider CC compilation. But due to certain issues we decided to stop production of the CC some time ago, as for me bringing it back... I mainly do PvP now, I would highly suggest you take a look at CLU for your PvE needs.
 
Handler said:
Latest Changes in PVP Hunters CC not very good, IMHO. At the beginning of the combat CC casting Window Wenom and Concussive Shot for all targets (why do?), after do this Serpent Sting ... So we waste 3 GCD and no damage on target. In BG after 3 GCD or target dead, or me.

Now Recount Log looks so:

1. Pet AutoAttack
2. Pet Special Abilities
3. My Autoattack
4. Lynx Rush (CD 1.5 min, OMG)
5. Kill Command
6. Arcane Shot

In BM Arcane Shot must take first place on damage, but now CC don`t have time for cast this.

Look this log from HB:

[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Serpent Sting on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Rapid Fire
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Bestial Wrath
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Readiness on Myself Why do?!
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Cobra Shot on Стайлер 100% focus now
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Bestial Wrath
[CLU] 3.3.2: [UseItem] Плетеные рукавицы гладиатора Катаклизма
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Fox
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Serpent Sting on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Buff] Aspect of the Hawk
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Cobra Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Widow Venom on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер
[CLU] 3.3.2: [Casting] Concussive Shot on Стайлер

PVE Rotation looks better, but i can`t activate her and can`t dismiss Concussive Shot in options (turn it "False", but CC cast CS anyway)...
Sorry for criticism.

P.S. I think CS don`t needed in rotation in general, and combat beginning must be start from Bestial Wrath (if he not on CD), Arcane Shot (this also apply HM on target), Kill Command (then by CD), Lynx Rush (if he not on CD), Serpent Sting and further, depending on the focus management.
P.P.S. It`s true for only BM Hunter, SV and MM don`t tested.
P.P.P.S. It`s all IMHO and i don`t have 2200+ rating :)
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Read the front thread again, it says these are basic DPS rotations not PvP rotations. CS is only shot if target is within charge range, and WV is cast for heal debuff(mainly for arena) remember these CC's are meant for Arena and not BGs. Wait till i get to the tweaking stage then complain if it is wrong.
 
Mario27 said:
ye blood is good for tanking in rbg flag carrier for arena blood sucks blood is good for rbg and pve tanking hey dagradt wil u implent all pvp rotations in mop for evry class spec etc? also the cooldowns and 1 shot rotations etc? and with warrior heroic leap when a target kites?
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Blood Death Knight:
Take 1) He has flag, rogue Disarms and smoke Bomb, DK's dead...
Take 2) He has flag, rogue Disarms and smoke Bomb, Dk gets out of cloud but still no weapon to parry or use with Death strike for self heals, warrior disarms again, DK dies
Take 3) He has flag, rogue Disarms and smoke Bomb, Dk gets out of cloud but still no weapon to parry or use with Death strike for self heals, warrior disarms again, DK gets life griped or survives via pure luck of good healers and CD's, Priest disarms and screams, DK dies...

A Blood DK is nothing without his weapon making him not as effective as other classes, and take into account that the DK has no utility that helps him as a flag carrier or group buffs he is again less then viable.
 
hey dagradt wil u make all cc like warrior and such dpsers with all cooldowns 1 shot in pvp also wil u make it so when a char is kiting you that it uses heroic leap charge etc?

i would like to see all classes in pvp availeble:) with all things interupts cooldowns etc 1 shot:)
 
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Mario27 said:
hey dagradt wil u make all cc like warrior and such dpsers with all cooldowns 1 shot in pvp also wil u make it so when a char is kiting you that it uses heroic leap charge etc?

i would like to see all classes in pvp availeble:) with all things interupts cooldowns etc 1 shot:)
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I will asssume that "One Shot" means burst rotation. As for HL on kitting target, it will charge or HL to get within range. CD's will be implemented as I see fit. Also check the first page and you will see a drop down for each class as well as the current completion of each specialization. Interrupts will also be implemented.
 
ok awsome i hope u can make heroic leap for warrior to to get in range to if charge is on cooldown ye 1 shot i mean burst rotation in pvp with all cooldowns to pop at once:)
 
Dagradt said:
Wait till i get to the tweaking stage then complain if it is wrong.
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Okay. Now use PVE Rotation, it`s ok (AS, KK, Autoattack, Pet Special Abilities, Pet Autoattack in Recount log).

Waiting for updates and ty for your job.
 
wil there be a second clu class for pvp or pve the other one how do you know when you do pvp the rotation and interupts wil start for pvp?
 
Bot will auto activate PvP rotation when u enter bg or arena or pvp flagged
 
Mario27 said:
wil there be a second clu class for pvp or pve the other one how do you know when you do pvp the rotation and interupts wil start for pvp?
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Sorry but I didn't understand what you asked. Can you repeat please?
 
Do we need to use the macros or is it good to go... Sorry I seen a while back we needed to. just not sure if we still did. If we do are they safe or will blizzard see us typing them... Sorry noob here
 
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