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dude I USE HONORBUDDY FOR 8 10 years this is just a new forum account i know how to bot retard tripwire doesend protect us noob why would my accounts bee banned evrytime il bot and not without bot i tested this i botted i got banned within 3 4 days and i only quest botted and when im playing legit i never get banned so they know when we bot.

I think blizzard is trolling you if you get banned in 3-4 days :D that is not possible to be detection so they are either one tracking you or two you don't know how to bot safely, pick an option

Now I have to disagree with you there, In December rapphus/hawker admitted tripwire failed and were so sorry for the accounts lost and even went as far as they stuffed it up and they had to update it for it to catch the way Blizzard caught them in May/December. Come on buddy LOL :P HB took off servers offline or manually hit tripwire themselves to stop as many accounts as possible it's all there in black and white disagree all you want next time I'll repost the text and links from there post(s).
True about they have other way of getting people but those two banwaves were due to detection HB team admitted it and with how Tripwire fail read statement in December :)

Like I said they updated it in December to be more aggressive or smart which it did catch out Blizzards way of the last 2 major detections which HB admitted caused them and plugged it. Then we saw most of those accounts that were flagged banned a short time later we they also said but was really minor they did not even take auth serves offline during it being so confident and minor.
Also for 64bit who knows we won't go into that since HB is not apart of it or else we can speculate all day ;)

no you misunderstand it, how you misunderstand it I don't know because it is so simple. the tripwire did not fail in december IT WASN'T EVEN RUNNING, they messed up but that could happen to anyone, sure it's annoying but I would rather be banned because of a mistake than because the tripwire was running and didn't work properly, think about it! the only time tripwire failed was the first banwave in may, and they updated it after that. sure it took until recently to work out what caused the banwaves but do you think it is easy or something? we should give big props to them for working it out (or rather for tripwire working it out :p)

right now we are as "safe" as we were before may banwave, that is a fact and anyone who denies it doesn't understand the situation.

and to give you proof this is from the official Buddy wiki:

[Tripwire Fail] On 13-May-2015, Tripwire failed to catch a new Bliz spyware mechanism causing the 13-May-2015 Honorbuddy ban wave. Due to this event, Tripwire heuristics were significantly broadened and strengthened.
A second banwave happened on 16-Dec-2015. However, we do not count this second banwave as a Tripwire failure, since the root cause of the problem was Tripwire was not running as designed due to some internal code mis-handling in another subsystem. We are quite confident that had Tripwire been running as designed, the second banwave would've never happened. On 12-Jan-2016, our confidence was vindicated when the unmodified Tripwire codebase (properly running as designed this time) caught the Bliz spyware's attempt to use a new detection mechanism.
 
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Um tripwire was running even your quote admitted it they stuffed it up so wasn't working correctly but still was on so you cannot say it was not running at all, you can say it was not running properly ;)
https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/234363-announcement-regarding-recent-banwave.html <--- First post said was not running properly and failed to update which in HB dev terms nullified all the new heuristics recently added. So tripwire did fail in December but by the HB team stuffing it up but it was running ;)

I agree we are as safe as always with new tripwire not denying that one spot on the money there until the next time. But for now it seems tripwire is doing it's job well and I'll give you one other mention about how many times tripwire possibly has saved us, butthurt people or trolls will always talk b.s something can do 100 things right but the 1 or 2 times somethin goes wrong people will be all over it as the old saying goes.
 
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Um tripwire was running even your quote admitted it they stuffed it up so wasn't working correctly but still was on so you cannot say it was not running at all, you can say it was not running properly ;)
https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/234363-announcement-regarding-recent-banwave.html <--- First post said was not running properly and failed to update which in HB dev terms nullified all the new heuristics recently added. So tripwire did fail in December but by the HB team stuffing it up but it was running ;)

I agree we are as safe as always with new tripwire not denying that one spot on the money there until the next time. But for now it seems tripwire is doing it's job well and I'll give you one other mention about how many times tripwire possibly has saved us, butthurt people or trolls will always talk b.s something can do 100 things right but the 1 or 2 times somethin goes wrong people will be all over it as the old saying goes.

fair enough we can agree to disagree on that first point:o

for now the anti-HB trolls have been defeated, until the next thread!
 
absolute total nonsense! :) there have been two real banwaves where everyone got hit, and the second of those was caused by a tripwire failure. we know the tripwire would have "caught" it because it did the next time blizzard tried their little detection trick. the mini wave of bans that occurred when the tripwire kicked in last time is to be expected if you have a basic understanding of the problem

Do explain then, why over the course of Siege of Orgrimmar, Tripwire fired off no less than 11 times in 14 months, and not a single person got banned when hundreds, if not thousands of people all disconnected at the same time?

Face it- you're speculating at best, drinking supreme amounts of kool-aide at worst.



uhm no the tripwire kicked in on previous occasions, occasions that resulted in the prevention of everyone being banned, they do have more than one way to detect bots you know.... I suggest don't talk about what you don't understand! :) i think people don't appreciate how good the tripwire is at protecting our asses..because you are like hurr durr no bans before now bans mean we no safe..but that is not true we were never totally safe and the false sense of security you have because 64 bit was not majorly hit yet will soon come crashing down

If Tripwire activating is saving people, then why is there a detection window surrounding the actual timing that tripwire is triggered, usually with a non-coincidental amount of people getting banned?
 
So hey guys, I still have my original character and all I do is raid/questing (never pvp'd, never farmed gold) and I've never been banned, but since Cataclysm, anytime I've been very active with the game, every month I transfer my main to another account.

I'm not sure how I dodged so many of the banwaves (knock on wood) but I've been unmolested since the Glider ban tsunami back in 2006/7... maybe it's because I spend a larger amount extra $ than the average player on the game and blizzard gives me a pass, who knows.

THIS IS NOT TO SAY THIS IS FULLPROOF AND YOU SHOULD START DOING IT AND NEVER HAVE TO WORRY AGAIN, I fully accept that I MIGHT be banned, but after using automated rotations in raids for so long there's no way to go back to manual, and if I'm banned I'll have to move on because all I've liked in this game since BC is raiding... soooo the RISK is worth it to me, because without it I wouldn't even be playing the game.

ALSO not to mention I wouldn't even have time, or be willing to at least, do all my dalies and other monotonous bullshit over and over again... and do you think I'm actually going to sit there and farm the legendaires from world mobs in legion? No fkn way m8... HB enables me to raid, and avoid having to spend time on the boring stuff, and I get to be a demigod to my guild with rotations.

There is no 'safe' bot... my friend & guildie got banned back in June and he used FH (64bit only, not many people use it since it requires a lot of coding knowledge to get use out of it) + wrote his own rotations in LUA exclusively. No program, method or client is full-proof. I've also tried SBR personally (after last few banwaves from HB I got a little scared and looked for another option), but their performance in raids are complete garbo compared to what's offered here.

Also I remember back when the now defunct PQR (also 64bit supported) was all the rage, and my rotation botting friends would try to get me to make the swap because "Duuude blizz will never ban us, it's just a rotation bot it does nothing else, why would they go after us!'... and if you didn't know they had a massive banwave which caused the author to close the program.

What I'm trying to say is, I've used HB for rotation botting since Cataclysm, and I've seen many 'ROTATION-ONLY BOTS, 64BIT, SUPER SAFE' come and go... HB the only one that was unmolested for years, they had one bad year which sucks but I'm still confident in terms of both security and performance, there is no better option than HB.
 
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So hey guys, I still have my original character and all I do is raid/questing (never pvp'd, never farmed gold) and I've never been banned, but since Cataclysm, anytime I've been very active with the game, every month I transfer my main to another account.

I'm not sure how I dodged so many of the banwaves (knock on wood) but I've been unmolested since the Glider ban tsunami back in 2006/7... maybe it's because I spend a larger amount extra $ than the average player on the game and blizzard gives me a pass, who knows.

THIS IS NOT TO SAY THIS IS FULLPROOF AND YOU SHOULD START DOING IT AND NEVER HAVE TO WORRY AGAIN, I fully accept that I MIGHT be banned, but after using automated rotations in raids for so long there's no way to go back to manual, and if I'm banned I'll have to move on because all I've liked in this game since BC is raiding... soooo the RISK is worth it to me, because without it I wouldn't even be playing the game.

ALSO not to mention I wouldn't even have time, or be willing to at least, do all my dalies and other monotonous bullshit over and over again... and do you think I'm actually going to sit there and farm the legendaires from world mobs in legion? No fkn way m8... HB enables me to raid, and avoid having to spend time on the boring stuff, and I get to be a demigod to my guild with rotations.

There is no 'safe' bot... my friend & guildie got banned back in June and he used FH (64bit only, not many people use it since it requires a lot of coding knowledge to get use out of it) + wrote his own rotations in LUA exclusively. No program, method or client is full-proof. I've also tried SBR personally (after last few banwaves from HB I got a little scared and looked for another option), but their performance in raids are complete garbo compared to what's offered here.

Also I remember back when the now defunct PQR (also 64bit supported) was all the rage, and my rotation botting friends would try to get me to make the swap because "Duuude blizz will never ban us, it's just a rotation bot it does nothing else, why would they go after us!'... and if you didn't know they had a massive banwave which caused the author to close the program.

What I'm trying to say is, I've used HB for rotation botting since Cataclysm, and I've seen many 'ROTATION-ONLY BOTS, 64BIT, SUPER SAFE' come and go... HB the only one that was unmolested for years, they had one bad year which sucks but I'm still confident in terms of both security and performance, there is no better option than HB.

AMAZING post 10/10 said it perfectly
 
I think blizzard is trolling you if you get banned in 3-4 days :D that is not possible to be detection so they are either one tracking you or two you don't know how to bot safely, pick an option



no you misunderstand it, how you misunderstand it I don't know because it is so simple. the tripwire did not fail in december IT WASN'T EVEN RUNNING, they messed up but that could happen to anyone, sure it's annoying but I would rather be banned because of a mistake than because the tripwire was running and didn't work properly, think about it! the only time tripwire failed was the first banwave in may, and they updated it after that. sure it took until recently to work out what caused the banwaves but do you think it is easy or something? we should give big props to them for working it out (or rather for tripwire working it out :p)

right now we are as "safe" as we were before may banwave, that is a fact and anyone who denies it doesn't understand the situation.

and to give you proof this is from the official Buddy wiki:

evry time you inject hb to wow you can get banned evry second using bots is risky those days its not like back in the days where you could bot 1 2 years then get banned by a time and yes i get many times banned evry few days a week when using hb thats why ive quit using hb for now wow is trying to make more money befor legion comes out
 
evry time you inject hb to wow you can get banned evry second using bots is risky those days its not like back in the days where you could bot 1 2 years then get banned by a time and yes i get many times banned evry few days a week when using hb thats why ive quit using hb for now wow is trying to make more money befor legion comes out

nope, they fixed what was causing the previous banwaves! :D

right now if you get banned it is only your fault
 
The bot is no riskier than usual atm; follow good practices and you'll be ok
This, been botting for 5 years now on 3 different accounts and never been banned. Lucky to avoid the banwaves, good practice elsewhere.
 
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