Can we leave this alone now, ill explain to you how ban works.

[iamnotme]

You honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You are correct in saying that Honorbuddy is capable (to a certain extent) of doing things that a normal human player can't. Some examples are 'seeing' objects that aren't within the camera view and using spells while that chat box is open. Honorbuddy isn't about exactly replicating human behavior, it's about EMULATING behavior. Just the same as a 400 Hz and 600 Hz signal look the same at a 1000 Hz sample rate, Honorbuddy's behavior looks the same as a normal player's behavior from a memory standpoint and from a server standpoint. Who cares if Honorbuddy can access a mailbox through the wall as long as from a software standpoint it appears to be player-like.

"Just the same as a 400 Hz and 600 Hz signal look the same at a 1000 Hz sample rate," <--- This makes no sense as Blizzard can just check the player location when a mailbox was accessed and ban the player if they wanted to.

I am pretty sure if Blizzard wanted to they could put checks in place and see if a player accessed a mailbox from a location your not supposed to be able to.
That being said, being able to access the mailbox in a way the normal player wouldn't be able to do is unfair.
Adding to that, it was only accomplished through a third party program, honorbuddy.

Who cares if Honorbuddy can access a mailbox through the wall as long as from a software standpoint it appears to be player-like.

Overall, the software can tell if a behavior is botter/hacker like by checking where you were when you accomplished the task and if it is possible without third party programs. You make no sense.

IT FUCKING SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN POSSIBLE, THEREFORE IT IS HACKER/BOT LIKE. UNDERSTAND? ffs what am I talking to a brick wall?

Some values are just not possible, The server can use a simple formula to handle certain things. The server has the ability to check the location from where you accessed the mailbox. Therefore if Blizzard wanted, they could disconnect you if you access it from a particular blackspot/blacksport area, and even ban you. Now I know Blizzard probably reads these forums. But, I'm sick of you thinking you can just crush other people's stand points without giving reasoning as how they are invalid when they do have validity.

They probably do have logs of your character position when it accessed the mailbox, and I'm sorry if any of you gets a ban, because of this idiot. He is just too stubborn for his own good.

 

[theclash150]

"Just the same as a 400 Hz and 600 Hz signal look the same at a 1000 Hz sample rate," <--- This makes no sense as Blizzard can just check the player location when a mailbox was accessed and ban the player if they wanted to.

I am pretty sure if Blizzard wanted to they could put checks in place and see if a player accessed a mailbox from a location your not supposed to be able to.
That being said, being able to access the mailbox in a way the normal player wouldn't be able to do is unfair.
Adding to that, it was only accomplished through a third party program, honorbuddy.


Overall, the software can tell if a behavior is botter/hacker like by checking where you were when you accomplished the task and if it is possible without third party programs. You make no sense.

IT FUCKING SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN POSSIBLE, THEREFORE IT IS HACKER/BOT LIKE. UNDERSTAND? ffs what am I talking to a brick wall?

Some values are just not possible, The server can use a simple formula to handle certain things. The server has the ability to check the location from where you accessed the mailbox. Therefore if Blizzard wanted, they could disconnect you if you access it from a particular blackspot/blacksport area, and even ban you. Now I know Blizzard probably reads these forums. But, I'm sick of you thinking you can just crush other people's stand points without giving reasoning as how they are invalid when they do have validity.

They probably do have logs of your character position when it accessed the mailbox, and I'm sorry if any of you gets a ban, because of this idiot. He is just too stubborn for his own good.

So, assuming you're correct (which you're not) according to your statements, people strictly using Tyrael/Lazyraider would also eventually be caught. There's no way in hell that you will get caught strictly using a rotation bot. Period.

 

[iamnotme]

So, assuming you're correct (which you're not) according to your statements, people strictly using Tyrael/Lazyraider would also eventually be caught. There's no way in hell that you will get caught strictly using a rotation bot. Period.

When you are using Lazy Rider, I doubt you would use it for a straineous amount of time. Time may be a variable in the bans. Well, fuck it is, as the recommended format for reporting a ban ask for the time you spent botting.
Maybe the system is not perfect and can't detect all types of cheats.

Like I been saying it is possible , as I been using the word "maybe" and "can" frequently. Why wouldn't it be?

And stop twisting my words, or you'll make a ASS out of U and ME with you assuming.

 

[theclash150]

When you are using Lazy Rider, I doubt you would use it for a straineous amount of time. Time may be a variable in the bans. Well, fuck it is, as the recommended format for reporting a ban ask for the time you spent botting.
Maybe the system is not perfect and can't detect all types of cheats.

Like I been saying it is possible , as I been using the word "maybe" and "can" frequently. Why wouldn't it be?

And stop twisting my words, or you'll make a ASS out of U and ME.

That's the problem with all of your statements, they contain far too many 'maybes' and 'cans'. You don't have a single fact to back up any of your statements.

 

[iamnotme]

That's the problem with all of your statements, they contain far too many 'maybes' and 'cans'. You don't have a single fact to back up any of your statements.

Please direct me to where I can't have my own stand point on a situation.
What we do know is what I say is possible, we will never know the truth, as we do no code Honor Buddy nor work for Blizzard.
All I have been saying is they have logs and certain values should never have been logged and that Blizzard can use these logs.

Let's put your statement to the stand. "You don't have a single fact to back up any of your statements.", where is your proof that Honorbuddy for fact does not inject and memory edit? Other than honor buddy staff post and the people vouching for the honor buddy staff who read and took the post to heart?

I want proof, where is your logs?

 

[Macatho]

Not being funny mate but but you are just guessing with all of this, Why post such a massive post full of shit, The only way you could know any of this is to work for blizzard and yet here you are posting as if you are some kind of warcraft bot expert with insider knowledge of how they track and trace them,

Dont take this the wrong way but fuck off and bullshit some other forum we dont need it here.

To bad you didnt like my very instructive post of how bans work. I've own more than 150 WoW accounts, I've gotten maybe 70 of those banned over the last 3 years. I've probably talked to blizzard support for more than 200 hours in total over those 3 years. I've actually lived on selling wow gold for 2 years now.

I have zero insider knowledge as I am not employed by blizzard. However I do consider myself an expert on botting and ban-techniques in the sense of the word.

ex?pert
/ˈekspərt/
Noun
A person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area.

 

[theclash150]

Please direct me to where I can't have my own stand point on a situation.
What we do know is what I say is possible, we will never know the truth, as we do no code Honor Buddy nor work for Blizzard.
All I have been saying is they have logs and certain values should never have been logged and that Blizzard can use these logs.

Let's put your statement to the stand. "You don't have a single fact to back up any of your statements.", where is your proof that Honorbuddy for fact does not inject and memory edit? Other than honor buddy staff post and the people vouching for the honor buddy staff who read and took the post to heart?

I want proof, where is your logs?

Rarely is the question asked... - YouTube

 

[iamnotme]

Rarely is the question asked... - YouTube

Your a Troll

/end

Your mentality of your wrong, therefore I am right is invalid. Next please. Unless you have evidence that you'd like to link me to, other than text created by the sellers.

 

[rinleezwins]

I wonder how the packets look when you are moving by click to move mid-air.

 

[AknA]

I wonder how the packets look when you are moving by click to move mid-air.

Hb doesn't write to memory, it doesn't edit memory, it uses lua scripting to do what it does.
Yes a human can't CTM in the air, but back in the old days when you could make addons that could move (before it became a protected lua function) you could do just that with a wow addon.
Yes HB bypasses so you can use protected lua functions, it doesn't write or edit memory because of that.
Read the short post I made here : http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...erm-banned-eu-5-5-accounts-3.html#post1138538
And stop arguing about hb core.
HB can't and never will legaly be detected by Blizzard, unless a HB core developer has a hissfit and make some core changes that would write to memory.

 

[iamnotme]

Hb doesn't write to memory, it doesn't edit memory, it uses lua scripting to do what it does.
Yes a human can't CTM in the air, but back in the old days when you could make addons that could move (before it became a protected lua function) you could do just that with a wow addon.
Yes HB bypasses so you can use protected lua functions, it doesn't write or edit memory because of that.
Read the short post I made here : http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...erm-banned-eu-5-5-accounts-3.html#post1138538
And stop arguing about hb core.
HB can't and never will legaly be detected by Blizzard, unless a HB core developer has a hissfit and make some core changes that would write to memory.

Just a question. Do you think Blizzard has the ability to detect if you are using a protect lua? Even if it is bypass that allows you to use it, does that mean 100% they can't detect it is being used?

 

[tataraperz]

Just so the noobs posting here know, it is a hack if it modifies the program in anyway, be it one byte or one billion bytes. It doest matter if the hack does something like making your character jump which doesnt give you any advantaje or if it makes you unkillable, if it modifies something in the program, in this case the running memory, its a hack, period. If you didnt know for sure what a hack is then dont argue, and yes, im sure you are a computer scientist. Guess what? you suck

And anyways, i just lol everytime i see people arguing about if honorbuddy modifies memory or not like if they actually had seen the code, i dont care how good or bad your theories about clicking mid air or while chatting are, if u dont have proof just SHUT THE FUCK UP because you are making yourselves look like idiots. Dotn fucking argue about how right you are because if you dont know it for a fact then you cant argue. I fucking ahte how everybody talks about how right they are when it comes to how HB works internally, about how right their theories about bot detection are, all that crap. SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU DONT KNOW, AND YOU WONT, CAUSE YOU ARE NOT BLIZZ AND YOU ARE NOT THE HB DEVELOPERS. Peace

 

[Mario27]

Ok, the bot is not detected. How does that help us? We cant even bot for 5 hours a day now, we just get banned in matter of few days or a week.

that is with gatherbuddy questing pve raiding arena rbg is fine if you do quest you can get 17k per char if you have 5 accounts lvl 11 classes per account you have evrymonth evry 1.5 month also like 700k or more im not greedy and just farming quest gold.

 

[Aetheric]

Just so the noobs ..(discretely cut).. SHUT THE FUCK UP ..(discretely cut).. Dotn fucking argue ..(discretely cut).. I fucking ahte ..(discretely cut).. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

This forum badly needs a DISlike button ...

 

[theclash150]

Just so the noobs posting here know, it is a hack if it modifies the program in anyway, be it one byte or one billion bytes. It doest matter if the hack does something like making your character jump which doesnt give you any advantaje or if it makes you unkillable, if it modifies something in the program, in this case the running memory, its a hack, period. If you didnt know for sure what a hack is then dont argue, and yes, im sure you are a computer scientist. Guess what? you suck

And anyways, i just lol everytime i see people arguing about if honorbuddy modifies memory or not like if they actually had seen the code, i dont care how good or bad your theories about clicking mid air or while chatting are, if u dont have proof just SHUT THE FUCK UP because you are making yourselves look like idiots. Dotn fucking argue about how right you are because if you dont know it for a fact then you cant argue. I fucking ahte how everybody talks about how right they are when it comes to how HB works internally, about how right their theories about bot detection are, all that crap. SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU DONT KNOW, AND YOU WONT, CAUSE YOU ARE NOT BLIZZ AND YOU ARE NOT THE HB DEVELOPERS. Peace

Once again, it doesn't matter what Honorbuddy does in the WoW process's address space as long as it emulates (not replicates) normal gameplay, which it does.