Can anyone please help me with my DH M6 build? I cap at GR70 12min.. Thanks

[lenneth13]

I can clear 70 pretty consistently around 7:10. I did a few test runs to check again this morning and, depending on if I got a bunch of tanks, a crap rift, or a prime set-up, I was a high of 7:31 and a low of 6:52.

Here is my Gear: http://www.d3planner.com/510772144

If I put on my Physical Nemisis Bracers I can get my clear times to average closer to 7:00 but I have to be a bit more careful when I do that due to losing my 32% dmg reduction from WoC. Unity = trash. Don't use it. You should be using Focus and Restraint so that you get the two +50% damage increases. For me, it lines up like "1 Evasive - 5 Cluster Arrows - Repeat" Crucial to keep both buffs up to see a significant damage increase.

I have to disagree with anyone who says worry about toughness on a DH... We are glass cannons, simple as that. If you wear the gear i'm wearing (which is the gear anyone clearing over 80 is wearing but better rolls) you have a significant amount of damage reduction. I have 112 million toughness when standing in my Guardian turret + my bracer dmg reduction nets me at about 180-200mil but that's not the point. My point is you are a glass cannon. Only worry about Vit and crap on gear you can't roll extra damage on. We're not concerned with stacking Vit since we get our damage reduction from "% Dmg Reduction" on items. Sure, it's a nice bonus if you can get it but I much prefer to kill stuff quickly rather than try and tank it.

Cube:
Dawn
Cloak of Garwulf
Convention of elements
(Make sure you have "Wait for Convention Element" checked under "Trinity - Combat - Misc Combat Settings")

With my CD% at 33.35%, I only experience a minimal amount of Veng downtime. My gear isn't perfect but it's solid enough to farm the hell out of 70-74 and clear as high as 76.

I don't understand why use cloak of garwulf even if you roll 9% zoey's normally you'd have 4 followers out 4x9 = 36% damage reduction +50% from visage = 86%
So you put on the cloak you get two more followers.. okay, 6x9 = 54% but you lose the visage so... 86-54 = 22%
so - 22% less damage reduction just for having two extra wolves??

also -60% dmg reduction if you want to use CoE instead of elusive ring cause she does vault once or more every 8 seconds or -half damage instead of unity in exchange for 200% for 4 seconds once every 16 seconds?

I tried your setup with better rolls too and it seems like she's slower and weaker i cap at 72 going manual ... she can't even bot 70's

I don't understand how you pull 7 minute runs with bot with that.. Maybe my botting setup is all wrong..? maybe
also i dont know if it's a mistake or not but why are you using chain of torment on your sentry? cause you said you're using guardian turret..

SOoo yeah she it takes her longer than 15 min to run a 70 with that setup and better rolls (and i did get cdr to 34%).. also plvl is 1020 now maybe yours is like about 2000?

I don't get it..

 

[jbotwww]

I don't understand why use cloak of garwulf even if you roll 9% zoey's normally you'd have 4 followers out 4x9 = 36% damage reduction +50% from visage = 86%
So you put on the cloak you get two more followers.. okay, 6x9 = 54% but you lose the visage so... 86-54 = 22%
so - 22% less damage reduction just for having two extra wolves??

also -60% dmg reduction if you want to use CoE instead of elusive ring cause she does vault once or more every 8 seconds or -half damage instead of unity in exchange for 200% for 4 seconds once every 16 seconds?

I tried your setup with better rolls too and it seems like she's slower and weaker i cap at 72 going manual ... she can't even bot 70's

I don't understand how you pull 7 minute runs with bot with that.. Maybe my botting setup is all wrong..? maybe
also i dont know if it's a mistake or not but why are you using chain of torment on your sentry? cause you said you're using guardian turret..

SOoo yeah she it takes her longer than 15 min to run a 70 with that setup and better rolls (and i did get cdr to 34%).. also plvl is 1020 now maybe yours is like about 2000?

I don't get it..

You can't just go Zoey Reduc + Visage reduc = reduction. They don't work like that. Its Zoey reduc then Visage reduc after that reduc which lowers the value of Visage. Getting more Zoey reduc is more beneficial.

My friend is 1150 paragon with just ancient gear and like 65-70 gems cubed running exactly what I said a few posts back 72s in 10-11m getting 110-120b an hour.

Also, there is more pets than that btw. 2 ferrets, 1 bat, 1 bird, 3 wolves, 1 boar, 1 spider

Long as you have a 8.8 or higher it basically is the same toughness as visage setup.

 

[lenneth13]

You can't just go Zoey Reduc + Visage reduc = reduction. They don't work like that. Its Zoey reduc then Visage reduc after that reduc which lowers the value of Visage. Getting more Zoey reduc is more beneficial.

My friend is 1150 paragon with just ancient gear and like 65-70 gems cubed running exactly what I said a few posts back 72s in 10-11m getting 110-120b an hour.

Also, there is more pets than that btw. 2 ferrets, 1 bat, 1 bird, 3 wolves, 1 boar, 1 spider

Long as you have a 8.8 or higher it basically is the same toughness as visage setup.

yeah the visage i wasn't really sure of but I still cant pull through I'm glad your friend got it going but for some reason it's not linking up here

 

[jbotwww]

Just make sure you have the exact skills i said and run with 5 trash size in 20 yards and kill anything worth 5% or more or anything worth more than .5%. Idk if it matters but I don't use new trinities. Anything after .44 is just not good atm.

 

[lenneth13]

Just make sure you have the exact skills i said and run with 5 trash size in 20 yards and kill anything worth 5% or more or anything worth more than .5%. Idk if it matters but I don't use new trinities. Anything after .44 is just not good atm.

Which trinity do you use?

and yeah I have it set up just like that

 

[jbotwww]

I still use .42

I don't really solo bot anymore though but it worked fine on anything up to .44.

I am using .42 now because I 4 man bot for that big 450-500b an hour.

 

[lenneth13]

I still use .42

I don't really solo bot anymore though but it worked fine on anything up to .44.

I am using .42 now because I 4 man bot for that big 450-500b an hour.

I see I'll give that a try again.. I didn't see any difference before though I'm using .45

I'll give it a try when everyone stops bitching that db doesn't work ehe cause mine is still running

 

[alainbuddy]

If only bot could avoid Molten Explosion :\

 

[MadMayhem]

Presuming a max roll Zoey,
Garwolf 9pet*9 = 81% reduction
You take only 19% of damage

Gunes 7pet*9 = 63% reduction | 37% remaining damage taken is again halved to 18.5%
You take only 18.5% of damage


I'm, not the best at maths, but that's pretty much how you have to look at it.
They are quite close, at this point you just have to weight up the pros/cons to see what you prefer

Garwolf
- Extra pets distracts enemies more
- Extra damage (not much compared to you, but something)
- Relies on pets being alive

Gunes
- Even if all pets die you do not lose 50% of your damage reduction
- Relies heavily on skill cooldown being high to keep vengeance active (personally I would not consider gunes without 100% uptime)

 

[lenneth13]

Presuming a max roll Zoey,
Garwolf 9pet*9 = 81% reduction
You take only 19% of damage

Gunes 7pet*9 = 63% reduction | 37% remaining damage taken is again halved to 18.5%
You take only 18.5% of damage


I'm, not the best at maths, but that's pretty much how you have to look at it.
They are quite close, at this point you just have to weight up the pros/cons to see what you prefer

Garwolf
- Extra pets distracts enemies more
- Extra damage (not much compared to you, but something)
- Relies on pets being alive

Gunes
- Even if all pets die you do not lose 50% of your damage reduction
- Relies heavily on skill cooldown being high to keep vengeance active (personally I would not consider gunes without 100% uptime)

So pretty much rolling a perf zoeys with cloak is the same as visage -.5% + 2 tanking/attacking wolves

gotcha

Thanks

 

[lenneth13]

Hello again and thanks for your help

I'm running rift 74s with this gear

http://www.d3planner.com/126680515

and this config

I keep dying a lot at 75 so she runs out of time and 76 bot is out of the question ... I can only pass it manually.. =(

I'd really like better items especially with phys and arcane res rather than everything and higher stats on those items but.. I can't seem to find them... I have it set to pick up every Ancient and I babysit it once a day for a few minutes to salvage the stuff that I don't want.

Is there any way I could run higher rifts? An easier way to get better gear perhaps? or maybe change something up in my settings? Or do I just have to grind it on till my paragon goes up about 1000 points

Any type of help would be really appreciated!!

What do you guys recommend?

Thanks so much

 

[fooOoo]

if you wanna go high GRs, dont use dh.
the bot is only good if you are able to facetank everything.. a dh simply does not have the neccessary dmg mitigation

 

[lenneth13]

if you wanna go high GRs, dont use dh.
the bot is only good if you are able to facetank everything.. a dh simply does not have the neccessary dmg mitigation

What do you recommend?

this is my dmg mitigation

 

[fooOoo]

I first switched to barb, after that to crusader.

Barb perma dies to guardians in high GRs, crusader is just doing fine

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your mitigation is pretty good. But is the bot really using the guardian turret?

 

[lenneth13]

I first switched to barb, after that to crusader.

Barb perma dies to guardians in high GRs, crusader is just doing fine

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your mitigation is pretty good. But is the bot really using the guardian turret?

Yeah most of the time she casts it on herself on hides inside it and face tanks or vaults into one

mind sharing your build for the crusader?