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Botting with or w/o VMWare - You opions please!

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Hey just want to know if you're using VMWare for each D3/DB instance :)

A lot of people have the opinion that Blizz bans by MAC address... :)

And if you're using VMWare, did you get banned on all or just some of your accounts in the last banwaves?
 
The question is if it prevents the banhammer on all accounts on that computer.
 
MacPod said:
The question is if it prevents the banhammer on all accounts on that computer.
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I believe it would. A few reasons.

You have a different mac address
You have a different hardware ID

While VMs would have your same IP they look like difference PCs and since they rarely ban by IP they would have no reason to ban all the accounts on that IP unless they look into every account on that IP and find that all of them are botting.
 
markn12 said:
I believe it would. A few reasons.

You have a different mac address
You have a different hardware ID

While VMs would have your same IP they look like difference PCs and since they rarely ban by IP they would have no reason to ban all the accounts on that IP unless they look into every account on that IP and find that all of them are botting.
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At this point they see 4 accounts from this IP get hit and they see 12 more accounts, they are going to review them most likely. So you add overhead for little protection.

Your best anti detection is just playing smart.

If you want to make money on D3, simple fact is Easy come Easy go. Just because you can make money today on it don't expect to make money on it next month to pay your bills.
 
PapaBash said:
what do you guys mean with overhead?
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Overhead is stuff that is used without being seen.

In this case, you run additional software, this software uses system resources RAM/CPU meaning you have less available to do the core functions you want in D3/DB.
 
wow what a strange word instead of just stating - more cpu power needed ;)

And core functions of a heavy running pc is providing security for your accounts and not only D3/DB
 
jimjohnson said:
At this point they see 4 accounts from this IP get hit and they see 12 more accounts, they are going to review them most likely. So you add overhead for little protection.

Your best anti detection is just playing smart.

If you want to make money on D3, simple fact is Easy come Easy go. Just because you can make money today on it don't expect to make money on it next month to pay your bills.
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Sure if they actually look by IP which I doubt. People have already reported they have had accounts banned on one PC and none on others yet all are on the same IP.
 
markn12 said:
Sure if they actually look by IP which I doubt. People have already reported they have had accounts banned on one PC and none on others yet all are on the same IP.
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Correct I know people no condom 20 on 1 PC. Its a case by case basis. If you want my opinion your much safer never being reported for botting to begin with than having to go through the unbanning process of saying you weren't at the wheel of your account. HOWEVER it does not guarantee an unban and at the same time you are losing CPU power/ram/GPH on the off chance you won't lose your account at the end of the day.

If you have to trade on your botting account be sure to block them off your recent list (block anyone on your recent list you know won't report you). I have a 1 strike rule if a casual acquintance acuses me I deny it and I block them. I'd rather not be able to talk to a friend (who I can just talk to just as easy with social media) than not be able to ever login again.

Just use common sense. Nobody is immune to a ban. Don't brag about it, and yes even real life friends can get jealous or envious. Know that any public player in your party can inspect your hours played and gold collected. I have been questioned ONCE before and I have never pubbed since. Do not pub, do not trade (block after if you have to) and don't register all the keys under your own name. I will have better luck restoring my accounts from people who have gave me their accounts (I can ask/pay them to call Blizzard on my behalf).

Please note that once you have been unbanned once if you have it happen to you again you cannot use the RLMAH ever again on that account.

edit: Trade with an alt with less than 600+ hours played and in all gold find gear. Also don't name your character bot and don't do stupid shit. A lot of bans are handed out because of plain stupid shit and the best advice for getting unbanned is to not ever get banned to begin with.
edit2: Being logged into Asia, North America and Europe simultaneously is another good way to get a fast ban.
 
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Why isn't it possible to have different ips for every instance you use? I mean in a single VM enviroment, what is preventing you from routing every single client through a different ***? That being the case you would have a different ip, machine code and mac adress for every bot.

Obviously I might be mistaken but I see no reason why you cant reroute diablo 3 in a vmware through a different *** and in the next vmbox you switch it again. It isn't that much overhead and granit protection. At least that is a system I will try to build on my next machine.
 
I'm using my bot account on VMWare, with a V P N on the virtual.

Enjoy tracing it back to my main account!
 
so is any free vm software? or we have to buy it?
 
I really think trying to hide your botting activity is pointless in this game and here's the reasons why:

A. You don't play with other people. No one will ever report you.

B. After a certain point, it's completely obvious your account is botting. They don't need to detect anything on your end, they can simply look at your time played and gold acquired. My main account which has over 400 hours played since release has just under 15 million gold looted. My bot that has been running since about 2 days before the injunction has around 300 hours played and 90 million gold looted. There is really no defense against those type of numbers.

C. Blizzard will never IP ban. In fact, they haven't banned "by association" since Vanilla. If you knew how IP banning worked, you'd know that it has far too great a risk of getting innocent people caught in the crossfire. They punish only licenses that break the rules. In World of Warcraft, I have my bots all connected to my main account. They bot, and send materials to my main. My main acct processes and sells them. I have lost 5 bot accounts. I have never once lost or even had my main account in question. In fact, my bot accounts were on my very same Battle.net when they were closed. I also live with my brother who plays D3 and WoW as well. He does not bot. He has never been banned or suspended. I do not now, nor have I ever used an IP or machine spoof. Blizzard DOES NOT ban by association.
 
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fr3357 said:
do yo ucare to elaborate the difference between MAC and hardware...
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Mac address is coded into your network card itself router/modem also you cannot change this without spoofing it with software that does it. Hardware ID is a random ID generated usually based on your hard drives serial number but it can also be generated from other hardware to get a unique ID based on all your hardware (mobo,gpu,cpu,hd). VM Ware creates its own virtual network card with its own mac address and its own virtual HD it would have a unique hardware ID that would not match your PCs in simple terms someone looking would think its a PC not VMware.
 
yarmatey said:
C. Blizzard will never IP ban. In fact, they haven't banned "by association" since Vanilla. If you knew how IP banning worked, you'd know that it has far too great a risk of getting innocent people caught in the crossfire. They punish only licenses that break the rules. In World of Warcraft, I have my bots all connected to my main account. They bot, and send materials to my main. My main acct processes and sells them. I have lost 5 bot accounts. I have never once lost or even had my main account in question. In fact, my bot accounts were on my very same Battle.net when they were closed. I also live with my brother who plays D3 and WoW as well. He does not bot. He has never been banned or suspended. I do not now, nor have I ever used an IP or machine spoof. Blizzard DOES NOT ban by association.
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Pretty sure I got banned at least 10 times on WoW during 2010 to 2011 via
Account Action: Closure
Reason for Action: Terms of Use Violation - Association to Exploitative Accounts
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It was a cross-IP ban with the same MAC address. Trade Account, Bank Account and Bot Accounts on 3 different ***/VM. Of course, all were running on the same router. Somehow, Blizzard managed to trace it back every month.
 
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