Botting for dummies

[ZephyrMMO]

So am I

They'll catch you once they know you are a decent gold farmer. Switching HWID/MACs, reinstalling and or using VMs is a must if you want to make a profit.

You cry about HWID then post an image proving my point that HWID does not matter. I don't really know what to say outside of try monitoring 100+ accounts and have employees that rely on you before you try and giving "advice"

btw you should run a /console set renderscale .1 to save you some CPU power (does not do much for ram) as well as it seems multiple of your accounts are running the same hotspot range, you can easily circumvent this by running a dice roll at the start of your profiles to randomize where they go if you do not have a set plan to where your bots will go per server. It is pretty obvious you are an amateur by the screenshot

 

[Multibotter]

You cry about HWID then post an image proving my point that HWID does not matter. I don't really know what to say outside of try monitoring 100+ accounts and have employees that rely on you before you try and giving "advice"

btw you should run a /console set renderscale .1 to save you some CPU power (does not do much for ram) as well as it seems multiple of your accounts are running the same hotspot range, you can easily circumvent this by running a dice roll at the start of your profiles to randomize where they go if you do not have a set plan to where your bots will go per server. It is pretty obvious you are an amateur by the screenshot

Loooooooool, this is vmware with unity mode You are so full of shit. Claiming all those things. You probably don't even have more then 2 bots.

Renderscale does shit for CPU, pretty much all GPU. I am using KeeponMoving plugin which enables renderscale when starting the bot and seeing how I stopped all my bots, 1+1=2 right idiot.

All my bots are using a big list of hotspots that are randomized. They'll hit the same nodes, but I can't imagine they are doing this with the same route.

I am happily awaiting for your screenshots proving you are running more than 100+ accounts and employees

Also 100+ accounts and only selling 1-2KK per day? What the fuck.

 

[ZephyrMMO]

Reference incase this user decided to delete his screenshot again. http://imgur.com/a/eIbbN


Your screenshot shows no taskbars and a UI that suggests that you are running them all on the same HWID. Also you did not cover up your names ( So I bet you didnt photoshop it to make it look nice)

And you are using dual monitors for your bots but not for your VM?... Please lol

(At least match your x per client and give your bot window half the Y of your client window and use the plugin that draws an ingame overlay)

nor do I wish to expose any of my methods via screenshot. I do not understand why you need to be so immature about your counter arguments but to me that just chalks down to a young user who does not know what they are doing. I wish the best of luck to you in your botting and only wish for the best for this product.

A few bits about your technical criticism

Renderscale is a mainly GPU issue yes,(The main bottleneck in cost efficient botting builds) which is why I suggested it in the first place. "CPU" Was a poor choice of words since I assumed that you consider that as the "computer" instead of the real "Central Processing Unit" Term. Because it is obvious you are still young and do not know the full ins and outs of how unity 3(not to be confused with unity "3D" which is more or less unity 5) is built on. HWID Tracking should 100% be in world of warcraft to combat botters but it simply is not. They use a different identification system based on the Battle.Net client installation to determine their "own HWID" AFAIK. (My ASM is pretty crap, I had someone else help me with this)

Most of my legion accounts run just the baseline 800 ilvl and old systems since I have not been banned in over 6 months. Which is why the low gain per account. I have some accounts that push much higher then that but I got lazy with excess funding so I just made it work "good enough" for most of my accounts

Also you should break up your accounts into "chunks" that will roll different range. If you scale up more you will understand why using one "Global" Profile will become an issue

I am unsure why you are so hostile towards me outside of the fact you are frustrated with your current setup and seen someone with a better one and felt like you needlessly had to "attack" them to show you are better.

Grow up I would rather spend my limited time helping users who need it over showing immature kids how stupid they are

 

[Multibotter]

Wow, you really have no clue.

Let me break it down:

Reference incase this user decided to delete his screenshot again. http://imgur.com/a/eIbbN

I never removed my screenshot "again"

Your screenshot shows no taskbars and a UI that suggests that you are running them all on the same HWID. Also you did not cover up your names ( So I bet you didnt photoshop it to make it look nice)

And you are using dual monitors for your bots but not for your VM?... Please lol

(At least match your x per client and give your bot window half the Y of your client window and use the plugin that draws an ingame overlay)

A few bits about your technical criticism

Renderscale is a mainly GPU issue yes,(The main bottleneck in cost efficient botting builds) which is why I suggested it in the first place. "CPU" Was a poor choice of words since I assumed that you consider that as the "computer" instead of the real "Central Processing Unit" Term. Because it is obvious you are still young and do not know the full ins and outs of how unity 3(not to be confused with unity "3D" which is more or less unity 5) is built on. HWID Tracking should 100% be in world of warcraft to combat botters but it simply is not. They use a different identification system based on the Battle.Net client installation to determine their "own HWID" AFAIK. (My ASM is pretty crap, I had someone else help me with this)

Unity mode is a mode vmware offers that'll integrate my vms to my desktop, I am actually running 8 VMs in that screenshot. https://pubs.vmware.com/workstation-9/index.jsp?topic=/com.vmware.ws.using.doc/GUID-8C477788-7700-4030-8C4A-039C02AABB74.html

Also I actually have a triple monitor setup, but I cropped that image to make it viewable.

Referring to CPU as computer? I have never actually see someone do that before. I am not even going to comment on that.

nor do I wish to expose any of my methods via screenshot. I do not understand why you need to be so immature about your counter arguments but to me that just chalks down to a young user who does not know what they are doing. I wish the best of luck to you in your botting and only wish for the best for this product.

Immature? Please take a look at your own posts:

That guy above tries to cry about HWID then runs 17 accs on the same HWID so more or less he is just talking out of his ass

You cry about HWID then post an image proving my point that HWID does not matter. I don't really know what to say outside of try monitoring 100+ accounts and have employees that rely on you before you try and giving "advice" It is pretty obvious you are an amateur by the screenshot

Also you should break up your accounts into "chunks" that will roll different range. If you scale up more you will understand why using one "Global" Profile will become an issue

I am using one global profile that'll pick a farming profile based on ranks and how many herbs I have in inventory. I have at least 5 different farming profiles per herb and they are randomized with a custom behavior because I use questbuddy and not GB2.

I am unsure why you are so hostile towards me outside of the fact you are frustrated with your current setup and seen someone with a better one and felt like you needlessly had to "attack" them to show you are better

See quotes above sigh.

Grow up I would rather spend my limited time helping users who need it over showing immature kids how stupid they are

Yeah sure I can play your game too.

The screenshot you saw above of my desktop is actually just one of my PCs. I actually have 10 servers in a room with 5 employees and making at least 100 million gold per day. I would love to teach you guys, but I don't want to show my methods

And before you get mad about that, the screenshot was not to show you I was running everything on HWID, which I am certainly not, but to show I actually am botting.

 

[ZephyrMMO]

Wow, you really have no clue.

Yeah sure I can play your game too.

The screenshot you saw above of my desktop is actually just one of my PCs. I actually have 10 servers in a room with 5 employees and making at least 100 million gold per day. I would love to teach you guys, but I don't want to show my methods

And before you get mad about that, the screenshot was not to show you I was running everything on HWID, which I am certainly not, but to show I actually am botting.

Ok, Thank you for solidifying my point.

 

[Multibotter]

Ok, Thank you for solidifying my point.

Waiiiiit wait, I meant.

100 servers and 500 employees.

 

[ZephyrMMO]

Waiiiiit wait, I meant.

100 servers and 500 employees.

I run 3 servers and have 2 ppl who rely on me as "employees" but ok

 

[Multibotter]

I run 3 servers and have 2 ppl who rely on me as "employees" but ok

I think the only thing you run is your big mouth. Attacking me first and then when I attack back suddenly I am the immature one.

You won't even post some evidence because you don't want your methods te be public. Or do you not want to post something because

more or less he is just talking out of his ass

 

[ZephyrMMO]

I think the only thing you run is your mouth. Attacking me first and then when I attack back suddenly I am the immature one.

You won't even post some evidence because you don't want your methods te be public. Or do you not want to post something because

I mean I release whatever I feel comfortable with for public releases because I care about this product. But releasing mass gold farming methods would be idiotic and would just cause more trouble for HB then it is worth. I do not get why you are so angry.

I am currently working on more utility based releases for free so the community can at least see a somewhat revival. All you are doing is trolling Mr "Multibotter" lol.

 

[Multibotter]

I am done with this for now, but if you want or dont want to believe this guy, I stand by what I said before.

Go ask your goldbuyer if blizzard bans people for botting and or selling gold based on HWIDs.

 

[ZephyrMMO]

I am done with this for now, but if you want or dont want to believe this guy, I stand by what I said before.

Go ask your goldbuyer if blizzard bans people for botting and or selling gold based on HWIDs.

sounds great

 

[Multibotter]

I mean I release whatever I feel comfortable with for public releases because I care about this product. But releasing mass gold farming methods would be idiotic and would just cause more trouble for HB then it is worth. I do not get why you are so angry.

I am currently working on more utility based releases for free so the community can at least see a somewhat revival. All you are doing is trolling Mr "Multibotter" lol.

I am not trolling, you are the only trolling here by lying about your botting experience and ban experience. You are actually being harmful.

Your releases have nothing to do with this and I don't see why you would even bring it up. I am not using it but I do appreciate it because community releases are good for everybody.

And I never said release your mass botting methods, just a screenshot with your server running 33 sessions or what ever you claim.

 

[ZephyrMMO]

I am not trolling, you are the only trolling here by lying about your botting experience and ban experience. You are actually being harmful.

Your releases have nothing to do with this and I don't see why you would even bring it up. I am not using it but I do appreciate it because community releases are good for everybody.

ok

 

[Veliton]

chill guys i dont really get how you run this even on profit ^^ i get banned every like 8 days .. so im in a very small profit :/

 

[foron]

chill guys i dont really get how you run this even on profit ^^ i get banned every like 8 days .. so im in a very small profit :/

I know what you feel bro

 

[bk11]

you would have to ask, but I literally live off of gold farming so I know what I am talking about. Just pm me with questions

That's awesome. I by no means have the time or inclination to get the point where you are, but living off gold farming sounds like fun.

 

[Sam0883]

I am in no way trying to rez this thread... but I would like to ask really anyone in this thread who is running wow on a server HW a question...
am I correct in assuming your all using some kind of GPU on your boards? or are you using Desktop HW with integrated graphics like on an I7 chipset?

 

[bul]

Waiiiiit wait, I meant.

100 servers and 500 employees.

I hope you claim all your taxes correctly or you're going to get it in the pooper by the irs

 

[p4mdude]

After reading through this thread, I noticed neither seeing any proof of any of the claims made nor any links/additional information, except for one screenshot of a few bots running at a time.

Which is why I won't bother providing any as well:

From my experience:

banwise:
-IPs do not matter
-HWIDs do not matter
-while going 24/7 increases your detection risk as the encounters with real players increase as well, playtime does not correlate with the chance of getting banned
-trading extremely large amounts of gold directly might be considered risky, I never figured out a clear detection pattern

Imho, there is no need to start botting being too careful not to risk anything. Get familiar with the bot, ideally, learn some C#, optimize the profiles you are using and then just "go big" and see how it goes.
When you are afraid of losing money, don't gamble. While there always is a chance of getting banned, there still is NO way/strategy of nullifying said risk.

And always remember: Even if there was such a strat/behavior pattern, people will most likely not just provide you with that info for free on a public forum.

Sincerely,

p4mdude

Edit: Nearly all info provided on how Blizz decides about/carries out (auto-)bans is pure speculation. While (most likely by accident) some info might (have) be(en) true, keep in mind that a lot of threads here contain info from & about past versions of WoW, meaning there are numerous outdated &/|| speculative theories.