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[Blizzard Post] We're Doomed

Defqon

Defqon

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Giving people a heads up about this. This is the first time that someone from Blizzard has publicly mentioned botting and that they plan to do something about it. It seems we're all done for sooner or later.

I'm actually gonna continue to bot as I don't give a rats ass about the game as it just sucks to play by hand 90% of the time.

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The original thread can be found here:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/19741203983
 
It's never an if it's always a when. It's a good thing there is no incredible time investment made on our behalf!
 
Do we have anybody here on the inside or has knowledge on exactly how blizzard detects the bot? If I stopped using it now, would it even matter?
 
I actually am super bored of the game now maybe if they put more effort into content and less effort into catching me bot they might make me more inclined to enjoy it without the luxury of my bot doing all the boring shit for me. :) To be honest I only just started botting and I am enjoying watching my bot run around kill things more than I enjoy doing it myself I'd rather play a movie and glance over every now and then and take the risk than to sit through the endless grind through paragons and for items and when I do actually decide to sit down and play with my friends atleast then i'm not sick of the game I can atleast get some enjoyment from it then. Lol
 
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I simply won't play the game if I can't bot. The game is somewhat fun if played manually for short amounts of time while botting the rest. Unlike many other games, Diablo 3 without a bot seems like a horrible form of entertainment.
 
at start of the season 4 players start playing now none
what they want to do kick all players i think only boters playing the game now 90%
 
People, did you forget about massive ban wave we had when we had Diablo II?
It is nothing new. It will always hang around as long as it is legal in US
 
too little and too late now, if they are really gonna pull the plug at this point of stage at least 60% of D3 population will cease to exist instantly. that will look bad on the quarterly report for their investors, $$$ > everything, even if developers are willing to pull the plug the board will veto it before the proposal even hit the table. rest assure my fellow botters, if you don't win lottery all the time why should you be worried getting ban? they will ban like 5% of bot population to show that they made "effort".
 
Let's discuss streamers for a second.

A large portion of the guides and builds seem to come from streamers. These streams and guides are the basis for where most of the community gets their information. There is no way that a streamer who plays on stream for 8-12 hours a day is spending another 3-4 hours a day farming materials. They are likely using bots. There have been many cases where streamers have slipped and mentioned it, left their bot on stream, or have otherwise been outed.

Kill off bots and you will see a decline in stream quantity and quality.

That said, Blizzard would likely have to drastically increase methods of detecting bots. Simply using server-side measurables is not enough as we can use YAR to limit bot time and their method would be thwarted.

Blizzard is not allowed to scan files on our computers, only check for interaction/modification of their own game files. What exactly they could do in order to be better at stopping bots is questionable.

Currently they do nearly nothing, though. Typically when a new patch is about to drop, you can be assured that the bot you've been running 24/7 since the season started will be banned. Personally, as soon as a new patch is announced, I stop botting as anything I do will be pointless anyways within a month or so. Doing this I haven't had an account banned since the launch of season 2 (lost main account, had been botting for 3 months 24/7).
 
Like others have pointed out, botting is the only way more my to enjoy the game at the point. All of my enjoyment comes from seeing what my bot managed while at work or sleeping. I don't even care if my account gets closed anymore, Blizzard only spits out garbage online-only cash grabs games these days so they are done getting money from me. Not sure why Blizzard is trying to squash botting so much, give me a god damn reason to want to play the game and I won't use a bot. Maybe they should solve that problem instead. I wonder how many people bot Witcher 3, or Skyrim... jesus Blizzard needs to get a damn a clue about game design.
 
+1, game sucks, we all know nothings gonna happen.
If somehow we live in an alternate universe and something does happen, no one fricken cares.
 
As mentioned, i think Blizzard needs the streamers for publicity, news distribution and hyping the changes in each patch. Its become an important vehicle for their customers. We the public will go and see what quin says rather than search for some half-decent thread on blizzards forum.

If i try to look at this from Blizzards point of view i don't see any problematic effects aside from people thinking that botting puts you in the top rankings. The thought of that prevents others from wanting to compete but its not actually true. 99.99% botters are not concerned with grift rankings. For those that are, its only because its easy and it's not the reason they are ranking high. RNG of rift layout and monsters is more like 60% of the difference in rank, the 35% is skill at playing, researching and 'utilizing' mechanics, 5% is gear. For the amount of time played by top streamers they will already have pretty close to the best gear without any botting.

With no auction house on a single player game where you cannot trade items, what difference does it make? And there are benefits to blizzard from D3 botting.

1) Being engaged in the game exposes people to cross-game advertising and promotions and keeps their mind within the blizzard ecosystem - how many paid for Blizzcon, or bought heroes of the storm who otherwise would not have?

2) Many of us have purchased 2-20 legitimate copies of the game.

3) Accessibility, we have had posts from people with legitimate physical and physiological disabilities who could otherwise not be able to play and enjoy the game.

But lets say botting was completely stopped, this would not solve the problem i am describing and not prevent streamers from farming the gear. They earn enough money from streaming to hire someone at minimum wage to play on their accounts to farm.
 
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A D3 ban wave will be mostly in favor of Blizzard.

They don't charge monthly fees, so no loss there. Most of the people who got banned will get new accounts because let's admit it, getting banned won't stop us, only getting bored will. So they will be selling new accounts and making profit of a ban wave.
I think the new sales will cover the loss of the next expansions sales if there will be any.

Also, they will be able to tell to other players that they did what they have to do, so the game is fair again, bla bla bla, which we all know not true.

So, in my opinion, the only reason why they didn't do it is probably they didn't have time to deal with it yet or couldn't figure out a good way to detect bot users so far.
 
I will say goodbye to D3 if i got banned.
This game is dead and the only thing makes it going until now for me is DB.
I hope Blizz know how to deal with posts like "Game is dead", "No one to play with", "No one plays nice and toss me the item i need", "Cannot find a bounty game"... after the ban.

And you know what are more than bots in D3? Crybabies.
 
When these threads come up, I always have to go back to a simple question; HOW are they going to detect your bot?

It's not like they can screenshot your game and see some visual augmentation. They have to go off of statistics provided you are not modifying your game in anyway.

How could they catch you if someone were to
  • Download YAR,
  • set their bot up to change between all aspects of adventurer,
  • set random gaps in the hours of day and days of the week, then change this matrix weekly,
  • never play a session over 10 hours,
  • set session lengths to vary from 6-10 hours, occasionally tossing a 3 hour one in,
  • Always have "break session" of at least 6-8 hours or more
  • randomly toss a few full days off in for good measure.

How would blizzard EVER figure it out.

Clearly botting for 5000 hours in a month is very noticeable (basically 24/7/30).

A hardcore player, like a streamer, might do 10 hours a day and a couple hours logged in outside of that time. That halves the time to about 2500 hours a month.

Imagine if we could have YAR regulate it's own random schedule based on set "breaks" and "max session length" rules. Then get it to swap characters for different runs, use different folders or .xml files to alternate builds and settings, it would be truly set it and forget it and Blizzard couldn't really stop it.
 
you know 24/7 is not accumulating 5000hours per month :D (24*7*30 wtf lol)
Only 720.
 
TwoCigars said:
Personally, as soon as a new patch is announced, I stop botting as anything I do will be pointless anyways within a month or so. Doing this I haven't had an account banned since the launch of season 2 (lost main account, had been botting for 3 months 24/7).
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Does this mean you'll stop NOW that 2.4 was announced at blizzcon or a few weeks before S4 ends (supposed to end late Dec.)?
 
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