RebornBuddy Forums
Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Blizzard Has Sued Us
- Thread starter Hawker
- Start date
diller
New Member
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2010
- Messages
- 126
uhhmmm Blizzard!!! How about ur fckin self ??.... it is possible to buy companions which u can replace on the AH and then earn gold.... isnt that gold selling lol.... Go sue someone else... if u kill HB it would show up shortly under a new name or down under....
Glad Mr Fish works though lolI'd support that "down under" here in Australia, Blizzard shafted me recently and I am looking to return the favor.
Lovemonkey
New Member
- Joined
- Nov 15, 2011
- Messages
- 477
Blizzard cant make it against the law, they are a billion dollar company yes, but no amount of money can change the law.
The grounds they are sewing HB on are pretty pathetic, the only reason they got glider is by blizzard saying they abused their software to get the bot undetected. (ie, they fucked about with warden)
But to my understanding HB doesnt do that, they have a way of keeping the bot undetected without having a destructive effect on blizzard.
imdasandman
Active Member
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2011
- Messages
- 1,207
No I am pretty sure Blizz did not shaft you... You prob chose to use their product in a way which they do not see fit and took their license(account) away from you... Botting has it's consequences.
whatcha413
Member
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2010
- Messages
- 930
money cant change the law lawlz best comment i read all day. Wtf do big companys do everyday then lol
Dam blizzard and suing bot makers, they ruined glider one of the best bots ever made, but honorbuddy blows them away with the ability to quest!
Soon blizz will prob start a massive ban wave like they did to the glider users.
So get your toons to 85 and be done with it or take the chance on losing it all.
I lost my very 1st account with 20 max level toons on it and I used glider on them all, and blizz ban it forever with no chance of ever appealing it.
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD!
Soon blizz will prob start a massive ban wave like they did to the glider users.
So get your toons to 85 and be done with it or take the chance on losing it all.
I lost my very 1st account with 20 max level toons on it and I used glider on them all, and blizz ban it forever with no chance of ever appealing it.
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD!
Lovemonkey
New Member
- Joined
- Nov 15, 2011
- Messages
- 477
They do nothing, blizzard makes new content and supports its millions of customers.
They dont change the law thats for certain.
kravitz
New Member
- Joined
- Dec 9, 2011
- Messages
- 376
imdasandman
Active Member
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2011
- Messages
- 1,207
Blizz isn't a big enough company to change laws just saying.. They are only worth at least on the Stock market $14bil right now of course that does not include cash reserves etc.
ATVI stock quote - Activision Blizzard, Inc stock price - NASDAQ.com
the companies that can pay off congressmen and such range in worth of prob more like $200+ billion.... Blizzard/Activision is a very successful company but they do not have really any legislative pull.
Lovemonkey
New Member
- Joined
- Nov 15, 2011
- Messages
- 477
It was said a few weeks back that apple is worth over $400billion as a company now and are richer then the US government 
I lol'd at that
I lol'd at that
mikeclark797
New Member
- Joined
- Dec 17, 2011
- Messages
- 25
Why I bot
the reason I bought this bot is because of the blizzard assholes and honorbuddy's need to get the money to fight the lawsuite. frankly I got banned for econ exploit (perma-bann) and I did not run a bot at all, i was just good at working the AH. they did not believe me so i lost my main account. So I got another, and I bought pirox until they died. Now I have this. If i get banned I will give up wow but for now I bot the crap out of the game (within reason). there are two reasons I feel I need to support the botters.
First this is a after all a game. a game company needs to adjust its economy not its players. Other game companies do have eula agreements that say dont screw around in the game, but they don't ban the player, they will suspend you for a few hours or days, but they know what side the bread is buttered on. Eve online for example automated some of thier game (it plays itself for training) they also let you sell a pilot license online and get like a billion credits. That is eve sells perks and regulates it. here is a kick for you, Susanexpress is a gold seller, I have seen them and their web site up since 2006 and they are still in business, they even spam in chat. turns out they are in fact a part of sony-korea which owns or is part of activision. So here is blizzerd banning people for using services thier parent company in effect provides. Ok so thats one side.
the other side is this, the lawsuits so far have not been about copyright strictly, the last ruling created a cool new case law that floored me. Blizzard says *(and the court agreed) that the products of you playing the game, that is the data caused by your character (in copyright terms the non-literal elements) are in fact copyrighted works of blizzard. Bots tamper with that they say, and so interfere with blizards copyright. it gets better, because the agreement you wont do that is in fact part of the EULA of the game (which is a contract) once they prove infringement they prove basically contract violation. now contract violation carries a lot higher financial penalties, so you are in fact getting to leverage contract level damages for copyright infringement. Ah, but it gets better. You can accidentally infringe on copyright and not be personally liable, but this is not the case in contract law, in which you are either guilty or not, and if guilty personally and in some cases criminally liable.
but so what its a game, well, it gets better. if you write a piece of software (any software) that reads the file of another program and does something you have infringed upon that software. you are liable, even if you did not know that it was against its EULA. taken to an extream you could argue that because I use microsoft word to write a novel, the novel is a non-literal product of word (that is a product of you interacting with word) and therefore as the non-literal product is the copyright of the owner of word, the novel belongs to microsoft.
so this is a VERY big deal to software developers like me. I didnt bot, would never have thought about it, until I got banned, and blizzard could never give me any reason for it. next day I supported the botters, and now I will buy bots even if I no longer play.
frankly its all ridiculous, in another industry what we do might harm the company, but we pay to play this way, blizzard has made its money. and as far as I know they have NEVER been able to show tangible evidence that the game play was impaired in any way.
my 2 cents, sorry for the length
the reason I bought this bot is because of the blizzard assholes and honorbuddy's need to get the money to fight the lawsuite. frankly I got banned for econ exploit (perma-bann) and I did not run a bot at all, i was just good at working the AH. they did not believe me so i lost my main account. So I got another, and I bought pirox until they died. Now I have this. If i get banned I will give up wow but for now I bot the crap out of the game (within reason). there are two reasons I feel I need to support the botters.
First this is a after all a game. a game company needs to adjust its economy not its players. Other game companies do have eula agreements that say dont screw around in the game, but they don't ban the player, they will suspend you for a few hours or days, but they know what side the bread is buttered on. Eve online for example automated some of thier game (it plays itself for training) they also let you sell a pilot license online and get like a billion credits. That is eve sells perks and regulates it. here is a kick for you, Susanexpress is a gold seller, I have seen them and their web site up since 2006 and they are still in business, they even spam in chat. turns out they are in fact a part of sony-korea which owns or is part of activision. So here is blizzerd banning people for using services thier parent company in effect provides. Ok so thats one side.
the other side is this, the lawsuits so far have not been about copyright strictly, the last ruling created a cool new case law that floored me. Blizzard says *(and the court agreed) that the products of you playing the game, that is the data caused by your character (in copyright terms the non-literal elements) are in fact copyrighted works of blizzard. Bots tamper with that they say, and so interfere with blizards copyright. it gets better, because the agreement you wont do that is in fact part of the EULA of the game (which is a contract) once they prove infringement they prove basically contract violation. now contract violation carries a lot higher financial penalties, so you are in fact getting to leverage contract level damages for copyright infringement. Ah, but it gets better. You can accidentally infringe on copyright and not be personally liable, but this is not the case in contract law, in which you are either guilty or not, and if guilty personally and in some cases criminally liable.
but so what its a game, well, it gets better. if you write a piece of software (any software) that reads the file of another program and does something you have infringed upon that software. you are liable, even if you did not know that it was against its EULA. taken to an extream you could argue that because I use microsoft word to write a novel, the novel is a non-literal product of word (that is a product of you interacting with word) and therefore as the non-literal product is the copyright of the owner of word, the novel belongs to microsoft.
so this is a VERY big deal to software developers like me. I didnt bot, would never have thought about it, until I got banned, and blizzard could never give me any reason for it. next day I supported the botters, and now I will buy bots even if I no longer play.
frankly its all ridiculous, in another industry what we do might harm the company, but we pay to play this way, blizzard has made its money. and as far as I know they have NEVER been able to show tangible evidence that the game play was impaired in any way.
my 2 cents, sorry for the length
kravitz
New Member
- Joined
- Dec 9, 2011
- Messages
- 376
It was said a few weeks back that apple is worth over $400billion as a company now and are richer then the US government
I lol'd at that
Yeah. The US has some serious dumbasses running businesses. At least 75% of that money should go directly into the economy; should only apply to large corporations. Hell large corporations receive more tax cuts than small business and small business is what makes (made) the US.
whatcha413
Member
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2010
- Messages
- 930
funny thing to add to this is that Blizzard signed a contract with a Private server Molten-Wow to allow them to use there game data and will not be shut down.
whatcha413
Member
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2010
- Messages
- 930
Blizzard is just like any other greedy company. if it makes them more money they will do it.
So make a deal with Blizzard tell them give you a large sum of cash to shut bot down.
Then shut the bot down.
Give business to another Admin.
Boom. Back in business and got them to give you cash
haha
So make a deal with Blizzard tell them give you a large sum of cash to shut bot down.
Then shut the bot down.
Give business to another Admin.
Boom. Back in business and got them to give you cash
haha
whatcha413
Member
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2010
- Messages
- 930
It was said a few weeks back that apple is worth over $400billion as a company now and are richer then the US government
I lol'd at that
That statement is EXTREMELY false.
United states is currently worth in 2008.[TABLE="width: 1"]
[TR]
[TD]2008
[/TD]
[TD]$56 trillion**
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
imdasandman
Active Member
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2011
- Messages
- 1,207
you are funny when they said Apple at $400 billion+ is worth more than the US GOVERNMENT not the total net worth of the country as a whole.....