hey from what i know... multiboxing it's legal so blizzard doesn't care if you have 100 accounts running from the same pc.. with the same mac address ...so i guess all the security measures are useless.. it is all about luck .. but i still think botting 24/7 is a little riskier ... anyway i'm pretty sure everyone that got banned made enough gold/$ to buy another key or even more...
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hey from what i know... multiboxing it's legal so blizzard doesn't care if you have 100 accounts running from the same pc.. with the same mac address ...so i guess all the security measures are useless.. it is all about luck .. but i still think botting 24/7 is a little riskier ... anyway i'm pretty sure everyone that got banned made enough gold/$ to buy another key or even more...
It is legal, but on the other hand you'r tagging yourself for hand investigation, sooner of later will get a ban. (they pretty much have everything logged u did on ur char, so they can search for infinity loops or common glitches on bots... and further ban all the alts/trade mules).
Also there's no person able to play 2 clients at same time (farm)... unless u have some kind of magic powers...
Pretty much running 2+ clients with same modem/mac... ur spoofing they scan with 2 packages per time instead of 1... so guess what? Hand Investigation
.But still if they can't find any infinity loop or alike, ur still not being banned...
That's not theory, its how any IT scan works... they need something for tag u as "bot" then a further investigation for ban w/o law issues, and they use logs for that.
They ain't looking for small gold farmers, those make economy keep on... they want the Chinese ones... just have that in mind.
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Ive been doing pretty much 24/7 on 20 accs since 1.5 of the A1 version, did 24/7 on 3 before that.
Still going stronk!
Only thing that have banned me is Sarkoth xP
Everyone is screaming IPs or MACs or what ever...
The truth is that pretty much all homes uses a router these days.
Personally i think they are still flagging people by trading money or items from the bot accs to the main accs!
And another thing, maybe you shouldnt just do one act over and over.
Even if you got gear for A3, you might wanna mix it up...
Ive always mixed my profiles with A2 goblins farms, A2 champ farms, my old Butcher profile and an old A3 profile ive had.
This is all profiles thats have existed for months and everyone could use, even though most of they are out of date atm.
I think y'all get the concept of what im trying to tell you here.
Edit when im talking about trading im talking about this:
Acc A get more and more gold and items from Acc B.
Acc B just loses ton of gold and items and gain nothing.
Which player would give all their money to a friend, ALL THE TIME?
What i do on all my 20 bots is that i have a heavy flow between money and items
on my accounts. I sell things to myself on GAH to trade gold, I buy good items on
GAH from myself to sell on RMAH.
This way all my accounts never GIVE money and this is this system i think have
saved me my accounts
Still going stronk!
Only thing that have banned me is Sarkoth xP
Everyone is screaming IPs or MACs or what ever...
The truth is that pretty much all homes uses a router these days.
Personally i think they are still flagging people by trading money or items from the bot accs to the main accs!
And another thing, maybe you shouldnt just do one act over and over.
Even if you got gear for A3, you might wanna mix it up...
Ive always mixed my profiles with A2 goblins farms, A2 champ farms, my old Butcher profile and an old A3 profile ive had.
This is all profiles thats have existed for months and everyone could use, even though most of they are out of date atm.
I think y'all get the concept of what im trying to tell you here.
Edit when im talking about trading im talking about this:
Acc A get more and more gold and items from Acc B.
Acc B just loses ton of gold and items and gain nothing.
Which player would give all their money to a friend, ALL THE TIME?
What i do on all my 20 bots is that i have a heavy flow between money and items
on my accounts. I sell things to myself on GAH to trade gold, I buy good items on
GAH from myself to sell on RMAH.
This way all my accounts never GIVE money and this is this system i think have
saved me my accounts
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wow, how the hell you manage 20 account with champs farms, there's like thousands of itens every hour, im running 5 atm and im almost killing myself
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Giles stashreplacer? =Swow, how the hell you manage 20 account with champs farms, there's like thousands of itens every hour, im running 5 atm and im almost killing myself
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still alot stuff to manage sell
i got like 200 itens on hold that worth 500k+ becouse i dont have enought auction slots so you probably sell only super rare ones?
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How many families do you think having their kids playing this game, the same time?It is legal, but on the other hand you'r tagging yourself for hand investigation, sooner of later will get a ban. (they pretty much have everything logged u did on ur char, so they can search for infinity loops or common glitches on bots... and further ban all the alts/trade mules).
Also there's no person able to play 2 clients at same time (farm)... unless u have some kind of magic powers...
Pretty much running 2+ clients with same modem/mac... ur spoofing they scan with 2 packages per time instead of 1... so guess what? Hand Investigation
But still if they can't find any infinity loop or alike, ur still not being banned...
That's not theory, its how any IT scan works... they need something for tag u as "bot" then a further investigation for ban w/o law issues, and they use logs for that.
They ain't looking for small gold farmers, those make economy keep on... they want the Chinese ones... just have that in mind.
I dont think blizzard want to have their GM looking into hundered of thousand of kids playing with eiter little brother from the same router... Make no sense, sry!
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Well i save alot of items and trade they around so i always can have 10 slots on GAH on all accounts!still alot stuff to manage sell
so you probably sell only super rare ones?
99% of the stuff i find goes to salvage!
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last question, whats your values on gearscore?
80k/20k/15k?
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Trade secretlast question, whats your values on gearscore?
Edit: have never even told giles since i dont want him to release it to the public xP
That's why I said Chinese farmers... they scan for some fixed stuff... the first of then is package/s, I don't work on blizz networks so can't say what kind of setup they have there... but believe me, what really saved u is the market trading instead of char trading... That's one of the first thing they look for...
Same mac... trade between same act, happens 2-3 times in last 4-5 days... oh u have an alt... that's not hard for scan for on logs...
If ur using 2 comps they have different macs... Although they pass trough only a single router... witch is registered, on their log...
Btw, their "gm" team that bans is a bunch of university guys winning not much then 300 bucks month.. for doing that whole day
Their devs doesn't work with those stuffs.
Also they wont ban u for just a criteria on the scan, u would need to hit like 4-5 and then be tagged at logs by hands, witch u takes really cares, not like alot of people here.
They can't ban u, if they ain't 100% sure... cuz that would be too much hassle with laws... they need provs... so the pre-scan is just not safe... I talking on business view, since I handled with those for years... not "kids playing"
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Half of the stuff you say doesnt even make sense, some do but alot dont.That's why I said Chinese farmers... they scan for some fixed stuff... the first of then is package/s, I don't work on blizz networks so can't say what kind of setup they have there... but believe me, what really saved u is the market trading instead of char trading... That's one of the first thing they look for...
Same mac... trade between same act, happens 2-3 times in last 4-5 days... oh u have an alt... that's not hard for scan for on logs...
If ur using 2 comps they have different macs... Although they pass trough only a single router... witch is registered, on their log...
Btw, their "gm" team that bans is a bunch of university guys winning not much then 300 bucks month.. for doing that whole day
Their devs doesn't work with those stuffs.
Also they wont ban u for just a criteria on the scan, u would need to hit like 4-5 and then be tagged at logs by hands, witch u takes really cares, not like alot of people here.
They can't ban u, if they ain't 100% sure... cuz that would be too much hassle with laws... they need provs... so the pre-scan is just not safe... I talking on business view, since I handled with those for years... not "kids playing"
I wont argue with you because you have your "set of mind".
But im just sharing BY experience.
Also i work at a ISP company and i happend to work all day with packages.
So please dont start to BS about sending packages xP
Btw how come people with VMware, whole sets of dynamic IPs and different installs of D3, get banned too?
If your theory where the IT factor. Shouldnt those people be bulletproof?
Ive been doing pretty much 24/7 on 20 accs since 1.5 of the A1 version, did 24/7 on 3 before that.
Still going stronk!
Only thing that have banned me is Sarkoth xP
Everyone is screaming IPs or MACs or what ever...
The truth is that pretty much all homes uses a router these days.
Personally i think they are still flagging people by trading money or items from the bot accs to the main accs!
And another thing, maybe you shouldnt just do one act over and over.
Even if you got gear for A3, you might wanna mix it up...
Ive always mixed my profiles with A2 goblins farms, A2 champ farms, my old Butcher profile and an old A3 profile ive had.
This is all profiles thats have existed for months and everyone could use, even though most of they are out of date atm.
I think y'all get the concept of what im trying to tell you here.
Edit when im talking about trading im talking about this:
Acc A get more and more gold and items from Acc B.
Acc B just loses ton of gold and items and gain nothing.
Which player would give all their money to a friend, ALL THE TIME?
What i do on all my 20 bots is that i have a heavy flow between money and items
on my accounts. I sell things to myself on GAH to trade gold, I buy good items on
GAH from myself to sell on RMAH.
This way all my accounts never GIVE money and this is this system i think have
saved me my accounts
do you use VM or V.P.N?
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Okay i wanted to post here to clear things up.
I used to load via VMware, with diff ip via a p r o x y, For each client. I do not do this no longer. Lately i been loading for the past month and half with Champ runs and not been banned yet. I run with same IP, on the Same PC with no vmware. I am only using DB/D3/ISBoxer.
I believe people are being banned because of their far to long run times, My bots run for only around 8 hours a day. And they take RANDOM breaks using Breaktaker while its playing. And it takes randomized breaks in the pause's after its done its Champ runs for a rest.
I used to load via VMware, with diff ip via a p r o x y, For each client. I do not do this no longer. Lately i been loading for the past month and half with Champ runs and not been banned yet. I run with same IP, on the Same PC with no vmware. I am only using DB/D3/ISBoxer.
I believe people are being banned because of their far to long run times, My bots run for only around 8 hours a day. And they take RANDOM breaks using Breaktaker while its playing. And it takes randomized breaks in the pause's after its done its Champ runs for a rest.
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Yeah, i do agree.
You dont want a "safe" account, you want a MAINSTREAM account.
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And another thing, One of my accounts that im champ farming is an OLD BANNED account that i had appealed. FYI.
I sell all my items except good ones i swap to a diff account to sell for RMAH via the bots for gold. im running around 6 champ bots atm and no problems at all.
I sell all my items except good ones i swap to a diff account to sell for RMAH via the bots for gold. im running around 6 champ bots atm and no problems at all.
Did they made a script for spoof the modem mac adress and also the adapter mac adress everyday? Don't think so... "Dynamic ip" Is not Dynamic Mac Adress...
I use exclusives links for each adapter, with provides me unique mac adapter+modem then it falls to the isp routers.... That's bulletproof... at last they can't link each acc at all... unless they ban the whole isp area(all packages coming under my isp router to this zone)...
Most of other stuff are just illusion...
What appeal did you do and what did you say in it? Can PM me if you don't want to reveal to public.
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Well you can use more then 10 computers under 1 MAC ID!
I know alot of appartment complexes that use 1 NAT Swtich to give all the 100+ appartments internet!
Most of the time they use the same IP and its under a gigabyte line. Its pretty common here in Sweden i would think its common in the US aswell!
I dont think blizzard wants to ban ALL the people playing D3 in that appartment complex.
But if you got something that you think working, thanks for sharing. We all just want to not get banned!