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Black Mage rotations?

Cloud30000 said:
Could you post the log? I can't test it myself until I get my BLM up to 60

I've updated that post with a version that adds a 100ms delay in between spell cast attempts, in case that is what is causing the crash:

Ultima\Rotations\Methods\BlackMage.cs
View attachment 184389

Also, be sure to select Quelling Strikes and Raging Strikes as cross-class skills for this rotation.
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I just tested the rotation with this beeing the newest file and it just stops when it should cast Blizzard 4 to refresh enochian.
Also it casts Blizzard 1 in between casts now and then, for example after the initial Blizard 3 > Thunder 1 it always casts a Blizzard 1 on top and later in the opener as well.
 
mumitroll said:
I just tested the rotation with this beeing the newest file and it just stops when it should cast Blizzard 4 to refresh enochian.
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I think that is because Enochian ran out already, which then locks up the routine since it is set to only run that exact order regardless of whether the spells in the order can be cast. I've added a conditional that will skip FireIV and BlizzardIV in the rotation if Enochian is not active:
**Later version now in original and latest post**

mumitroll said:
Also it casts Blizzard 1 in between casts now and then, for example after the initial Blizard 3 > Thunder 1 it always casts a Blizzard 1 on top and later in the opener as well.
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That's not actually the initial/opener at that point; it isn't running the opener (either due to not being detected as out of combat or due to a cooldown not being ready), it's running the Enochian/Sharpcast only rotation:
Valpsjuk said:
Or Possbily:

Opener (with Quelling Strikes if you're in a real fight, obviously)
Ley Lines > Blizzard 3 > Thunder > Sharp Cast > Fire 3 > Enochian > Fire > Raging Strikes > Fire IV > Fire IV > Fire IV > Firestarter > Convert > Swiftcast > Fire IV > Fire IV

Core Rotation (two options depending on Enochian timer. You'll need to do this twice before Enochian and Sharpcast are off CD)
Blizzard III > Thunder > Blizzard IV > Fire III > Fire IV > Fire IV > Fire > Fire IV > Fire IV
Blizzard III > Blizzard IV > Thunder > Fire III > Fire IV > Fire IV > Fire > Fire IV > Fire IV

When Enochian + Sharpcast are off cooldown
Blizzard III > Sharpcast > Thunder > Blizzard > Thundercloud > Enochian > Fire III > Fire IV > Fire IV > Fire > Fire IV > Fire IV

When Enochian + Sharpcast + Swiftcast + Convert are off cooldown
Blizzard III > Thunder > Blizzard > Sharpcast > Fire 3 > Enochian > Fire > Fire IV > Fire IV > Fire IV > Firestarter > Convert > Swiftcast > Fire IV > Fire IV
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Cloud30000 said:
I think that is because Enochian ran out already, which then locks up the routine since it is set to only run that exact order regardless of whether the spells in the order can be cast. I've added a conditional that will skip FireIV and BlizzardIV in the rotation if Enochian is not active:
View attachment 184612



That's not actually the initial/opener at that point; it isn't running the opener (either due to not being detected as out of combat or due to a cooldown not being ready), it's running the Enochian/Sharpcast only rotation:
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HM I see - I was definitely still in Enochian when it started to cast Blizzard 1.
Also I'm very certain that I was still in Enochian with 5s left and it did nothing.
Anyway I'm testing right now your changes :)

(this post was posted right after my testing)

here's a copy paste from act
http://pastebin.com/XEs6m0jF

In fact, Firestarter was not used after the 3 Fire 4s.
Enochian still had 7s left before the routine stopped doing anything.
 
mumitroll said:
HM I see - I was definitely still in Enochian when it started to cast Blizzard 1.
Also I'm very certain that I was still in Enochian with 5s left and it did nothing.
Anyway I'm testing right now your changes :)

(this post was posted right after my testing)

here's a copy paste from act
http://pastebin.com/XEs6m0jF

In fact, Firestarter was not used after the 3 Fire 4s.
Enochian still had 7s left before the routine stopped doing anything.
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There is no checks for the Enochian aura anywhere except before casting FireIV/BlizzIV (though I will need to add a delay after casting Enochian to allow time for the buff to appear on the char before trying to cast FireIV/BlizzIV), since the rotations are strictly based on the cooldowns instead. It sounds like the entire rotation is either wrong or missing more details. When should it be checking for the Enochian Aura and what should it do when the aura is or is not present?

Before I can really get the routine right, I need exact details on every second of the rotation and what to do under any and every condition you want it to be checking for.

Here is an extra check to wait 6 seconds or until Enochian or ThunderDebuff is active after casting Enocian or Thunder respectively:
**Later version now in original and latest post**


Can you post a log of when the entire rotation stops completely if it is still doing so?
 
I added some Log Messages so you can tell exactly which rotation it is on:
**Later version now in original and latest post**
 
It did a Scathe because I moved per accident.
But yeah not Blizz4 kinda messed up.

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[17:07:26.025 N] Starting Combat Assist
[17:07:31.353 N] [Ultima] Beginning Enochian/Sharpcast/Swiftcast/Convert rotation of BlizzardIII,Thunder,Blizzard,Sharpcast,FireIII,Enochian,Fire,FireIV,FireIV,FireIV,FireIII/Firestarter,Convert,Swiftcast,FireIV,FireIV.
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[17:07:31.387 N] [Ultima] Ability: Scathe
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[17:07:33.780 N] [Ultima] Ability: Blizzard III
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[17:07:37.280 N] [Ultima] Ability: Thunder
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[17:07:39.745 N] [Ultima] Ability: Blizzard
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[17:07:57.681 N] [Ultima] Ability: Convert
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[17:07:58.580 N] [Ultima] Ability: Swiftcast
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Cloud30000 said:
If you give me a basic rotation for BLM with can be described in one or two paragraphs, I may be able to throw it together in Ultima. If it takes more then two paragraphs, or you need to link to a website describing it, then it is too complicated for me to put together without being familiar with BLM.
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Lv.60 doing 1130dps across 6 minutes.

Ley Lines > Thunder > Sharpcast > Fire III > Enochian > Fire > Raging Strikes > Fire IV > Fire IV > Fire IV > Firestarter > Swiftcast > Fire IV > Convert > Fire IV > Blizzard 3 > Thunder > Blizzard IV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3S...sEEthLVGE&annotation_id=annotation_2199214881
 
mumitroll said:
It did a Scathe because I moved per accident.
But yeah not Blizz4 kinda messed up.

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[17:07:31.353 N] [Ultima] Beginning Enochian/Sharpcast/Swiftcast/Convert rotation of BlizzardIII,Thunder,Blizzard,Sharpcast,FireIII,Enochian,Fire,FireIV,FireIV,FireIV,FireIII/Firestarter,Convert,Swiftcast,FireIV,FireIV.
[17:07:31.387 D] DoAction Spell 156 0x4000100E
[17:07:31.387 N] [Ultima] Ability: Scathe
[17:07:33.780 D] DoAction Spell 154 0x4000100E
[17:07:33.780 N] [Ultima] Ability: Blizzard III
[17:07:37.280 D] DoAction Spell 144 0x4000100E
[17:07:37.280 N] [Ultima] Ability: Thunder
[17:07:39.745 D] DoAction Spell 142 0x4000100E
[17:07:39.745 N] [Ultima] Ability: Blizzard
[17:07:42.347 D] DoAction Spell 3574 0x10024BAA
...
[17:07:58.580 N] [Ultima] Ability: Swiftcast
[17:08:00.094 D] DoAction Spell 3577 0x4000100E
[17:08:00.095 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fire IV
[17:08:02.817 D] DoAction Spell 3577 0x4000100E
[17:08:02.817 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fire IV
[17:08:05.814 D] DoAction Spell 154 0x4000100E
[17:08:05.814 N] [Ultima] Ability: Blizzard III
[17:08:08.255 D] DoAction Spell 144 0x4000100E
[17:08:08.255 N] [Ultima] Ability: Thunder
[17:08:10.695 D] DoAction Spell 142 0x4000100E
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Ahh, I completely forgot to break the rotations when complete, so it just looped back and kept repeating whatever rotation it was in.
Try this:
View attachment BlackMage.cs
 
few things, new cs file u just recently posted fixed a few things but here are the issues

after his goes through the opener then 2 of the core rotations once enochian drops off naturally it doesnt re apply it to start from the opener. the base blm rotation is

opener 1x
2x core

repeat

also say u start enochian a tad late so u dont have the full timing for the opener , once it gets to its 3rd rotation it will cast thunder after bliz III with less then 3/4 seconds on enochian instead of casting the blizzard four.
 
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You really can't chain a whole BLM rotation, it gets screwed up heavily at the first movement.
 
goldenlion said:
You really can't chain a whole BLM rotation, it gets screwed up heavily at the first movement.
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This happens with summoner as well. I Noticed with Black Mage and Summoner, if a cast is interrupted by movement, the routine will wait a second, and skip the spell that was being cast and move on to the next spell in the rotation. I am trying to figure out why this is the case, because it's a signifigant dps loss. I could Imagine it's quite a massive dps loss for Black mage as well. Will have to see if Endus knows what is causing the delay...
 
Was anybody able to patch something together from the several different contributions that worked relatively ok? Im fine with the delay after moving, I'm used to it now. As long as its using max level spells.
 
I'm reading through all these threads trying to find a decent BLM CR. Did people settle on one that was ok, or is it just a lost cause trying to code this for Lv60?
 
stewiethecat said:
This happens with summoner as well. I Noticed with Black Mage and Summoner, if a cast is interrupted by movement, the routine will wait a second, and skip the spell that was being cast and move on to the next spell in the rotation. I am trying to figure out why this is the case, because it's a signifigant dps loss. I could Imagine it's quite a massive dps loss for Black mage as well. Will have to see if Endus knows what is causing the delay...
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This is likely due to doublecast prevention logic. And should be able to be handled by removing the latest entry for doublecast prevention upon that spell being interrupted by movement. I am not a CR expert but have read just about the entire codebase for ultima, kupper, and magitek. I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to fix this.
 
ExMatt said:
This is likely due to doublecast prevention logic. And should be able to be handled by removing the latest entry for doublecast prevention upon that spell being interrupted by movement. I am not a CR expert but have read just about the entire codebase for ultima, kupper, and magitek. I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to fix this.
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I'd kiss you if manage to make a working BLM CR
 
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