best monk build discussion.

[sleep]

so my idea is to set up a dps monk with life steal to make up for the lower resistance. with dps synergies to make sweeping wind as strong as possible....

so is this a good idea or not?

combination attack
guiding light
one with everything

deadly reach - foresight
crippling wave - breaking wave
mantra of conviction - overawe
sweeping wind - ?
breath of heaven - blazing wrath
uncertain.

so.. 8% + 8% + 16% + 18% +10% + 15%

this brings a 45% damage aura to 120%, doing 24-48% more damage with mantra of conviction

i think the problem here is that these increases may not include full weapon damage, but only a percentage of what the current attack is doing...

so a 45% damage aura with 18% increased damage does not mean 63%, but 53%.. and then do the other synergies expand this for example or just the base 45% ? i don't know, there may be a best order of which boosts to activate.

i'm thinking a good 6th active skill may be a third combination attack skill, but i don't know what it should be.

opinions?

 

[Jackie1234]

I run
BoH Blazing wrath
Blinding Flash Faith in the light
Serenity Ascension
MoC overawe
Fist of Thunder Thunderclap
Sweeping Winds Cyclone.

See Sweeping winds takes a snapshot of your damage when it activates. the way giles has it set up atm is that it uses BoH for damage boost Blinding Flash for damage boost then Sweeping winds so at the moment my Sweeping winds is activated my 65k dps monk is over 100k dps so it really makes sweeping winds do alot of damage.

 

[shelton8r]

I run
BoH Blazing wrath
Blinding Flash Faith in the light
Serenity Ascension
MoC overawe
Fist of Thunder Thunderclap
Sweeping Winds Cyclone.

See Sweeping winds takes a snapshot of your damage when it activates. the way giles has it set up atm is that it uses BoH for damage boost Blinding Flash for damage boost then Sweeping winds so at the moment my Sweeping winds is activated my 65k dps monk is over 100k dps so it really makes sweeping winds do alot of damage.

I also run this build as a DW monk and it is very effective.

 

[silverwolfnz]

What weapons do you use? w/stats?

 

[Jackie1234]

also i wouldnt use guiding light you have to heal "another player" with your direct heal the followers dont count.

I use one with everything seize the initiative and the guardians path and i Dual wield.

I use 2 fist weapons atm both with crit hit damage 3.0 life steal and socket with 100% crit hit gems in them.

 

[shelton8r]

High dps (900+) MH fist or sword with LoH or LS (LS better for these builds imo), crit dam, and a socket. For OH I use a Won Kim Lau (spelling?) legendary fist weapon for the increased lightning damage (25% or so). This also needs a socket. High dex, crit, LoH are nice bonuses. Try to get at least 700 dps on the OH, higher is better. A good WKL can be expensive.

Only use a WKL if you are going with a FoT build, obviously. If you want to use the build you posted you'd prob just want an OH similar to the MH I mentioned.

 

[Jackie1234]

High dps (900+) MH fist or sword with LoH or LS (LS better for these builds imo), crit dam, and a socket. For OH I use a Won Kim Lau (spelling?) legendary fist weapon for the increased lightning damage (25% or so). This also needs a socket. High dex, crit, LoH are nice bonuses. Try to get at least 700 dps on the OH, higher is better. A good WKL can be expensive.

Only use a WKL if you are going with a FoT build, obviously. If you want to use the build you posted you'd prob just want an OH similar to the MH I mentioned.

i have very little LoH Life steal works much better for this build because cyclones and the direct sweeping winds damage doesnt proc LOH but they do Proc Life steal.

 

[shelton8r]

i have very little LoH Life steal works much better for this build because cyclones and the direct sweeping winds damage doesnt proc LOH but they do Proc Life steal.

Yeah, that's why I said LS is better for these builds in the post you quoted LoH is still effective, but not as good as LS.

 

[Jackie1234]

Yeah, that's why I said LS is better for these builds in the post you quoted LoH is still effective, but not as good as LS.

i was agreeing with you was just making clear for the guy why LS is better.

 

[tesslerc]

check the build i posted under guides...
unless you want to play mp4+ and have a LOT of gold to put in for a full inna set cyclone with a bot just isn't worth it.

Without an inna set the sweeping winds will end very fast, meaning every few seconds re-cast 75 spirit lost.

 

[shelton8r]

I used tesslerc's build for a while and I like it, but I found a good DW build to ultimately be more efficient for not that much more investment. If you are on a budget though, that build is a great place to start.

 

[Jackie1234]

check the build i posted under guides...
unless you want to play mp4+ and have a LOT of gold to put in for a full inna set cyclone with a bot just isn't worth it.

Without an inna set the sweeping winds will end very fast, meaning every few seconds re-cast 75 spirit lost.

well since sweeping winds resets time with each main attack its up the entire time i fight each elite pack and thats all you really need Sweeping winds for i 1 shot mobs in white mobs in mp2 so sweeping winds is really just for elites.

 

[tesslerc]

well since sweeping winds resets time with each main attack its up the entire time i fight each elite pack and thats all you really need Sweeping winds for i 1 shot mobs in white mobs in mp2 so sweeping winds is really just for elites.

Well it takes me ~5 seconds per elite pack, meaning it will barely shoot 1 cylone before they are down.
My build makes it keep Sweeping Winds up 24/7 for a 1 time cast during your whole run, and all that spirit you gain - 400% AoE Dmg!

Meaning instead of a few wasted seconds of low dps until your sweeping winds gets to 3 stacks.. and then until it starts shooting cyclones, you will get perm 3 stacks and insta 400% aoe dmg on finding an elite pack

Again if you can afford an inna set (and want to buy it for your bot) then cyclones is the best option as its a free to cast spell.

 

[Jackie1234]

Well it takes me ~5 seconds per elite pack, meaning it will barely shoot 1 cylone before they are down.
My build makes it keep Sweeping Winds up 24/7 for a 1 time cast during your whole run, and all that spirit you gain - 400% AoE Dmg!

Meaning instead of a few wasted seconds of low dps until your sweeping winds gets to 3 stacks.. and then until it starts shooting cyclones, you will get perm 3 stacks and insta 400% aoe dmg on finding an elite pack

Again if you can afford an inna set (and want to buy it for your bot) then cyclones is the best option as its a free to cast spell.

hmm? ya my bot finds an elite and insta pops both skills and gets cyclones right away. and thats with only 46% crit chance. but ill check out your build.

 

[Jackie1234]

the build you have there is nice you seem against dual wielding monks it didnt cost me 50mil nor did it cost me 30mil to make my monk. I have 600 AR 1.95 APS 500% crit hit damage 46% crit chance 500 life on hit and 6% Life steal 77k dps it only cost me about 15-20mil to build.

 

[sleep]

I run
BoH Blazing wrath
Blinding Flash Faith in the light
Serenity Ascension
MoC overawe
Fist of Thunder Thunderclap
Sweeping Winds Cyclone.

See Sweeping winds takes a snapshot of your damage when it activates. the way giles has it set up atm is that it uses BoH for damage boost Blinding Flash for damage boost then Sweeping winds so at the moment my Sweeping winds is activated my 65k dps monk is over 100k dps so it really makes sweeping winds do alot of damage.

good info.. does this snapshot take place only after sweeping wind is first used or does it take again for each stack of sweeping wind?

and which sweeping wind rune is the best? i'm using fire

i use a skorn btw.

i'm thinking dual wielding may be better for a monk than a barb simply bc the monk has a much lower crit rate, so more hits are more important for the monk. it may be of little significance though.


ok so, if you activate sweeping wind with all dps synergies on and then these synergies expire, will sweeping wind still be running at this max dps provding sweeping wind did not expire?

 

[Jackie1234]

good info.. does this snapshot take place only after sweeping wind is first used or does it take again for each stack of sweeping wind?

and which sweeping wind rune is the best? i'm using fire

i use a skorn btw.

i'm thinking dual wielding may be better for a monk than a barb simply bc the monk has a much lower crit rate, so more hits are more important for the monk. it may be of little significance though.


ok so, if you activate sweeping wind with all dps synergies on and then these synergies expire, will sweeping wind still be running at this max dps provding sweeping wind did not expire?

no it wont expire hense it being called a snap shot. so when you activate sweeping winds at 100k buffed dps it will based off that.

 

[kosin]

im using a very cheap yet very effective build....
about 15-20m for each monk to build
mh im using a high dps echoing fury with life on kill--- only cost about 4m for 1.1k+
oh im using a sun keeper with socket and life on kill---Yes im prefer using MF because i can get banned anytime before my paragon reaches high lvl so u can find good shit right now iwth 400% mf on mp1
about 700 res or so
40-50k hp is good
im using 7 sided strike onslaught
FoT
wrath
mantra of evasion---backlash
bladestorm
n acension

fleet footed
1 with everything
seize

my monk doesnt die---- only to fuked up mobs

rep me if u tried my build n it works good for u

 

[sleep]

how do you setup the bot to use combination attacks? mine is only using 1 attack

 

[sleep]

I run
BoH Blazing wrath
Blinding Flash Faith in the light
Serenity Ascension
MoC overawe
Fist of Thunder Thunderclap
Sweeping Winds Cyclone.

See Sweeping winds takes a snapshot of your damage when it activates. the way giles has it set up atm is that it uses BoH for damage boost Blinding Flash for damage boost then Sweeping winds so at the moment my Sweeping winds is activated my 65k dps monk is over 100k dps so it really makes sweeping winds do alot of damage.

why sweeping wind cyclone for 45% with random 20%s, instead of blade storm for a constant 60% ?