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think of it this way, niantic is a gunshop owner that rent out one of his guns with 50 bullets to you, the rule is to only shoot dummy scarecrow. You paid the fee and took the gun, but then you broke the rule and started shooting trees and neighborhood windows. Niantic took the gun back at the point when you still have 30 bullets left, do you think he should also give you back the money for the bullet that you haven't use?
 
SoraboyZ said:
think of it this way, niantic is a gunshop owner that rent out one of his guns with 50 bullets to you, the rule is to only shoot dummy scarecrow. You paid the fee and took the gun, but then you broke the rule and started shooting trees and neighborhood windows. Niantic took the gun back at the point when you still have 30 bullets left, do you think he should also give you back the money for the bullet that you haven't use?
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Worst analogy ever!
Comparing real threat and dmg with a game? Sir, pls just shut your mouth.
Even if we assume botting does financial dmg to Niantic.
 
Shit happens

SoraboyZ said:
think of it this way, niantic is a gunshop owner that rent out one of his guns with 50 bullets to you, the rule is to only shoot dummy scarecrow. You paid the fee and took the gun, but then you broke the rule and started shooting trees and neighborhood windows. Niantic took the gun back at the point when you still have 30 bullets left, do you think he should also give you back the money for the bullet that you haven't use?
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No the Niantic rent his "game" without the "coins", we all buy the "coins" with real money/credit card, which Niantic takes with his "game". That's robbery.

Interpretation:
game - gun
coins - bullet
 
AgentAtavar said:
Worst analogy ever!
Comparing real threat and dmg with a game? Sir, pls just shut your mouth.
Even if we assume botting does financial dmg to Niantic.
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May be my example was too complicated for you to understand. You were targeting the minor and not the major point so I will give you a much simpler one.

You bought a car (created a pokemon go account), then bought some nice accessories which is optional to put on your car (bought some coins which is optional on pokemon go shop to buy items for your pokemon go account), you drank and drove and got busted (you played then bot and got caught). You came back and whined and asked for refund on those accessories.
 
Vorlon said:
No the Niantic rent his "game" without the "coins", we all buy the "coins" with real money/credit card, which Niantic takes with his "game". That's robbery.

Interpretation:
game - gun
coins - bullet
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Coins are optional. Without the coin you still can play the game, without the bullet, the gun is just like a car without wheels. It is not my business to educate you guys about moral decision. It is your way of doing things. And I'm just merely giving an examples of similar actions.
 
SoraboyZ said:
May be my example was too complicated for you to understand. You were targeting the minor and not the major point so I will give you a much simpler one.

You bought a car (created a pokemon go account), then bought some nice accessories which is optional to put on your car (bought some coins which is optional on pokemon go shop to buy items for your pokemon go account), you drank and drove and got busted (you played then bot and got caught). You came back and whined and asked for refund on those accessories.
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Nah, your example is just crap.
2nd is slightly better but still... I did not buy a game, police will ban me off streets (for some time) but not necessarily take my car. Also Car manufacturer and seller have NO right to take anything away.
I know everybody is just trying to make easy analogies. It's just not working. Seller, operator and executioner have to be the same company / person.

Facts:
- Niantic changed their ToS to perm ban Cheaters
- They seem to handle it retroactive
- They inform nobody about what they did wrong (bc they think they don't have to bc of ToS)

If I rent a house (App), it's owners right to prohibit animals, smoking and so on (ToS).
If I let him do some renovation work (Coins), it's probably my own money I spend.
If I smoke continuously he can kick me out of the house (after a few steps before, I know).
If I have Visitors (3rd Party App like Go Stats, PokeVision, and so on), he can't do that.
If he never prohibited anything, he can't just come and tell me: I have new ToS, if you have ever harmed them you'll be out. And then kick me out not saying a single word about what I did wrong.

Again:
I have several botted Accounts (3) - only 1 is banned by now.
I also have a legit Account and I used some Apps (Go Stats, All G) and some Tracking Apps (Go Map, PokeVision, M Cristopher Live Map) for it. I did this BEFORE Niantic changed ToS.
So I'm not fighting for my Bot Account, but for my legit one.
 
There no point arguing which side is right or wrong. Those who wish to get the refund, requested and got it. Those who do not wish to get it, just leave it be. Its always personal perception on whether right or wrong in the matter.
 
yup! and always creating more accounts and continuing botting..like they said "gotta catch em all" NOW those Nianticians will be busy "catch em all (we botters)"
 
hayashiken0328 said:
yup! and always creating more accounts and continuing botting..like they said "gotta catch em all" NOW those Nianticians will be busy "catch em all (we botters)"
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i think they can caught us effortlessly, im not a progammer but i think they must have an antiban that can autoflagged our accounts if triggered that antiban, ex: if we catch pokemon more than 1000 pokmn in 10hours we will flagged, and if we flagged for 5 times our account will locked from server, then for 1-4days our account is checked automatically its history (how many pokemon we caught /hour, etc) and if they detect something not normal then bam!.. we got email next day stated that our account is terminated ( its automated email too)

ps: my main use pokefarmer, just 1, 8 use Ncr (u must know)
and 1 account have been banned accidentaly

so i think all of banning procces is 60% auto 40% manual lol xD
sory for my bad englis
 
exonine said:
i think they can caught us effortlessly, im not a progammer but i think they must have an antiban that can autoflagged our accounts if triggered that antiban, ex: if we catch pokemon more than 1000 pokmn in 10hours we will flagged, and if we flagged for 5 times our account will locked from server, then for 1-4days our account is checked automatically its history (how many pokemon we caught /hour, etc) and if they detect something not normal then bam!.. we got email next day stated that our account is terminated ( its automated email too)

ps: my main use pokefarmer, just 1, 8 use Ncr (u must know)
and 1 account have been banned accidentaly

so i think all of banning procces is 60% auto 40% manual lol xD
sory for my bad englis
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well be it then let us make them spend their 110% efforts for that remaining 40% manual process shall we?? long live the BOTS!!
 
well just to sum it up...

i don´t wish to get a refund it was simply a statement that i got the banhammer.......

i did the crime now i do the time

and in crime i mean botting
and in do time i mean Bot the shiiiiit out of pokemon

I knew the chance i took Using the bot so there are no one to blame but me pretty simple lost a little cash on it but hey what comes around goes around and im still walking in circles....
 
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