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Banned today!

Simply put, when I play the real game, I carry two mobile batteries (power banks) with me and a 3-meter charge cable, which in fact can last me longer than 24 hours if I want to, without the need of a power outlet.
At the peak of my play, I stepped outside my house 9 in the morning and never stopped playing until midnight, except during short lunch and dinner breaks --- and game crashes, of course.
And the ironic thing about botting is that I am kinda worried that bots rarely crash and thus does not behave like the real app.
There are far crazier "real" players than me, so I don't think playing time is the primary factor, especially there are banned users in this banwave that botted far less time for each account than I do.

Plus, the phone does not go into sleep mode if you turn on battery saver and orient it upside down, or if you connect it to a power source with the right setting turned on (Android).

Pokefarmer has implemented API detection long time ago, so API update has not been an issue (not sure about the current ban wave though).
A single mistake could purge all you have got. Right now it is just half year at the most, but what about the future? What about an account you hold for 1, 2 or even more years? Better safe than sorry.
A single mistake is more than too many, and I am not the only one who is careful here. In fact, even on this forum, people recommend to use test accounts after each API update before firing up the main ones.
Why do you think people recommend so?
Also I used pokefarmer before but did not like the UI and the lack of manual path. Currently I subscribe to the hashing service.

Steady is important, but greed is greed. :D The way you bot is actually less time spent on bot than I play by hand and on foot. It is very safe of course, but where is the greed? If no greed exists, what is the point of botting and holding multiple accounts?

Anyhow, One of my main points is that playing time length each day is not the primary factor. What is done and how things are done act as more important roles.
As for what trigger flags and bans, frankly every theory proposed here is pure speculation. Therefore, being careful is great, but how careful is for each individual to weigh and decide.

But, if one thinks one is careful, yet one bots multiple accounts at different locations on the same IP, and/or bots at a different country than the IP used, I can hardly call it careful botting behavior, regardless of how long one bots each day and how fast the bot travels.
 
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Anyhow, One of my main points is that playing time length each day is not the primary factor. What is done and how things are done act as more important roles.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that, truth be told neither of us know for sure beyond our own use case examples.

From the reports I've seen across multiple sites the majority of people banned have been accounts that are level 30 or higher and that did one or more of the following:

* Regularly botted for more than 4 hours a day
* Regularly botted at a faster than walking speed
* Teleported to snipe in short periods of time
* Botted in a country other than their own

Granted their are some exceptions (like a few people that tried to use their phone and bot at the same time lol) . . .

My main point is that I've not seen any indication of anyone banned that botted safe and conservatively. Most have had at least one or more "just sniped this one time", "just country hopped that one time", which as you point out puts them at risk.

To your API point, with the exception of 1.70, check the changelogs. The Devs are not making changes to the bot between API changes so if using the wrong API was a factor, as you indicated, EVERYONE would be banned during that cycle (like the big wave from the 1.70 trap), but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
 
Waiting for a while after each API change is, in my consideration, one of careful botting behaviors. Of course developers would be as careful as they could, but they are also humans.

As for your main point, I do agree the four points you listed each has a potential risk of its own. What I don't agree is how safe is the amount of time spent each day. Not just PoGo, it is very common for more devoted/hardcore players to spend on a game for a lot more than 4 hours each day (looking at the direction of South Korea). I don't have much disagreement with the other three points, except the bot would decelerate and accelerate between each pokemon encounter, so even the speed is set at 10kmh, it is actually a lot less when averaged out.
 
3 out of 6 accounts got banned today. I safely botted on those 3, and the last time I botted them were back in February 23.
The ones that survived were aggressively botted daily, even snipe.
Go figure
 
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3 out of 6 accounts got banned today. I safely botted on those 3, and the last time I botted them were back in March 23.
The ones that survived were aggressively botted daily, even snipe.
Go figure

I lost my other three accounts today. All six were banned in this wave. I wasn't aggressive with any of them.
 
3 out of 6 accounts got banned today. I safely botted on those 3, and the last time I botted them were back in March 23.
The ones that survived were aggressively botted daily, even snipe.
Go figure

What level were the accounts that were banned versus the ones that were not? What does "safely botted" mean to you? How long do you bot on an average day? How fast do you travel? Do you bot outside your country? Do you teleport to snipe (in or out of country), etc.
 
All accounts are level 30-31. Safely meaning walking speed, local area, no interstate or other countries, and most of all no snipping.
The ones that didnt get banned only went to Santa Monica and NYC, no other countries, and snipe heavily around NYC.

The ones that got banned were botted for 2 hrs/day
The ones that survived botted 4-5 hours daily
 
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All accounts are level 30-31. Safely meaning walking speed, local area, no interstate or other countries, and most of all no snipping.
The ones that didnt get banned only went to Santa Monica and NYC, no other countries, and snipe heavily around NYC.

The ones that got banned were botted for 2 hrs/day
The ones that survived botted 4-5 hours daily

So higher than level 30, similar to the majority of reports.

Out of curiosity, what led you to bot 2 of your accounts 4-5 hours a day across multiple cities, but the other 2 only 2 hours and in the same city. That seems oddly specificly aligned to how the ban affected you and opposite of what would should be the case based on other reports. Trying to understand what, if any, pattern there is.

Did you ever use any of the 4 accounts on your mobile phone normally?

Ever use any other bot or spoof with the accounts?
 
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Never mind. One of my two accounts were banned.
Kinda confused since they both use the same settings...For the one that was banned...I did use the bot when it was still 0.57.2 API. PF didnt ask for update and I didnt know a new API was out. That's the only difference that I can think of.
 
Wait... Bossland said they would never allow pokefarmer to run on a old API... so wtf ?
 
Wait... Bossland said they would never allow pokefarmer to run on a old API... so wtf ?

This is still the case. While it was a suspect theory for reason some were banned, in retrospect there was no forced API requirement for mobile clients during this cycle and mobile client updates were staged over a period of time before and after the API was updated for PokeFarmer so it is not a factor. In cases where there is a forced client API update, PokeFarmer will stop and not allow you to run until the necessary updates are in place.

Generation 2 updates, for example, did not happen all at once. They were slowly staged in over several updates to the official client.
 
0 bans. My 9 accounts are ok. I stopped the day they announced the update. (Keep playing with fake-GP programs). I started to use the bot yesterday with 2 low accounts.
 
I don't understand the talk about botting time limit, surely people with outside jobs bot at least 8 hours every weekday, at least niantic must assume so. Golfcourse caretakers driving around all day cutting grass, never standing still, and surely some having the bracelet that makes them keep catching and hatching during the days all days. Taxi drivers having the app on all day, also catching when having some free time, hatching eggs. Speed shouldn't matter since niantic doesn't know our lives. Time shouldn't matter unless it's on 24/7, only very high xp/day or something I must imagine is the cause...or teleporting.
 
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