Banned just came back after 2 months off time, didnt even start HB just had it open.

[nvmax]

1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account? neither didnt select it yet

2)If so, when was the last time?: 2 months ago

3)What profile were you using?: none, didnt have it selected

4)What combat class were you using? if None Just put Default then the Classname: TuanHADKSpecialEdition

5)What plugins are you using?: Default

6)How many hours per day did you bot for?: 0

6.5)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot? 100% 2 months ago when I last used it

7)How many auctions per day did you have?: 0

8)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods? BGbuddy 2 months ago

9)Was your account involved in gold selling? No

10)EU or US realm? US

11)Is the banned account a Scroll of Resurrection or an actual paid account? paid account 10 months




***Notice of Account Closure***

Account Name: WOW1

Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Unauthorized Cheat Programs ("Hacks")

This account was closed because one or more characters were identified using an unauthorized cheat program, also known as a "hack." These programs provide character benefits normally not achievable in the World of Warcraft. Such benefits include, but are not limited to, increased speed, teleportation, or running through walls/boundaries. Use of these unauthorized programs harms the game environment because they offer an unfair advantage over other players and supersede the intended limits of the game.

Even if this is the result of account sharing, the account owner can still be held responsible for the penalty because of the impact it had on the game environment.

We've found the above behavior is many times directly related to groups responsible for compromising World of Warcraft accounts; we take these issues very seriously. To better understand our position against exploitative activity and the risks involved, please review this article: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/services/anti-gold/

The exploitative activity that took place on this account violates the World of Warcraft Terms of Use. We ask you take a moment to review these terms at http://us.blizzard.com/company/legal/index.html. Note that additional Terms of Use violations may result in more severe actions against this account, up to and including permanent closure.

If you believe your account was compromised, please go to the following website https://us.battle.net/account/suppor...-recovery.html. Our support staff will assist you as soon as possible. If you are unable to access your account due to the password being changed, please visit our Login Support site here: https://us.battle.net/account/suppor...ord-reset.html

For any disputes of this action or further information on exploitive activity, please visit the Account Administration Overview and contact page here: http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/300515

Regards,

Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/




I just got back from alaska, havent played in 2 months, reactivated my account had it sitting in stormwind, loaded up Honorbuddy, had lazyraider selected, got called away for about 15 mins came back it was disconnected, tried to log back in, nope banned.. I didnt even have honorbuddy running it was just loaded ready to go... check email, got email stated above.

How the hell can I be banned for not even having it running ? thought its not detected..

 

[Vanhorne86]

1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account? neither didnt select it yet

2)If so, when was the last time?: 2 months ago

3)What profile were you using?: none, didnt have it selected

4)What combat class were you using? if None Just put Default then the Classname: TuanHADKSpecialEdition

5)What plugins are you using?: Default

6)How many hours per day did you bot for?: 0

6.5)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot? 100% 2 months ago when I last used it

7)How many auctions per day did you have?: 0

8)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods? BGbuddy 2 months ago

9)Was your account involved in gold selling? No

10)EU or US realm? US

11)Is the banned account a Scroll of Resurrection or an actual paid account? paid account 10 months




***Notice of Account Closure***

Account Name: WOW1

Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Unauthorized Cheat Programs ("Hacks")

This account was closed because one or more characters were identified using an unauthorized cheat program, also known as a "hack." These programs provide character benefits normally not achievable in the World of Warcraft. Such benefits include, but are not limited to, increased speed, teleportation, or running through walls/boundaries. Use of these unauthorized programs harms the game environment because they offer an unfair advantage over other players and supersede the intended limits of the game.

Even if this is the result of account sharing, the account owner can still be held responsible for the penalty because of the impact it had on the game environment.

We've found the above behavior is many times directly related to groups responsible for compromising World of Warcraft accounts; we take these issues very seriously. To better understand our position against exploitative activity and the risks involved, please review this article: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/services/anti-gold/

The exploitative activity that took place on this account violates the World of Warcraft Terms of Use. We ask you take a moment to review these terms at http://us.blizzard.com/company/legal/index.html. Note that additional Terms of Use violations may result in more severe actions against this account, up to and including permanent closure.

If you believe your account was compromised, please go to the following website https://us.battle.net/account/suppor...-recovery.html. Our support staff will assist you as soon as possible. If you are unable to access your account due to the password being changed, please visit our Login Support site here: https://us.battle.net/account/suppor...ord-reset.html

For any disputes of this action or further information on exploitive activity, please visit the Account Administration Overview and contact page here: http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/300515

Regards,

Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/




I just got back from alaska, havent played in 2 months, reactivated my account had it sitting in stormwind, loaded up Honorbuddy, had lazyraider selected, got called away for about 15 mins came back it was disconnected, tried to log back in, nope banned.. I didnt even have honorbuddy running it was just loaded ready to go... check email, got email stated above.

How the hell can I be banned for not even having it running ? thought its not detected..

If this person is telling the truth (Not saying you are not) then this is catagoricial evidence that HB is detectable.

 

[Dark57]

^No it is not, you are dumb. If HB was detectable then they would hit us with a ban wave, not onesies and twosies. Believe me, you would know if it is a ban wave.

 

[nvmax]

If this person is telling the truth (Not saying you are not) then this is catagoricial evidence that HB is detectable.

Im not lying, im in the process of trying to get my account back..

Though seriously timeline is accurate.

2 months non account use, activated it today, got honorbuddy downloaded, installed my routines, loaded it up.

Today is my sisters bday, so I called her and was talking to her for a bit, came back wow was disconnected, I didnt even have HB running it was just
sitting there ready to go I was going to use lazyraider to run a raid on my dk.

Well got back it was disconnected try to reconnect no go said the account was closed, I loaded up website, showed my account banned, went to email had the email in my inbox
I was like wtf how ?

So im at a loss to why or how it happened when clearly I wasnt running it.

 

[TehMorbid]

They do in fact ban you for previous violations. They just waited for you to add a subscription to ban your account. You just got troll by Blizzard man, sorry for your loss.

 

[Giwin]

They ban by delay, it is also known that they wait until you add game time I.E only bans an active account.

 

[Mysta187]

You should easily be able to get it back. Although, I do find it suspect that you were ready to raid on your DK after being gone for 2 months.

 

[Vanhorne86]

^No it is not, you are dumb. If HB was detectable then they would hit us with a ban wave, not onesies and twosies. Believe me, you would know if it is a ban wave.

So you think all the bans people are getting right now is down to player reports and people botting to much tripping blizzards auto bans?

Yea right the guy was offline 2 months.

 

[neoblack]

So you think all the bans people are getting right now is down to player reports and people botting to much tripping blizzards auto bans?

Yea right the guy was offline 2 months.

You obv have not played blizzards games before WoW thay ban in waves ya thay will hit ppl here and there but if HB was being seen by warden we would be getting banned hardcore in a huge wave.........also it is known that thay will not ban a unactive account sorry for ur luck bud keep trying to get it back or get a refund on the time

 

[Vanhorne86]

You obv have not played blizzards games before WoW thay ban in waves ya thay will hit ppl here and there but if HB was being seen by warden we would be getting banned hardcore in a huge wave.........also it is known that thay will not ban a unactive account sorry for ur luck bud keep trying to get it back or get a refund on the time

Been playing for 5 years

 

[Demonspawnn]

^No it is not, you are dumb. If HB was detectable then they would hit us with a ban wave, not onesies and twosies. Believe me, you would know if it is a ban wave.

Not saying that you're wrong, or right...but think about this from a business perspective. What do most botters do when they get banned? They just buy a new account. If everyone believes "oh, it was just player reports" then no big deal, better luck next time. You buy the new account, Blizzard gets money and keeps their subscriptions high.
But what if there was a ban-wave and EVERYONE was banned? Would we buy new accounts? Nope, because we would assume that it would just be detected and banned again. Blizzard would lose out on money that would have been spent on new accounts, and their subscription numbers would drop. Also, keep in mind that an all-out ban-wave would confirm to everyone that honorbuddy is detectable. The devs would figure out how, make the changes needed, and Blizzard would have start over again trying to detect it.

Just a theory, and something to think about. How well have their prior ban-waves worked to eliminate botters from the game?

 

[Vanhorne86]

Id be inclined to agree demonspawnn but further to what you said it may not be an appropriate time for a banwave right now. It may also be plausable it is better to wait for certain times of the quarter so it doesnt affect their invester reports (We are at the end of march remember)

 

[Demonspawnn]

That's a good point. It would be interesting to know the dates of all the ban-waves they have done in the past.
I'm not saying that I think Honorbuddy IS detected, but it is a possibility. "If it was detected we would all be banned" isn't a good enough defense, especially if you really think about it.

I will say though, most of my bans used to be "exploitation of economy" bans which are usually easy to reverse. In the past two months, every single one of my bans have been "unapproved third party programs", which I have never been able to get reversed.

 

[Vanhorne86]

That's a good point. It would be interesting to know the dates of all the ban-waves they have done in the past.
I'm not saying that I think Honorbuddy IS detected, but it is a possibility. "If it was detected we would all be banned" isn't a good enough defense, especially if you really think about it.

I will say though, most of my bans used to be "exploitation of economy" bans which are usually easy to reverse. In the past two months, every single one of my bans have been "unapproved third party programs", which I have never been able to get reversed.

Ditto they all used to be exploit and now all hacks and 3rd party

 

[Vanhorne86]

Seems there was a mini wave on US accounts in the early hoursof this morning.

 

[ArfDogUser]

Not saying that you're wrong, or right...but think about this from a business perspective. What do most botters do when they get banned? They just buy a new account. If everyone believes "oh, it was just player reports" then no big deal, better luck next time. You buy the new account, Blizzard gets money and keeps their subscriptions high.
But what if there was a ban-wave and EVERYONE was banned? Would we buy new accounts? Nope, because we would assume that it would just be detected and banned again. Blizzard would lose out on money that would have been spent on new accounts, and their subscription numbers would drop. Also, keep in mind that an all-out ban-wave would confirm to everyone that honorbuddy is detectable. The devs would figure out how, make the changes needed, and Blizzard would have start over again trying to detect it.

Just a theory, and something to think about. How well have their prior ban-waves worked to eliminate botters from the game?

if there is an incremental ban effort underway with a goal of maximizing new box sale revenue in the process, it would also make sense to use long-established accounts on botting forums to be obnoxious and say 'there is no ban wave' every time someone tries to offer a correlation between increased ban reports and possible detection/action changes at blizzard. There have been posters on this forum the last several weeks who certainly meet the 'obnoxiously post in every thread that there is no banwave.'

I would not be surprised if bot and goldseller replacement accounts were well over half of new box sales.

 

[phreak123]

if there is an incremental ban effort underway with a goal of maximizing new box sale revenue in the process, it would also make sense to use long-established accounts on botting forums to be obnoxious and say 'there is no ban wave' every time someone tries to offer a correlation between increased ban reports and possible detection/action changes at blizzard. There have been posters on this forum the last several weeks who certainly meet the 'obnoxiously post in every thread that there is no banwave.'

I would not be surprised if bot and goldseller replacement accounts were well over half of new box sales.

Not a bad theory at all, just ban everyone once, most of them will be willing to pay for the game again, especially gold sellers. Easy way for Blizz to make double revenue off of botters, and something I would consider as well if I was in Blizz's place. Anyways, I decided to cancel my 5 subs and take a hiatus until the ban wave settles down. Back to Eve (though legimately, not botting that game, heh).

 

[Mysta187]

LOL. It is absolutely a bad theory. Even if there were 20 new bans a day (there aren't), that would be such a small amount of revenue for blizzard to play financial games with. "Maximizing new box sales", what a load. Some of you are just hyper-sensitive because the phrase "ban-wave" keeps getting tossed around all willy-nilly. Sorta like sitting in a hospital waiting room and thinking the whole world must be sick because so many people are in there. Each new report in this forum becomes evidence supporting your "ban-wave" theory. Blizzard automates nearly everything. Bans included. So now you're saying this system is "randomly picking a small amount of people using some kind of database script". Smh.

 

[Demonspawnn]

I didn't say that I definitely believe this theory, it's just a theory. One that is definitely possible, but unproven. Blizzard HAS to know by now that they will never completely remove bots from the game. The have to manage it though, so they ban accounts here and there. Whether it be player reports, detection of the bot, or some way of recognizing patters, they do it. You can say "no, that is NOT how they do it" all you want, but the truth is none of us really know and the ones that do aren't about to tell us. The theory we were talking about above may be unlikely, but it IS a possibility and certainly makes sense from a business point-of-view.

Also, you think that there aren't 20 new bans a day? There are probably many times that number of bans every day. For one, not everyone that uses Honorbuddy uses the forums. Out of all those that do, not everyone report their bans. I don't understand the hostility some people have when it comes to bans on these forums. You, nor I, have any concrete information about how Blizzard does things. It is all speculation, but thinking about what they MIGHT be doing can help us.

 

[Obliv]

In the past whenever Blizzard was able to detect a bot they have done a ban wave. With them losing subscriptions, I would be shocked to see a true ban wave unless they're damn near 100% positive that it won't take out accounts due to false alarm. IMHO: Right now it looks like they've found a way to identify certain botting behaviors, but they definitely don't trust it to be fool proof at this point.