Arelog 4 demonbuddy: Time to step it up in light of the AH bans?

[KiLLian]

Make DB more human: Time to step it up in light of the AH bans?

Since the AH banwave shows blizz bans based on bot-like behavior (even when not detecting the bot/script itself) and lots of people are running sark/core/whatever 24/7 i think its time to step up Arelog (or a plugin that logs off after X hours, takes a break (x hours or minutes) and then logs back on and continue botting and adds some randomness to the bot. (that would be the base minimum, more features like switching profiles etc should be added).

Why is this important? To protect the demonbuddy customers. Demonbuddy is marketed as "not detectable" and i don't think it is detectable but the behavior itself IS detectable.
So if you get banned for your botting behavior with demon buddy or you get banned coz blizz detected the bot demonbuddy, the result is the same either way: you get banned.

I think the demonbuddy team is covering the "not detectable bot" thing very well BUT we are missing a layer of protection on the "bot-like behavior" front.
(like arelog or something similar. Something that makes the bot seem less like a bot (idea's = adding randomness to the demonbuddy's path, relogger, farming sarko, then killing some monsters in act 2 then go back to sark, etc)

Also i'll adress 2 forms of replies i'll probably get:

1= Wtfhaxkbai: Dont bot sarko/whatever 24/7
Well i don't want to bot him 24/7, i want arelog or a plugin that automaticly logs off after X time (or even better, randomly after x time) and then logs back on (im pretty sure botting for 12h straight (like during the day) and turning off the bot during the night is as detectable as botting 24/7.

2= Its not the demonbuddyteams job to provide that extra level of protection
Well i think it is. If you get banned coz blizz detected the bot or you get banned coz blizz detected bot like behavior the result is the same. This isn't WoW and blizz is much more focussed on banning bot like behavior. I think, hope and expect protection against this. This should be a priority next to demonbuddy development. When (not if) blizz's banwave of goldfarming hits people here will QQ like hell and telling them "well, you shouldn't have botted sark 24/7, its your own fault" won't go over well if we (demonbuddy team and the community) can prevent this as much as possible by making a plugin/program.

PS: a request for a plugin like this was posted days ago: http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...ofiles/57994-plugin-request-auto-breaker.html. Thread seems dead.

 

[KiLLian]

changed threadtitle for a broader discussion, its bigger than arelog.

 

[ale56man]

ok im with you on this...maybe take long...but feel good to know you can bot with most security.

+1

 

[XoT]

It is only a question of time before all the sark botters get banned. Me Included.
So yes this is a very important topic to talk about.

In my oppinion there are three partys with responability. Firstly us (the users), we will always have a responsability to bot in a sensible way. Unfortunately the current profiles doesn't support what I would call a overnightable random routine. That brings up the second part in this, the scripters that make these profiles, somewhere along this process the human-like functions will be standard, but until then the scripters should try to bring in some rnd elements into the scripts so it doesn't click the exact same place and do every move in the exact same time every time. Thirdly we have the BuddyTeam who are the only ones actually responsible to someone else then themselfes, that is to the players who pay for this bot.

Suggestions for improvements:
Autopause function that can be personalized and set in settings of DB. (BuddyTeam)
Easy setup of several profiles lined up in selectable/rnd order. (BuddyTeam)
More dynamic movements with several different ways to achieve the same result, also applies to different activities than just movement. (Scripters/BuddyTeam)
More responsible botting. No matter if the above is valid or not, you can always play safer just by being a bit smart when botting yourself. (Users)

I've been botting since 2000 in every single game I've played and most of the time it is enough to be reasonable and not to greedy to be able to live through the banwaves.

 

[DTrick]

I dont think you will have anymore problems with Sark runs i ran it for 30+mins so far only got max of 4 times its not worth to farm him now.

But yes we need more functionality for ARELOG.

 

[Soff7fan]

Although you broadened it, and went in depth with it this is also exactly what I want simply because ARelog IMHO. IS shit. And a simple relog/launch/log in on bot has been in MUCH simpler bots. I used HBrelog with WoW, and I got an awesome set up for four bots in ten minutes. With Arelog I have a broken set up with DB after at least two days of work. I haven't checked with the development of HBrelog in awhile, but I think it would be worthwhile for them to collaborate.

 

[Zaedon]

This is a great idea, but there are still core features not working correctly or missing in action all together. I don't see how trying to add one more thing on the developers plate is going to work out in the short term. Maybe you could just make your own profiles, login at different times and not bot 24/7 or 12/7 for that matter if you are scared. You are looking for a bullet proof bot. Unfortunately this magical bot doesn't exist as there is always a way to track or find bots or bot like behavior. You could always dispute a ban if you want. In most case you win if there has been no detection. Blizzard isn't stupid, they know that restoring the accounts of the few that dispute will avoid a public relations nightmare. They also know that most botters won't dispute so they get rid of several bots for a couple of days (until more are auto leveled).

 

[XoT]

I dont think you will have anymore problems with Sark runs i ran it for 30+mins so far only got max of 4 times its not worth to farm him now.

Nothing has been nerfed, you are probably retarded (or possibly 10 years old).

 

[KiLLian]

Suggestions for improvements:
Autopause function that can be personalized and set in settings of DB. (BuddyTeam)
Easy setup of several profiles lined up in selectable/rnd order. (BuddyTeam)
More dynamic movements with several different ways to achieve the same result, also applies to different activities than just movement. (Scripters/BuddyTeam)
More responsible botting. No matter if the above is valid or not, you can always play safer just by being a bit smart when botting yourself. (Users)

Good suggestions