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Anyone tried Random Heroic MoP dungeons with 5 bots?

Only viable once you get above 500 ilvl or its really slow so it takes some time commitment and patience to get your squad geared up. 515+ is ideal so run them through lfr at the beginning of the week and use your valor to purchase upgrades on 528 gear and tier pieces. Best group combo is pal tank, druid/shaman heal, mage/hunter/lock/dk dps. Basically you want one bres, one hero, and if you can manage a plate melee class for OT in case shit goes sideways it is beneficial to have a dk. It's also nice to spread your group over 5 different gear specs.

Once you have that set up and running smoothly they can net anywhere from 500 - 1500 GPH with tweaking and a few secret tricks you'll find along the way. I have 10 accounts split with 5 groups on each split who log on run their two daily dungeons for cap and log off after roughly 30 minutes. Only run 5 at a time so I can split the day in half as if the account owners are on different schedules. Net 15-20k a day across the accounts (outside of other activities) with 30 minutes played on each toon, before you go and try to calculate it out most of my characters were leveled RAF so some accounts have an imbalance of alts and have toons swapped into remixed groups where some have already been capped.
 
UsernameInvalid said:
Only viable once you get above 500 ilvl or its really slow so it takes some time commitment and patience to get your squad geared up. 515+ is ideal so run them through lfr at the beginning of the week and use your valor to purchase upgrades on 528 gear and tier pieces. Best group combo is pal tank, druid/shaman heal, mage/hunter/lock/dk dps. Basically you want one bres, one hero, and if you can manage a plate melee class for OT in case shit goes sideways it is beneficial to have a dk. It's also nice to spread your group over 5 different gear specs.

Once you have that set up and running smoothly they can net anywhere from 500 - 1500 GPH with tweaking and a few secret tricks you'll find along the way. I have 10 accounts split with 5 groups on each split who log on run their two daily dungeons for cap and log off after roughly 30 minutes. Only run 5 at a time so I can split the day in half as if the account owners are on different schedules. Net 15-20k a day across the accounts (outside of other activities) with 30 minutes played on each toon, before you go and try to calculate it out most of my characters were leveled RAF so some accounts have an imbalance of alts and have toons swapped into remixed groups where some have already been capped.
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500-1500 GPH each? If not, you'd be better off running them in their own Botanica where you can get 700-1000 GPH each. You can also do that at level 85.
 
Once you have that set up and running smoothly they can net anywhere from 500 - 1500 GPH with tweaking and a few secret tricks you'll find along the way. I have 10 accounts split with 5 groups on each split who log on run their two daily dungeons for cap and log off after roughly 30 minutes. Only run 5 at a time so I can split the day in half as if the account owners are on different schedules. Net 15-20k a day across the accounts (outside of other activities) with 30 minutes played on each toon, before you go and try to calculate it out most of my characters were leveled RAF so some accounts have an imbalance of alts and have toons swapped into remixed groups where some have already been capped.
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but botanica is a banfest
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Botanica grinders run 1-5 accounts into perma bans a week/month and net 300k-2mill in that time, Ive been averaging 150k a week for the last 5 months on the same 10 accounts and have amassed 46 lvl 90 toons across those 10 accounts all 500ilvl+. I am moving into raiding the team when WoD drops and will be selling off boe drops on the ah along with daily dungeons ( all of which cannot be seen by outside players ) Furthermore, My 20 banks are stocked to capacity to unload on the ah in a slow river of profession mats when WoD drops to compensate for the reduced GPH I have been lacking compared to Botanica grinds.

Slow and steady may not seem fun, but it covers my monthly subs and is reproducible on a large scale.
 
Both methods are viable, and a lot of the ones not covered here are also good.

I haven't been banned on botanica in over a year now (after initially being banned many times), because I have a few tricks I use that will keep me from being banned permanently running botanica or any dungeon now. It all came from thinking and thinking and thinking and trying different things, until this elusive obvious was revealed. I run 24/7 and never get banned, can you figure it out?

It depends more on WHO is botting than the method itself. By trashing any method, you simply show your lack on knowledge/expertise/experience in that method.
There are people making more by pickpocketing 24/7 using custom botbases. I know of a few. Their routine is randomized every time so they evade bans/lcp detection. Also, it's more than that. They don't stay in the same area
I know of a few who are gathering 24/7 and don't get banned. They are not the expection, they actually know what they are doing (using a certain trick you probably heard of but never tried due to the complexity of it). If you think really really hard, maybe you will find out the secret too. I am not even going to give a hint, because I am not dumb like the noobs who like to talk about all their secrets on the forums and then after a few weeks wonder 'o shit why did my method get nerfed'
But whoever is smart will figure it out by himself.

I have personally seen 700 bots go in shattered halls dungeon at once. Anything is possible. It depends on WHO is botting and their mindset/their goals/etc.
You only have a few years to live in this world, it is better from someone's mindset to go all out balls to the walls and end up with more money than the safety guy in the end.
While the other guy who wants to be safe, is perfectly happy, just being safe and making a bit of cash on the side. Which is ok for HIM.
Everyone is different and all methods work fine, depends on who is doing it.

People who are dumb even get banned doing 5 man heroics, because they don't understand certain principles and ideas about how much escalation is possible

Best botters I know do things that others constantly get banned doing, without getting banned. This way they make the most and still stay safe. (They also have backup bots ready incase their farm goes down) Just think really hard, because it might come to you.
 
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jermaine.dupree said:
Both methods are viable, and a lot of the ones not covered here are also good.

I haven't been banned on botanica in over a year now (after initially being banned many times), because I have a few tricks I use that will keep me from being banned permanently running botanica or any dungeon now. It all came from thinking and thinking and thinking and trying different things, until this elusive obvious was revealed. I run 24/7 and never get banned, can you figure it out?

It depends more on WHO is botting than the method itself. By trashing any method, you simply show your lack on knowledge/expertise/experience in that method.
There are people making more by pickpocketing 24/7 using custom botbases. I know of a few. Their routine is randomized every time so they evade bans/lcp detection. Also, it's more than that. They don't stay in the same area
I know of a few who are gathering 24/7 and don't get banned. They are not the expection, they actually know what they are doing (using a certain trick you probably heard of but never tried due to the complexity of it). If you think really really hard, maybe you will find out the secret too. I am not even going to give a hint, because I am not dumb like the noobs who like to talk about all their secrets on the forums and then after a few weeks wonder 'o shit why did my method get nerfed'
But whoever is smart will figure it out by himself.

I have personally seen 700 bots go in shattered halls dungeon at once. Anything is possible. It depends on WHO is botting and their mindset/their goals/etc.
You only have a few years to live in this world, it is better from someone's mindset to go all out balls to the walls and end up with more money than the safety guy in the end.
While the other guy who wants to be safe, is perfectly happy, just being safe and making a bit of cash on the side. Which is ok for HIM.
Everyone is different and all methods work fine, depends on who is doing it.

People who are dumb even get banned doing 5 man heroics, because they don't understand certain principles and ideas about how much escalation is possible

Best botters I know do things that others constantly get banned doing, without getting banned. This way they make the most and still stay safe. (They also have backup bots ready incase their farm goes down) Just think really hard, because it might come to you.
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So many words to state the obvious, got tired reading halfway through.
 
happyfriet said:
So many words to state the obvious, got tired reading halfway through.
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You always get tired, because your brain is under powered and your posts hold no value.

One more thing:
All the fools that keep mentioning 'haha im not getting banned lol running 5 mans' will eventually make it 100% banable (for the masses) because all blizzard has to do is scan 5 man teams doing instances from same ip/hardware id/wow client/mac/etc and then check for macros. If no macros exist, those 5 should be insta banned because no one can control 5 toons without using macros. This should result in a 100% perma ban with 0 chance of being unbanned (if blizzard is smart) because it is proof that the person was botting. It is that simple. Why hasn't it happened yet? Because no one talked about it enough and blizzard is unaware of it atm.
 
jermaine.dupree said:
One more thing:
All the fools that keep mentioning 'haha im not getting banned lol running 5 mans' will eventually make it 100% banable (for the masses) because all blizzard has to do is scan 5 man teams doing instances from same ip/hardware id/wow client/mac/etc and then check for macros. If no macros exist, those 5 should be insta banned because no one can control 5 toons without using macros. This should result in a 100% perma ban with 0 chance of being unbanned (if blizzard is smart) because it is proof that the person was botting. It is that simple. Why hasn't it happened yet? Because no one talked about it enough and blizzard is unaware of it atm.
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Perpetuating that Blizzard uses IP to ban accounts shows your ignorance. Stating that They can access your MAC illustrates your lack of knowledge as that is a LAN characteristic and not an IP broadcasted one. I can have one 24gb downloaded location of wow and access it over LAN if all my families computers have LAN privileges to access it. I have taught my family to play with click to move rather than using WASD as it means they can use spell macros more efficiently.

Your condescending tone and non constructive posts are not needed here, and are the exact reason why new users have such a difficult time finding relevant information on these forums.
 
jermaine.dupree said:
You always get tired, because your brain is under powered and your posts hold no value.

One more thing:
All the fools that keep mentioning 'haha im not getting banned lol running 5 mans' will eventually make it 100% banable (for the masses) because all blizzard has to do is scan 5 man teams doing instances from same ip/hardware id/wow client/mac/etc and then check for macros. If no macros exist, those 5 should be insta banned because no one can control 5 toons without using macros. This should result in a 100% perma ban with 0 chance of being unbanned (if blizzard is smart) because it is proof that the person was botting. It is that simple. Why hasn't it happened yet? Because no one talked about it enough and blizzard is unaware of it atm.
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Oho, we got ourselfs a bad boy here. It's like having another rogue demon all over again. :D
 
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To get back on topic a bit. I would discourage you from using a pala tank. instead opt for dk or druid or monk. they can tank in fully dps gear while tank specced and do absurd amounts of damage consider druid monk or disc priest as heal. dps wise an arms warri is a great choice imho.
 
jermaine.dupree said:
Both methods are viable, and a lot of the ones not covered here are also good.

I haven't been banned on botanica in over a year now (after initially being banned many times), because I have a few tricks I use that will keep me from being banned permanently running botanica or any dungeon now. It all came from thinking and thinking and thinking and trying different things, until this elusive obvious was revealed. I run 24/7 and never get banned, can you figure it out?

It depends more on WHO is botting than the method itself. By trashing any method, you simply show your lack on knowledge/expertise/experience in that method.
There are people making more by pickpocketing 24/7 using custom botbases. I know of a few. Their routine is randomized every time so they evade bans/lcp detection. Also, it's more than that. They don't stay in the same area
I know of a few who are gathering 24/7 and don't get banned. They are not the expection, they actually know what they are doing (using a certain trick you probably heard of but never tried due to the complexity of it). If you think really really hard, maybe you will find out the secret too. I am not even going to give a hint, because I am not dumb like the noobs who like to talk about all their secrets on the forums and then after a few weeks wonder 'o shit why did my method get nerfed'
But whoever is smart will figure it out by himself.

I have personally seen 700 bots go in shattered halls dungeon at once. Anything is possible. It depends on WHO is botting and their mindset/their goals/etc.
You only have a few years to live in this world, it is better from someone's mindset to go all out balls to the walls and end up with more money than the safety guy in the end.
While the other guy who wants to be safe, is perfectly happy, just being safe and making a bit of cash on the side. Which is ok for HIM.
Everyone is different and all methods work fine, depends on who is doing it.

People who are dumb even get banned doing 5 man heroics, because they don't understand certain principles and ideas about how much escalation is possible

Best botters I know do things that others constantly get banned doing, without getting banned. This way they make the most and still stay safe. (They also have backup bots ready incase their farm goes down) Just think really hard, because it might come to you.
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What is this magic you are talking about?
 
b4ldur said:
To get back on topic a bit. I would discourage you from using a pala tank. instead opt for dk or druid or monk. they can tank in fully dps gear while tank specced and do absurd amounts of damage consider druid monk or disc priest as heal. dps wise an arms warri is a great choice imho.
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Agreed re: DK dps as tank. A lot of times my healer is useless because my blood dk in dps gear is staying at full health on his own in heroics.

My team at the moment:
Tank - Blood DK in DPS gear
Healer - Resto druid
DPS - 2 Hunters, 1 mage

All are geared above ilvl 500 so loot tables don't matter if you are willing to put in the effort to get 528 LFR gear.
 
Saik said:
Agreed re: DK dps as tank. A lot of times my healer is useless because my blood dk in dps gear is staying at full health on his own in heroics.

My team at the moment:
Tank - Blood DK in DPS gear
Healer - Resto druid
DPS - 2 Hunters, 1 mage

All are geared above ilvl 500 so loot tables don't matter if you are willing to put in the effort to get 528 LFR gear.
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You need to get one of each (plate, mail, leather, cloth) in order to loot the dungeons?
 
On MOP heroics, I started running them as soon as I got the equip to do so. Spent JP on pvp equip at Nuzzo and then when that ran out traded JP for honor, then buy 522 pvp pieces. As soon as you reach 7250 honor you can buy 522 weapons which makes you better in heroics. Supplement with 553 peices, you can buy pants and belt for about 7-10K on my server.

I have worked with 5 DK's and no healer, it doesnt do well yet. I usually include a healer with them and they rock. Tank, healer, 3 DPS. Using that lineup you will have little problem. Make sure the squishies or semi-squishies have good ranged attack. I tried with tank, healer and 3 rogues and it wipes more than Windex. My preffered tank is a pally as he can do double duty as a healer in other lineups.

One question where is the 528 gear? Is it rep dependent?
 
jermaine.dupree said:
You always get tired, because your brain is under powered and your posts hold no value.

One more thing:
All the fools that keep mentioning 'haha im not getting banned lol running 5 mans' will eventually make it 100% banable (for the masses) because all blizzard has to do is scan 5 man teams doing instances from same ip/hardware id/wow client/mac/etc and then check for macros. If no macros exist, those 5 should be insta banned because no one can control 5 toons without using macros. This should result in a 100% perma ban with 0 chance of being unbanned (if blizzard is smart) because it is proof that the person was botting. It is that simple. Why hasn't it happened yet? Because no one talked about it enough and blizzard is unaware of it atm.
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Yes, because there is no families that plays from the same ip and lan parties is a myth so ofcourse there could never be a group that plays from the same ip, that would be silly.
 
UsernameInvalid said:
Perpetuating that Blizzard uses IP to ban accounts shows your ignorance.
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not sure if they do, but they can if they want to ...

UsernameInvalid said:
Stating that They can access your MAC illustrates your lack of knowledge as that is a LAN characteristic and not an IP broadcasted one.
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Blizzard definitely can get MAC of your computer and first active device (router for example) after it, nobody can know if they do, but they can, and if i was working at blizzard i would use that
 
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